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Harry & Meghan change their surname

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Gottseidank · 15/02/2024 11:53

… from Mountbatten-Windsor to ‘Sussex’.
Apparently it’s to strengthen their brand.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-meghan-sussex-archie-lilibet-children-name-royal-title-cnvf7d9jf

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Propertylover · 16/02/2024 08:32

@Frasers isn’t the Sir Ma’am thing because Invictus is build on a military foundation?

Lockupyourbiscuits · 16/02/2024 08:32

Harry knows he couldn’t do all the promos if his Dad had cancer and he hadn’t seen him
The visit was a perfunctory tick box
So obvious it was done to avoid bad press
He could easily have gone after Invictus but that wouldn’t have boosted PR

carbon copy of when he visited the queen as a tick box before Germany Invictus
( to check she had right people around her )

I also think Meghan laughing and taking pictures of Harry doing his seated skiing was in poor taste - it shouldn’t have been treated as a joke

Frasers · 16/02/2024 08:35

Propertylover · 16/02/2024 08:32

@Frasers isn’t the Sir Ma’am thing because Invictus is build on a military foundation?

Honestly I think it’s as they are being royal

Vespanest · 16/02/2024 08:43

I’d assume that the interview was planned before Charles ill health. Everything seems to have centred around the last two weeks for a new push, in hindsight they may have done too much. The interviewer has been there for days he’s going to want some scoops.

Maireas · 16/02/2024 08:46

Also, Harry will need to give something in return for the money/tv exposure.

themessygarden · 16/02/2024 08:54

Mylovelygreendress · 16/02/2024 08:22

Apparently the interview is for Good Morning America who have been following them around this week . Will Reeve ( presenter) has said H talks about his father’s cancer.

Charles cancer is big news around the world, even if he only says he is doing fine, its Harry again using his family for publicity, its another reason why he hopped on a plane to UK, that interview would have already been in the bag and now he can say 'when I saw my father last week.......'.

themessygarden · 16/02/2024 08:59

I also think Meghan laughing and taking pictures of Harry doing his seated skiing was in poor taste - it shouldn’t have been treated as a joke

Totally this.

How insulting to those athletes who have no choice but to use a disability aid, didn't she laughing say, 'oh I need a phot of this to show the kids'. Its mind boggling how clueless they are.

Likeateddybeard · 16/02/2024 09:02

themessygarden · 16/02/2024 08:59

I also think Meghan laughing and taking pictures of Harry doing his seated skiing was in poor taste - it shouldn’t have been treated as a joke

Totally this.

How insulting to those athletes who have no choice but to use a disability aid, didn't she laughing say, 'oh I need a phot of this to show the kids'. Its mind boggling how clueless they are.

Edited

She thinks it’s all about her as usual.

Propertylover · 16/02/2024 09:14

@Likeateddybeard @themessygarden laughing at H not being able to do it is not disrespectful. It’s a wife laughing at her husband.- this is a good example of things being picked up to fuel the debate.

WRT the interview, the website launch, using titles & names for the first time etc. are clearly part of a relaunch PR campaign timed to coincide with IG.

KC’s cancer diagnosis was unexpected and they couldn’t delay the launch. Personally if it was my Dad I would have done the trip so I can’t criticise H and no one but H knows his true motivation.

PrincessWildernessOfWherever · 16/02/2024 09:27

It's the sort of thing an interviewer will ask, of course, but to do anything other than refer people to Charles' own statements would be crass.

Vespanest · 16/02/2024 09:29

Rumour is that Charles has been edited out due to a backlash.

Serenster · 16/02/2024 09:30

Maireas · 16/02/2024 07:36

https://zaratindall.com/
Here it is - no coat of arms! It's clearly written, her achievements rightly noted, no verbosity, no wild claims.
The only honorific noted is the MBE which she was awarded.
I think a world class equestrian and Olympian is entitled to such merit.

Yes - the biography of her states:

”Zara Tindall is a renowned and accomplished British equestrian.

That’s literally it, as the bio then goes on to list just her equestrian achievements, noting as it does so that she’s returned to active competition after the birth of three children.

Other than her awards for winning in eventing, accolades are not noted at all - not even her BBC Sports Personality of the year award, which was a public vote.

And she prominently lists and shows photos of the grooms in her team too, which is nice to see.

As a compare and contrast to Sussex.com, it is indeed quite interesting.

themessygarden · 16/02/2024 09:32

@Propertylover we clearly have different boundaries, I do find it disrespectful, there is a line that I don't think should be crossed when it comes to using disabilities for a bit of fun or a laugh, and I think that crossed that line. If she hadn't found it funny, but commented on how it makes you realise how impressive it is for disabled athletes to achieve so much while using such equipment, it would have been a bit more classy and less of her looking like a jerk.

Frasers · 16/02/2024 09:45

Propertylover · 16/02/2024 09:14

@Likeateddybeard @themessygarden laughing at H not being able to do it is not disrespectful. It’s a wife laughing at her husband.- this is a good example of things being picked up to fuel the debate.

WRT the interview, the website launch, using titles & names for the first time etc. are clearly part of a relaunch PR campaign timed to coincide with IG.

KC’s cancer diagnosis was unexpected and they couldn’t delay the launch. Personally if it was my Dad I would have done the trip so I can’t criticise H and no one but H knows his true motivation.

Oh cmon now, she’s at the invictus games, laughing about her husband using a disability aid, on what planet is that acceptable.

Iwasafool · 16/02/2024 09:47

PrincessWildernessOfWherever · 15/02/2024 20:21

It is standard RF process - W&K's children are now 'Wales' not 'Cambridge'.

You know, the toxic, racist RF, who use the Commonwealth as Empire 2.0.

Thank goodness H&M are setting an example and doing things differently.

I'm confused, so it is standard RF process but thank goodness H&M are doing things differently. Can both those things be true?

MaturingCheeseball · 16/02/2024 09:53

Apparently H&M have hired a British photographer who covers the royals to be their official photographer. Crests, Sir, Ma’am… they’ll be building a castle next.

Iwasafool · 16/02/2024 10:01

I don't know anything about crests but if they are using Meghan's could it be because Harry didn't want to use his or a joint one as he agreed with his late grandmother that he wouldn't? Meghan might not have the same issue, she wasn't her grandmother and maybe Meghan never agreed not to use it. Just a thought.

I do think the Invictus games is something for Harry to be proud of. I hope he doesn't discuss his father in his interview. It's sort of one step forward and another one back.

Frasers · 16/02/2024 10:04

Iwasafool · 16/02/2024 10:01

I don't know anything about crests but if they are using Meghan's could it be because Harry didn't want to use his or a joint one as he agreed with his late grandmother that he wouldn't? Meghan might not have the same issue, she wasn't her grandmother and maybe Meghan never agreed not to use it. Just a thought.

I do think the Invictus games is something for Harry to be proud of. I hope he doesn't discuss his father in his interview. It's sort of one step forward and another one back.

Harrys really is royal and they can’t use anything royal.

so they are effectively mimicking royalty to position themselves as such to the American public.

i personally think they have moved from very popular to very contentious and disliked, to now they are moving to a pair of jokes. Where eye rolling at their antics will become common place. As In they will stop being shocking, and move to people simply no longer giving a shit what idiotic thing they do next.

PrincessWildernessOfWherever · 16/02/2024 10:15

Iwasafool · 16/02/2024 09:47

I'm confused, so it is standard RF process but thank goodness H&M are doing things differently. Can both those things be true?

Personally I don't think they can!

mrsmingleton · 16/02/2024 10:34

@Lockupyourbiscuits I have to say that is the first thing I thought too. It was a bit disrespectful - like saying "Here Harry you have a go in this wheelchair and I will take a photo".

mrsmingleton · 16/02/2024 10:42

Why would Meghan not carry her own phone? Why would she have to borrow one?

mrsmingleton · 16/02/2024 10:45

Oh its so funny and then the usual look at me for some kind of confirmation.

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caringcarer · 16/02/2024 10:56

Roussette · 16/02/2024 04:08

@caringcarer
Zara has a coat of arms with coronet etc. She is sponsored by many different companies, no doubt her royal connection helps.
Peter Phillips ditto.
Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie all have coat of arms with coronets etc. All these are non working Royals
Could you tell me why H&M should be different and not have a coat of arms?

I've never seen a coat of arms for any of those you mention. Genuine question, have you ever seen them used for commercial gain? Zara Philips gets sponsorship from Land rover but I've never seen her coronet or coat of arms being used. No problem with any of them having a coat of arms but they should not use them for commercial gain. H&M promised the late Queen Elizabeth they wouldn't do that.

Likeateddybeard · 16/02/2024 11:00

MaturingCheeseball · 16/02/2024 09:53

Apparently H&M have hired a British photographer who covers the royals to be their official photographer. Crests, Sir, Ma’am… they’ll be building a castle next.

Nauseating.

tutttutt · 16/02/2024 11:03

Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 08:02

The coat of arms on the website looks very tacky.

BTW the Mail is reporting that H intends to give a TV interview about Charles’ cancer

Dig dig dig

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