New Sussex website

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So I see there is a brand-new Duke and Duchess of Sussex website. Very glossy.

But the self-aggrandising! I just read Meghan’s bio and - cringe - it was the worst of LinkedIn. Sometimes less is more!

Looking at all the comments across social media platforms, this is starting to become damaging for the monarchy, people are seeing Charles as weak and unable to manage his son, like the queen , managed them on their exit, and protect the monarchy.

where as the royals were in the winning camp with the no comment strategy, this website is a step too far for many people. And opinion seems to be they need to now act. Folks understand it’s his son, but enough is enough,

I actually am also starting to believe that Charles is a weak father and has let Harry away with so much, and that is partially the root cause of him doing what he pleases, as he pleases, with no thought of repurcussions, and behave spitefully when he doesn’t get his own way. I suspect it goes back way further than the exit. Way back to childhood.

the issue the royals have is if they now just do nothing and say nothing, they become tarred by the brush of Harry and Megan, it looks like fear of acting, or worst case even supporting.

as much as it is an awful time for him, I think Charles needs to recognise his own son did this, he chose this time, and that his failure to act is now starting to drag the monarchy down to Harry’s level.

with Charles and Kate out of action, the royals are now reduced to Harry and Megan cashing in. And the palace looking the other way. Again.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion of course, but it contributes very little to a discussion to just shout 'haters!' or 'what about Andrew?' and it's not likely to bring anyone around to your point of view. There are some valid points being raised around the website - why leave African Parks in the bio when they've refused to comment on the incredibly serious allegations (all about empowerment for women and girls until it requires them to admit they've dropped the ball, it seems). What is the actual purpose of Archewell? Why take the impact reports down? Why did they register it in Delaware when they're based in California, something to do with the incredibly generous expenses allowance perhaps? Why are they using their titles when they have made their disdain for the royal family abundantly clear? There is plenty there to make opinions about them being attention seekers and hypocrites perfectly valid.

I check comments in the same way. Sometimes it's refreshing to read say, a glowing Editorial in The Mail on Boris, and then read thousands of comments pointing out he is a liar!

You are underestimating posters when you sneer like that. Just because many of us see the whole H and M fiasco differently from you does not mean we are being manipulated.

Totally agree

Welcome to half term 2.0!

@Mylovelygreendress the irony is that at least those who see through H&M's very thinly veiled bollocks, actually SEE both sides, that which we read across The media and that which we actually see from their PR ... and make up our minds from everything ... as opposed to hearing their lies and bollocks and ignoring it all then saying 'believe everything you read in The Mail' nonsense - eerrr no! It's called being intelligent enough to work out our own opinions

Hello to @AcrossthePond55 !!!
I've read so many of your posts on mn over the years and find them so interesting, especially the lovely snippets into your life in the US , I don't think I've ever seen you post on rf section before!
It's lovely to see you here.

Not sure that it’s Charles is weak or that he understands they need to be self sufficient and is weighing up the pros and cons. There can be no gracious returning of them into the fold, no amount of PR could spin that as anything other than failure. The only win for Charles is that they are moderately successful, enough so he is not blamed for failing his son but not too successful that the next generation follow suit. Unfortunately I don’t think this is going to be the commercial success they need, realistically they need a few hundred million banked to live the life they are living and I can see the palace just waiting and watching.

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Well all the other royals are also poster men and women for ultimate white privilege post colonialism elitism...don't you agree? There have bene examples of other royals wearing symbols that were offensive and getting away with it. Surely you also agree that's white privilege in action.....or do you only apply this to harry

@Spectre8 ... but this is an H&M thread ffs 🤦🏼‍♀️

I agree with this.

I think people are wanting the RF to act as their proxy by doing something to demonstrate to the Sussexes that they taking a hardline with them. But I don’t think that’s at all likely.

Partly because it would achieve nothing in practical terms - it would really only give the Sussexes something concrete to latch into to further their victim narrative. The Royal family will not want to start legal proceedings against a family member, so anything court-based is a non-starter. And to be frank, they are better off playing the long game.

It’s been four years since the Sussexes chose to leave and earn an independent income. They have had wins and losses in that time, but the new rebrand suggests that Archewell has not been the success they were hoping for. So they will have to stand or fall on the success of their rebrand. I am sure the Royal Family’s advisers think it would be better for them to become financially sustainable without being able to complain that their plans are being unfairly scuppered from afar. And the Sussexes will surely know that if it’s not a success, they cannot rely on any Royal Family safety net.

I wonder what went on behind the scenes with the Duke of Windsor ? We all know he was hobnobbing with the enemy and fervently hoping to make a triumphant return as King, but did the rf do anything ? When was being the Governor of Bermuda was it? put in train?

If it's a lack of understanding then I've done the same, since it's a mystery why all this couldn't have continued under the Archewell banner - unless it's some financial thing which we wouldn't know about?

And the SussexRoyal link is the other way round; type in sussexroyal.com, and what comes up is an invitation to "learn more" which takes you to the new website ...

Hate mongers and cheese mongers.

Roussette · Today 09:58

Posters on here never read the media doncha know... never influenced by it, they just stumbled across this new website that obviously wasn't reported on at all. 😂

Well, no - I clicked the link given by the OP. I admit I wouldn't have come across it otherwise, but a very enlightening read it proved to be!

Through this site, H & M are definitely telling us who they are, but perhaps in a way they didn't intend to.

Pryddan
Hate mongers and cheese mongers.

I'm definitely in the cheese mongers camp! Want my lunch now...

Long and complex story. I got really fascinated with it all, and read a lot about it. More than can really be effectively discussed on here, without derailing! I would recommend the Philip Ziegler biography, Edward VIII, it's a great starting point. Then maybe Charles Higham's biography, Mrs Simpson
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Mylovelygreendress · Today 10:57

Novella4 · Today 09:53

Orwell was warning about how easily people are manipulated by the media/ elites - look at any of the numerous hate threads here as evidence !
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You are underestimating posters when you sneer like that. Just because many of us see the whole H and M fiasco differently from you does not mean we are being manipulated.

Yes - why do some posters think they are immune to media and other manipulation, just because others think differently? It is patronising and insulting.