Harry to give an interview to discuss Charles's illness

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I just read an article in the DM about this. I really honestly couldn't believe he would do this. I just hope it isn't true. Just how could he. Privacy????.

I think that’s the wrong way around. So many articles and tv interviews were being written and broadcast about them anyway, and so many people were making money off their backs (and continue to do so) that they decided to produce their own and try and take control of the narrative.

It hasn’t worked, largely because they underestimated the global influence of the British establishment and the UK right wing press combined, but I can understand why they tried.

No. They self promote, seek the limelight, seek publicity. Of course they do, that's their life, celebrity royals. If they didn't get clicks and coverage it would be problematic for them.
They absolutely need it.

Spot on.

I think their use of the Invictus Games to promote themselves is nauseating.

@Clawedfoot73 it hasn't worked though because they have been liars and in general just not very nice people. Of course you will get people like Oprah ( with her own agenda) and ABC ( for viewing figures) who will give them a whirl but basically their story is old and their whingeing is forever.

I disagree and was going to quote Meghan’s extremely well worded statement about pages of press articles STILL being written about them when they hadn’t actually been doing that much, but of course, it being a very well worded statement by Meghan, you Google it and you can’t find it among all the hateful, inaccurate crap written about them.

It hasn’t worked, largely because they underestimated the global influence of the British establishment and the UK right wing press combined, but I can understand why they tried.

It hasn't worked, largely because they underestimated how much work was involved and I don't think they were big on listening and taking advice.

It wasn't the U.K. right wing press that produced the South Park and Family Guy episodes and I'd be pretty certain that Bill 'f**king grifters' Simmons isn't under the influence of the British establishment.

They absolutely basked in the limelight for the Invictus games promotion. Made it all about them. Pretty bad form was the opinion of a lot of folk.

I think what they say and how they live their lives are two different things.
If they don't want publicity, fine - I'm very sympathetic to people who have been harassed, hacked and papped etc.
However - the recent Invictus pre games thing got a lot of publicity, including that interview. Of course it did, which is exactly what they wanted.
I doubt that "hysterical" describes it. What they wanted, what they got, and hardly "hysterical" I would contend.

@StormzyinaTCup - I agree. it's just so lazy and inaccurate to blame the "British press". As if it were a single entity.

@Clawedfoot73 when they hadn’t actually been doing that much

You can say that again. They're not exactly the poster people for hard work ethics, are they?!

I think they were, in essence, telling the truth from their perspective. In other words, I think they did encounter racist and reactionary attitudes from the staff at the palace. And a basic lack of interest and care from Charles and William about their role and their future at a time when there was a global pandemic and a transfer of power between the late Queen and Charles which hadn’t quite happened yet.

There was obviously a massive mis-match between MM’s world and the palace which was further exacerbated by the men in grey suits, and the fact that no one seem to care about Harry that much, and I think they have come across as if they were dissembling in some instances, because there were a lot of things they couldn’t say which were a lot worse than the things that actually happened, so they ended up hinting about them rather than exposing the full facts.

Whether they are nice people or not is a matter of opinion I suppose. I think Harry didn’t want the same thing that happened to his mother, to happen to his wife, and I applaud him for that and for putting his own young family first.

To be fair, I think the period I was referring to when Meghan published the statement, was when she was on maternity leave, or had just had her dd.

There are, and always have been, actual and enduring links between the broadly right wing English- speaking press in the US and in the UK, and to a certain extent in Australia too. The majority of the publishing and licensing agreements for articles and books cover those three areas, they don’t necessarily always distinguish between them.

I don’t watch cartoons so I can’t respond to this one!

I think MM was known for her hard work and sending e-mails at 5 am though; I don’t think she’s generally thought of as a grifter whatever that means! You have to have a good work ethic to survive life as an actress in a long running tv series I think.

‘because there were a lot of things they couldn’t say which were a lot worse than the things that actually happened, so they ended up hinting about them rather than exposing the full facts.’

such as? And you’d know how?

I didn’t watch any of the Invictus Games coverage but surely how it is handled isn’t entirely up to H & M. Presumably it’s largely up to the organisers?Now H &M are out of the RF, I don’t suppose the guidelines are as strict. And to be fair to Harry, I think he has done very good work on behalf of injured and disabled veterans.

As much as anyone else on here knows!

So it’s just made up!

Exactly. You are right. This pair never said exactly what happened, yet they were "outraged" in front of Ophrah without really going about the facts.

They chose it as just another engagement method that really undermines their case.

So much that someone had to go on national TV the following morning jsut to clarify that the offenders were not the Queen or consort 😂.

This is all beyond what really happened, because as you say, we don't know!

No. The BBC website, the Guardian, the Independent...all of which have been quoted on these threads are not part of a hive mind with one approach and one agenda. It's not a very nuanced way of looking at it.
The Guardian has been critical of them, also that quoted BBC article. Not hysterical, but critical. I would not classify either as "broadly right wing".

But why is his family out of bounds but not William’s? He still doesn’t make any sense to me. I still think he’s a knob😁

Sending emails at 5, yes that does tie in with the bullying accusations and reports of a toxic work environment

I wasn’t necessarily talking about the Guardian and the Independent though?

Many editorials are witten by the same journalists.

Katie Nicholl, for example, to name but one, writes for Vanity Fair, appears on the BBC, Sky News, CBC in Canada, appears on Entertainment Tonight in the US, and writes for the Daily Mail.

No. You put the "British press" together.
It's a bit more complicated and nuanced than a conspiracy of right wing journalists!
I read lots of different publications. They do vary.