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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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LipstickLil · 18/02/2024 09:40

@Devastatedandblindsided I agree with you. William wasn't eager to embrace royal duties and lived a private life for as long as he possibly could. I suspect that whatever is wrong with Kate is serious too. We were told it was 'routine abdominal surgery', but two weeks in hospital and 3-4 months of recovery is a very long time for an otherwise (we assume) healthy 41-year-old woman. I suspect he's very worried about her and trying not to frighten their DC.

And now his dad's got cancer. We've been told it's been caught early and the prognosis is good, but the fact remains that just 18 months into his father's reign and at a time when his wife is seriously unwell William is bearing the burden of public expectation. It would be a lot for anyone. I feel for him.

ToffeeTalk · 18/02/2024 09:58

two weeks in hospital and 3-4 months of recovery is a very long time for an otherwise (we assume) healthy 41-year-old woman

I don't see that it's possible to infer that Kate is 'seriously unwell'. It's been widely reported for years that she just wants to be a SAHM and not do an outside of the home job. She has the luxury of being able to do as little as she likes. It's much less dramatic to infer that Kate is in no hurry whatsoever to return to royal 'work'. And much easier to justify time at home if there's a news blackout on what exactly is wrong - not that anyone has any right to know what the issue actually is. If reports are correct that the family has decamped to their holiday house in Norfolk for half term then the chances are that the medical situation really isn't too grave.

StormzyinaTCup · 18/02/2024 10:02

MrsFinkelstein · 18/02/2024 09:39

The Times said "The Duke of Sussex was approached for comment", then "Buckingham Palace declined to comment".

The Sussex camp spoke to them, the Palace didn't. They would have said both declined if neither spoke to them.

That's how you know who talks to them. And it clearly wsnt the Palace.

Edited

I must say that was how I interpreted it too. It fits in with their current PR drive which is working over time at the moment in a desperate attempt to keep the wheels from falling off the Sussex bus.

LipstickLil · 18/02/2024 10:05

He's got used to someone validating all his feelings and spewing out all his bile constantly to an attentive audience.

Yeah, I think therapy is to blame for a lot! He's also got a wife who seems to encourage his feelings of anger, alienation and victim-hood. I don't like to blame Meghan for things that Harry has said or done, but the change in him since he met her is huge.

Prydddan · 18/02/2024 10:10

So which party, do we think, leaked the most recent story about Harry being kept at arm's length by The Palace when he wanted a heart-to-heart with his dad? That story (in The Sun - I read it so you all didn't have to) also includes the "Buckingham Palace declined to comment" thing at the end. But I can't see how the story benefits the Sussex camp, and the tone ("they'd never get rid of him", "get a hotel") is quite scathing.

IndieNo · 18/02/2024 10:12

I’m sure Camilla leaks but the best way not to antagonise her is not to slag her off in a book.

IndieNo · 18/02/2024 10:13

Anyway. How can he be at Sandringham and also present the NFL award? He isn’t Harry Potter and he doesn’t have a portkey.

Vespanest · 18/02/2024 10:20

Most leaks are often exaggerated, misinterpreted or completely made up. The leak of Harry coming back for duties could’ve have been as simple as “Harry is here for his father/family”. The leak about the hotel, he spent the night at the hotel, they can say what they want. Then there is the sources, people like Lady C or Omid, not holding my breath. Most of the current leaks don’t seem to benefit either side so I’m slightly sceptical of them being planted leaks.

Maireas · 18/02/2024 10:25

IndieNo · 18/02/2024 10:12

I’m sure Camilla leaks but the best way not to antagonise her is not to slag her off in a book.

You have no evidence that she leaks anything.
Harry is not a reliable source.

IndieNo · 18/02/2024 10:28

Maireas · 18/02/2024 10:25

You have no evidence that she leaks anything.
Harry is not a reliable source.

We have no evidence that she doesn’t.

EdithWeston · 18/02/2024 10:30

IwishIcouldfinishabook · 17/02/2024 08:08

Surely if they needed someone to ' help out' William would be doing more? He's hardly overwhelmed with state duties as far as I can see. Harry won't be coming back, because his children are in the US.

Point of very nerdy detail

Only the monarch carries out state duties, and Charles is continuing to do those (it's mainly signing stuff). They have not needed to use any Counsellors of State at any point.

So of course William is "not overwhelmed" by state duties. Neither he nor anyone other than Charles has any.

He appears to have taken a half-term break. Last official duties (IIRC) were investitures last week. Plus charity/representational appearance.

I know he now has a Duchy to run (or ensure is well run) but I would hope to see him in public more often. His prioritising his family is in itself admirable, but sometimes leads to faux pas, and this protracted absence might be one of them (not supporting the Lionesses in person in his role as President of the FA, at a once-in-60-years event, being a particular nadir)

Inkanta · 18/02/2024 10:30

Harry described his experience of leaks as "institutional gaslighting" Deceptions, untruths and twisting of the truths. It will be still going on I'm sure because that's the climate he blew the whistle on.

StormzyinaTCup · 18/02/2024 10:33

Inkanta · 18/02/2024 10:30

Harry described his experience of leaks as "institutional gaslighting" Deceptions, untruths and twisting of the truths. It will be still going on I'm sure because that's the climate he blew the whistle on.

He is doing plenty of his own gaslighting.
I'm not sure if he fully understands the term.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/02/2024 10:35

What Harry says happened and what did actually happen are not necessarily the same thing.

Ethelswith · 18/02/2024 10:39

ToffeeTalk · 18/02/2024 09:58

two weeks in hospital and 3-4 months of recovery is a very long time for an otherwise (we assume) healthy 41-year-old woman

I don't see that it's possible to infer that Kate is 'seriously unwell'. It's been widely reported for years that she just wants to be a SAHM and not do an outside of the home job. She has the luxury of being able to do as little as she likes. It's much less dramatic to infer that Kate is in no hurry whatsoever to return to royal 'work'. And much easier to justify time at home if there's a news blackout on what exactly is wrong - not that anyone has any right to know what the issue actually is. If reports are correct that the family has decamped to their holiday house in Norfolk for half term then the chances are that the medical situation really isn't too grave.

Edited

If you have doctors in the family, they will easily come up with procedures that take c.10 days in hospital and up to c.3 months recovery, and the same couple will head the list of obvious possible procedures.

It might not be that common (in the sense of number of cases a year) but it is in the sense that it's something that crops up and can be successfully treated.

Maireas · 18/02/2024 10:43

IndieNo · 18/02/2024 10:28

We have no evidence that she doesn’t.

Then don't claim that she definitely did.
Harry had his phone hacked. Maybe he should blame those tabloids rather than her.

LipstickLil · 18/02/2024 10:58

If you have doctors in the family, they will easily come up with procedures that take c.10 days in hospital and up to c.3 months recovery, and the same couple will head the list of obvious possible procedures.

I do have a doctor in my family and we were talking about it last weekend and came up with a possible surgery/recovery that would fit the timeline. The recovery from major abdominal surgery is rough though and it's likely she's been in a lot of pain and unable to contribute much to the household. Yes, they have a nanny and I'm sure a housekeeper as well, but all of us who are mothers know that if we were to be largely out of action for a few months that would place a huge strain on the household. To say nothing of that happening at the same time as FIL's cancer diagnosis.

Princessfluffy · 18/02/2024 11:11

I think Harry needs to be removed from the line of succession as he is dangerously close to the top such that it's really not inconceivable (and god forbid) that he could become King.

Although is Andrew the next in line after Harry?

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 18/02/2024 11:15

Princessfluffy · 18/02/2024 11:11

I think Harry needs to be removed from the line of succession as he is dangerously close to the top such that it's really not inconceivable (and god forbid) that he could become King.

Although is Andrew the next in line after Harry?

It would take William and all three Wales children to be wiped out for Harry to become king. Given they’ll no longer be travelling together there’s the tiniest chance of Harry becoming king.

Archie and Lilibet are after Harry. Then Andrew.

Vespanest · 18/02/2024 11:17

How could Harry take up the monarchy it would mean lilibet as a spare, one of the hardest inflictions known to man.

Mylovelygreendress · 18/02/2024 11:18

I have a question for the H and M supporters who have been vocal about how brave/ right they were to “ flee” the RF .
If - and it’s a huge if- there is any truth in the rumour that H wants back in the royal fold , how would then view your brave warrior ? After all he has stated how awful it was , how toxic the family is , his horrible SM , his archenemies DB , his unwelcoming SIL. And how he and his DW was hounded out .
Will you feel let down that he - allegedly- wants to return ?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/02/2024 11:26

Mylovelygreendress · 18/02/2024 11:18

I have a question for the H and M supporters who have been vocal about how brave/ right they were to “ flee” the RF .
If - and it’s a huge if- there is any truth in the rumour that H wants back in the royal fold , how would then view your brave warrior ? After all he has stated how awful it was , how toxic the family is , his horrible SM , his archenemies DB , his unwelcoming SIL. And how he and his DW was hounded out .
Will you feel let down that he - allegedly- wants to return ?

I'm sure it's got nothing to do with the rumour (according to the evil Mail) that their contract with Netflix looks likely to be broken this year. It's rather instructive how the DM positioned this - usually they write an article about XYor Z then pages on there's a snippet about XY or Z that relies on readers making the connection. In this Saturday's they had the article about 'Harry offers olive branch' then right over the page a double page spread on the Netflix contract and what the Sussexes might do next for money. So if nothing else the DM clearly thinks the olive branch offer is financially motivated.

Apologies for reading the Mail and spreading its filthy rumours. I'll repent and try to be a good person from now on, I promise.

Mylovelygreendress · 18/02/2024 11:31

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain i am even worse than you as I bought the Mail, sorry Fail . I like the TV magazine on a Saturday.
Shoot me now .

Samcro · 18/02/2024 11:31

i really think all this stuff is just there so no one looks at where William is.
I Very much doubt Harry wants to come back, but no doubt he will want to support his dad. its so annoying to see all this being made in to such a big thing.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/02/2024 11:32

Mylovelygreendress · 18/02/2024 11:31

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain i am even worse than you as I bought the Mail, sorry Fail . I like the TV magazine on a Saturday.
Shoot me now .

I buy it as well (hangs head in shame).

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