Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

[Gottseidank]

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Exactly notthatthis That was THE betrayal and I wouldn't keep that family secret either. The family going to the papers about Harry to detract from their own drama was THE betrayal. No doubt in my mind.

These claims have been dissected on past threads by posters more knowledgeable than me and the conclusions were quite the opposite. That he was not fed to the wolves but protected. BP concocted a story of Harry being a laid back, happy chappy, minimised his scrapes and deflected where possible. This is all too evident now that PH is no longer protected by the palace and isn’t heeding advice from anywhere.

Ah.. so which untrue stories?

Unfortunately for Harold and Megs, most of the unflattering stories published about them turned out to be true.

@Gottseidank charles just needs to find his balls and remove, once and for all, the titles and the dukedom! Titles include the "prince" title as well as duke and duchess!! they do not deserve them and have thrown absolutely everything back into the face of the King!! meghan, especially, is a nasty individual!! She now wants to be called Ma'am!!! she seriously thinks she is the queen! Harry will never be allowed to become an american citizen by meghan because she could not tolerate losing her title (which she is not even supposed to be using) of Duchess!! the sooner william is king, the better. I think he will sort them out for good!

I actually wonder if William is suffering mental health challenges if his own. My feeling is he really struggles with the public role and doesn’t enjoy it at all. I think he has to force himself to do it and it’s taking a toll what with all Harry’s capers. He has effectively lost his brother , and his father may be more ill than we realise. There is clearly something up with Kate. What we see on the surface is not the whole story.

The advert for Housekeeper was when they lived in KP.
They have scaled down their household at Adelaide, but clearly they need someone to shop for them and organise things to a certain degree. I suspect they prefer to keep their lives as private as possible, but there are limits.

Agree Charles needs to show some mettle, but I suspect he doesn’t want to poke the bear. Harry is on a hair-trigger. He’s unstable and not rational. Runs to the Press with every perceived sleight. It’s damage limitation.

Suspect Charles is actually showing some mettle behind the scenes.

Harry and Megan are clearly leaking like a sieve right now, trying to boost their credentials by leaking he offered to come back, and now the nonsense he was going to go to Clarence House, but the palace aides blocked him, (forgetting we all know he was presenting an award the next night and flew straight to that and then onto invictus)

they simply haven’t stopped with their nonsense. Just taking a different tack of now blatantly using the royal family to bolster themselves, whilst still leaking utter shite.

for them all publicity is good publicity. It keeps them current. Sadly they have used Charles’s illness as an opportunity for some publicity and likely tried to use it to get back in.

its nauseating, but I guess they are desperate. Plus let’s face it, neither of them have the sense they were born with and are totally out of their depth.

Yes.

Yes agree with this

100% It's a shame it's been turned upside down to try and fit the agenda or support one over the other.
The way they were treated was awful. If that was me I also wouldn't be quiet. I am surprised they said very little in that book. People would have loved to hear all the detail!

Given Charles' current health crisis, one that may see him having to abdicate in favour of his next in line PW, Charles is undoubtedly taking on the opinions of PW who'll be saying "No way can we have PH back, he's flakey and untrustworthy".

Speculation on my part, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility in the current crisis, not least in light of the additional revelation about Charles' "appalling memory".

Maybe those who think he was so brave already being a multi millionaire from a international known family could enlighten Harry of the consequences of selling stories to the highest bidder repeatedly that it doesn’t matter that you love them or that you want to reunify you’re as trustworthy as a Sun reporter. There were non royal people victimised in spare what was their crime..

The thought that Harry could just swan over and "stand in" for his Pa is risible.

He's flippin' clueless in the extreme. He's better off in California, damage limitation!

Well if PH wants to reconcile with his dad, good for them. While he is at it, he should try and reconcile with his FIL too. You know, illness bringing everyone together and all that.

However Charles really should grow a pair regarding sticking to the agreed half in half out agreement. I've a feeling PH would like his dear old dad to reverse that particular decision and soon.

What does this mean, that the story originated from BP?

And the "oiling" referred to Charles running to and fro from the gulf - trips which vastly outnumbered those to the Commonwealth they're supposed to head - and doubtless the flogging of the knightood to the Saudi Mahfooz will have helped fill the coffers

Blame the Foreign Office for that, not Charles. All their official travel is at the behest of the Government, and in line with the government’s priorities, not their own.

It means the Times journalist was given the seeds of a story from someone, wrote it up and then approached the official press office of both sides for an on the record comment, which both declined. One side may have been being disingenuous in that, but it’s impossible to tell which from their on the record statements. Despite what some posters assert.

There were non royal people victimised in spare what was their crime.

Well, quite. The Royal Family owe a duty of care to their staff, who presumably don’t fancy working for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex who have a track record of slagging Palace employees off for their personalities and the actions they do as part of their job, and tell everyone that staff who left because they were allegedly bullied are incompetent or dishonest.

I wonder if H ever really considered the full implications of his actions.

He clearly didn't. Either that or he thought he could have his vicious and highly personal say for a $20 million payday and that afterwards his family would pat him on the back and say 'There, there Harry, do you feel better now you've got that off your chest?'. The awful things he said about his DF, stepmother, DB and SIL all forgiven and forgotten in their hurry to usher him back into the fold.

Maybe in therapy-land that kind of behaviour is seen as healing and a way to 'move on' from the perceived hurts of the past. Meanwhile, back in reality saying hurtful and highly damaging things about people you profess to love, for money no less, is seen as treacherous and unforgivable.

I don't think for a moment that Harry thought it would come to this - that his interactions with his family would now be highly restricted and carefully controlled and that he wouldn't even have a home to call his own in the country of his birth, one that his father now rules.

I do wonder if therapy is partly to blame. He's got used to someone validating all his feelings and spewing out all his bile constantly to an attentive audience. Sometimes that leads people who are isolated from friends and more objective family members to just lose sight of reality. It has happened in our family and the family member has cut themselves off from the family . There is a lot of self righteous talk about not being 'shamed' etc, as a justification for just not taking any responsibility at all.

Speculation on my part, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility in the current crisis, not least in light of the additional revelation about Charles' "appalling memory"

HM is under an appalling amount of stress right now, which might account for it. Having waited for the job for 70 years, I doubt abdication is on his mind after less than two years - or at all, given how much time he spent with QEQM and HER views on the subject.

There's some assumption he wants to go back. I don't think so. I watched that interview. He was bringing questions back to his own family.
After Harry was betrayed (and he was betrayed) he called the whole thing out. Blew the fuckin bridge up so to speak and he knew as much.
The fall out might not be easy and he loves his dad I'm sure. But it's over.

Which stories did the RF give to the Press about H&M that were untrue?

Which untrue stories about H&M did the RF deliberately leak to the Press?

The Times said "The Duke of Sussex was approached for comment", then "Buckingham Palace declined to comment".

The Sussex camp spoke to them, the Palace didn't. They would have said both declined if neither spoke to them.

That's how you know who talks to them. And it clearly wsnt the Palace.