New Sussex website

[MaturingCheeseball]

So I see there is a brand-new Duke and Duchess of Sussex website. Very glossy.

But the self-aggrandising! I just read Meghan’s bio and - cringe - it was the worst of LinkedIn. Sometimes less is more!

I don't think KC will do anything about the website ( and I wouldn't either). He has more important things to worry about and frankly it is laughable

. Any sensible person can see that this is a rebrand by a couple who have had a great deal of negativity associated and created by themselves and are trying to show a different face - one where they are still trying to trade off the institution they hate. There are people who will like that kind of thing and will hire them for the coverage and hits that they bring - it's all a bit Gladiator style, isn't it?

The website is already yesterday's news. Charles has had more treatment. H and M have taken private jets to their "year before the event even happens" event. Things move on. Their struggle continues.

This is a modern-day Emperor's New Clothes with websites. Their advisers have told them there is a Men-in-Black style memory eraser, built right into the homepage.

My thoughts are that firstly it looks incredibly pompous styling it as ‘From the office of”- it’s a direct copy of the front of the Obamas’ website. He was the leader of the richest country in the world and commands a huge political and influential reach while running a seriously big foundation and growing media empire.

Secondly it’s a big risk to rebrand using a title which can be taken away in the future.

How many people interested in them are just eagerly awaiting their downfall. Rather than because they are so popular.

Indeed!
Its astounding how completely tone deaf they are about themselves
Obamas - masses of achievements
RF - not everyone's cup of tea (myself included) but have achieved and made good
H&M - blow hot air - done shit all and have zero to offer

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I doubt the RF will do anything, a) for the same reason they haven't responded to the various accusations - it just adds fuel to the fire, and b) when it comes down to it, they can only ask H&M not to use 'royal' and HRH, but have no means of enforcing it.

I could refer to myself as HRH Princess Wilderness of Wherever if I wanted to (as long as I wasn't using it to defraud people). People can name their children Prince/ss (or other titles e.g. Earl, Baron/Barron).

Of course, I would make myself a laughing stock, and luckily I don't feel the need for a title to prop up my self-esteem.

The RF grey rock approach is the only one, I think, as there will be a never-ending succession of ploys by H&M. Just let them get on with it.

Beautifully put, Turtlerussell, though with a small caveat around around what Harry may really feel about "Empire2"
Unfortunately Harry's take on things - especially compassion and racial issues - swaps around according to what suits, and each time we're invited to believe the latest version without demur

Or to quote Lewis Carroll, "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast"

It's not about awaiting their downfall, it's about them ceasing with monetising from the monarchy, their lies and treachery, creaming off others and being very parasitic just to make money. She should just go back to some kind of acting (albeit she's not rated much and certainly not Hollywood material). He could make something of himself via Invictus if he didn't feel schmoozing and wafting in and out was enough - they both need to work for a living

Not sure that it’s Charles is weak or that he understands they need to be self sufficient and is weighing up the pros and cons. There can be no gracious returning of them into the fold, no amount of PR could spin that as anything other than failure. The only win for Charles is that they are moderately successful, enough so he is not blamed for failing his son but not too successful that the next generation follow suit. Unfortunately I don’t think this is going to be the commercial success they need, realistically they need a few hundred million banked to live the life they are living and I can see the palace just waiting and watching.

I fundamentally agree with you, except on one point, monetising their titles is not self sufficiency. If letting them cash in, is what leads them to be financially self sufficient, then it was pointless the queen saying no, and as little as their kids are, they are already titling them up to do the same. It is not acceptable to the general public.

they have been cashing in from the day the left. The book, the interview, putting their titles on everything. But now they have all but broken the agreement with the queen, and to all intents and purposes using the brand and website they agreed not to.

at this point the palace is seeing the public call their lack of action into question, Charles is being accused across multiple platforms of being weak, of putting his son above the monarchy ,it is really damaging now. If he can’t deal with it, he should let William or his advisors.

people want Charles to act. As they can’t, and seeing two people make a mockery of the monarchy and they try to capitalise on it for their own financial gain, and the palace remaining silent, is not going down well at all. We all know the queen would have acted. As she did the first time they tried it.

i also don’t think the rebranding will be a success, it’s just a desperate measure. But it’s not about whether it’s successful or not. It’s about the optics associated with it.

I read that Archewell is morphing into “Sussex” as it does not meet the conditions to be a philanthropic foundation. I guess the rules are generous but not that generous!

It’s so unfortunate that they seem to start lots of things but never finish them. And as has been said several times, what is this website actually for? I’ve looked at it and I’m non the wiser 🤷‍♀️

Charles should leave it in the hands of the lawyers, they're clearly breaching what the queen stated was acceptable about the business of the RF - we had someone at our work who 'left' under a cloud of bullying then continued to use their job title and other things akin (which I won't say here as it's a legal matter) to gain from the company who 'let them go'

Can't it just be a charity? How does this change things in that regard?

I don't know whether the Queen's preferences are just that, or are backed by law - I doubt it. Hence Charles can't really do anything, can he, except cut off the oxygen which would fuel their marketableness as royals - not invite them to royal occasions. And perhaps recall the Sussex title though I don't know how doable that is. It would certainly be inflammatory, which the RF have sensibly avoided being up to now.

I think the issue is they have attempted to skirt as close to a breach as possible, without legally breaching. They have just removed royal and hrh, and relaunched the sussexroyal .com site, and they have linked to the old site, so I think that’s an even closer breach, they have even used her coat of arms, etc. they habe made it as royal as they can.

it’s clear that irrelevant of the agreement with the queen, they have decided to go against it, and tried to be clever, to get away with it, it’s also questionable if it’s for business, which is a breach of their titles, because clearly they are using it to boost their profile. And subsequently improve their earning power, the site doesn’t as such, sell stuff.

they have flown as close to thr wind as they could , so I can see why lawyers and the lord chamberlain maybe having to take some time.

for me though it’s not about the technicalities. It’s about the intent. And that is without doubt.

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Well you go ahead and cherry pick then this just proves you just turn a blind eye to other royals and I'm a poc too.

I at least recognise the other racist things other royal family members displayed from the brooch princess Michael of Kent wore that she had to publicly apologise for after it caused alot of backlash to all the racists comments by the Duke of Edinburgh.

But oh no according to you that racism is okay cos its nowhere near as bad as Harry.

At least Harry has owned his shit and apologised for it and highlighted it.

I have more respect for someone saying you know what what I wmdid wasn't right I'm sorry and actually it's a real problem. Than someone saying stuff not being sorry and then continuing to make racist remarks...again duke of Edinburgh as the classic example of this. He never learnt.

At least Harry has owned his shit and apologised for it and highlighted it

Actually neither Harry nor the appalling Princess Michael have apologised for anything; predictably, they both got a whipping boy spokesman to do it

At least Princess Michael showed up only herself though, as opposed to casting unspecified slurs at others and later trying to retract them

Edited to add I agree about Philip though, and the nonsense about "it was just his generation" doesn't cut it

As @Turtlerussell has already mentioned this thread is about H&M , if you wish to discuss your criticisms of the other royals, make your own thread or join one of the many on that subject, mn has already made it clear that derailing and changing the discussion away from an ops original discussion is against guidelines, it is also very disrespectful to the op @MaturingCheeseball !

I genuinely think Harry thinks it’s his title, he is a prince, and as such, he is fully entitled to do as he pleases with it, and if that’s cashing in, it’s his choice, and they were left with no option, as their failure is a conspiracy of the family, it isn’t their fault they failed.

honesrly I think Harry has always been cosseted and protected, allowed to get away with shit, and it all covered up for him. It was the opposite of what he said, and None of his failings were his fault. From the drugs on. He is a spoiled entitled man child. Who sadly is a bit thick with it.

someghing the palace and Charles worked hard to cover up, and is now laid bare to the public, and he’s met and married someone not much better.

Why does the website only use Meghan’s coat of arms? It’s even on Harry’s bio page. I would have thought they would either use both or have a joint one -https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/27/william-kate-duke-duchess-cambridge-conjugal-coat-of-arms

My view is KC will keep quiet and watch how this develops. At the end of the day H is Charles’ son and as we know from many posters on MN the bonds of family can be very strong.

Removing royal titles is highly unlikely. I think H & M might push the boundaries and the Lord Chamberlain will send a firm letter reminding them of the rules.

Sadly H & M have embarked on a path that is likely to see them struggle to find their place whilst earning an income. There will come a time when KC & C or W & K do a royal visit to the US and it will really emphasis the different path H & M have chosen to take.

A piece of jewellery worn by a minor non working Royal - is that the best you can come up with ??
What about Meghan’s blood diamonds?