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MaturingCheeseball · 12/02/2024 21:39

So I see there is a brand-new Duke and Duchess of Sussex website. Very glossy.

But the self-aggrandising! I just read Meghan’s bio and - cringe - it was the worst of LinkedIn. Sometimes less is more!

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wildernesssw · 14/02/2024 07:43

The empty pot rattles the most, as the saying goes...

hariboss · 14/02/2024 07:59

don't want to be royal. Use royal titles all over their website. Massive hypocrites.

Spectre8 · 14/02/2024 08:02

Livingtothefull · 14/02/2024 06:43

You know what? There is no point trying to counter the many negative stories and half truths on this thread (along with many many others on MN) about the Sussexes. Trying to defend H&M against each of them would mean being here all day then being accused of making out that they are perfect, which of course they are not - but they really don't deserve most of this.

That is how hate campaigns work. There is a deliberate and concentrated hate campaign against H&M by the British media who are angry that they have left the RF and are (mostly) out of their reach, and that Harry is suing many of them. Like them or loath them they are international figures & I don't think you are aware of how this hate campaign is making us look as a country.

This has been going on for years, and several people here have evidently swallowed it whole. All this hatred has a subliminal effect on people; story after story after story, whether true or not - so many that it is impossible to counter every one - aimed at making H&M look bad, until it becomes a 'truth universally acknowledged' that of course they are terrible people.

You have been 'played' by the tabloid media and primed to see H&M in a negative light whatever they do, and so of course you will see their website through that same murky lens. Some of the the bile and vicious snideness on here & other threads against 2 people you don't know has been a very unpleasant read.

And people are upset Harry left the RF? I wouldn't have stayed either.

And who here actually even talks about then like this in real life? I haven't heard anyone in my social group ever bring it up, the only time I see it is here or on X or if you read certain papers who love to churn out article after article

So if you filtered it out it just wouldn't even be something that you would talk about in a conversation with friends and family.

I think bsck to when the last time I even mentioned a celebrity or someone famous, it's usually if someone died to be honest (excluding anyone producing music because theb you would) but celebrity gossip type of stuff. It just doesn't come up.

Could you imagine this thread being a real life conversation amongst your friends after 5 mins you'd be like yeah okay who gives a shit bored of bitching and being nasty about people I don't even know, won't meet and has naff impact on my life. Let's talk about our holiday plans or something else.

CoffeeCantata · 14/02/2024 08:13

Passingthethyme · Today 01:34

And this thread, people being so nasty to someone they don't even know. Snide comments and pretty much frothing. It's all just so ..... well ..... English

Oh Lord...how many times???

You don't need to know people to have an opinion about them, especially when they are publicity-hungry self-promoters who have done a documentary series about themselves and their lives and beliefs, written a tell-all memoir and taken part a sensational interview with Oprah. I don't read the tabloid press.

I never knew Adolf Hitler, but I have an opinion about him. (Disclaimer for literal-minded posters: I'm not saying H & M are like AH, just pointing out how stupid the predictable 'You don't know them!' accusation is. Sadly I feel I know H & M far more than I'd choose to.

Ooh and frothing! I'd love to witness a bit of this MN legendary frothing I hear so much about. H & M don't make me froth - they make me laugh, and also gasp in amazement. But I do froth a bit when 'frothing' gets brought up for the hundredth time. Right back atcha, I say!

I think H & M are becoming indefensible - you couldn't make it up. On this thread I see only 3 main tactics from their fans: digression to criticise the RF for irrelevant things, 'You don't know them!' and 'Why do you care/Why are you frothing?' It's becoming a bit pathetic!

User3353235 · 14/02/2024 08:39

Livingtothefull · 14/02/2024 07:17

I never said they were innocent or blameless, just that I recognise a concerted hate campaign when I see one. And btw how is it possible to diagnose as 'narcissists' 2 people you have never met?

It's perfectly reasonable and feasible to deduce patterns on behaviour in people you don't know because on information and evidence they THEMSELVES have put into the public. This is how profiling works. Do you think that lawyers or investigators will simply give up every case saying "Oh dear, we don't know this person so how can we possibly make assumptions about their behaviour?" Human behaviour is extremely predictable, as are their thought processes regarding certain situations based on diagnosable clusters of personality disorders or MH conditions.

H&M have put an enormous amount of information about themselves into the public. Therefore it's extremely easy to draw conclusions about their personalities. Harry is not a narcissist but he has significant MH problems which he has openly talked about as well. He is not very smart and probably has anger issues as well. Meghan is definitely a narcissist based on her obsession with high status people, discarding those who are no longer useful to her and the thinly veiled attempts at manipulating and controlling public opinion of her. She was most triggered by her time in the RF because nobody gave her the narcissistic supply she craved.

In contrast, Kate is inscrutable because she puts virtually nothing of herself into public. Aside from a few PR photos, rehearsed interview answers and press releases, you hear absolutely nothing from Cambridge household. They do not talk about personal matters, do no react to anything from the media and therefore it's much harder to draw any conclusions about then. I do believe William struggled with MH as well, but has concealed or dealt with it better than Harry.

Gottseidank · 14/02/2024 08:45

If it’s true that the RF don’t intend to do anything about the website, I think that’s a sensible approach.

After this initial response, few people are likely to visit it anyway. The ‘rebranding’ is a damp squib.

CoffeeCantata · 14/02/2024 08:48

H&M have put an enormous amount of information about themselves into the public. Therefore it's extremely easy to draw conclusions about their personalities. Harry is definitely not a narcissist but he has significant MH problems which he has openly talked about as well. He probably has anger issues as well. Meghan is definitely a narcissist based on her obsession with high status people, discarding those who are no longer useful to her and the thinly veiled attempts at manipulating and controlling public opinion of her. She was most triggered by her time in the RF because nobody gave her the narcissistic supply she craved.

A great summary, User.

Two things I notice repeatedly when I see Meghan on camera:

She is utterly at a loss when the attention/spotlight is not on her. She just doesn't know what to do with herself and cannot seem to cope.

She needs to control things to a strange degree, evidenced by her chronic clutching of Harry - either ;by his hand or his arm. She frequently pulls him away from 'doing his duty' - when he's trying to talk to the public, or other special guests at events. For all Harry's faults, he was brought up to do this - he knows that's his role - but Meghan is often seen to be pulling him away from others. There's a shot of them at the Invictus Games where H is trying to put out cones or some equipment and getting involved with the public and M just keeps trying to hold his hand!! He sort of shakes her off, but she tries it at least 3 times before giving up and getting the hint. Very strange - and not down to affection at all - more about control and insecurity.

Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2024 08:53

I re- read their bios . The hypocrisy is jaw dropping . Environmentalist ? Today another private jet to Canada ! Maybe our American friends can confirm whether or not commercial airlines fly between California and Vancouver? Feminist ? How can any one claim to support women after Meghan’s behaviour towards Catherine and the late Queen to name but two. Unbelievable.
And a wry smile as I read that Meghan is excited about joining the Lemonada Family; the last family she joined, things didn’t work out too well did they ?

Kedece2410 · 14/02/2024 09:01

I love how she depicts herself as an influential feminist when let's face it the only reason we've heard of her is because of who she married & the family she married into & the exploitation of the titles it gave her. A great feminist example to women everywhere

Carpediemmakeitcount · 14/02/2024 09:06

FloofCloud · 14/02/2024 07:29

I'm not diagnosing them ... they are narcissistic, controlling, entitled, envious, over inflated sense of self importance, grandiosity, seeking praise, gaslighting, lying, blame shifting ... the list goes on and on

Tell me you hate them without telling me you hate them.

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/02/2024 09:07

Having looked at the Obama's site it's obvious that Harry and Meghan have just produced something in line with the US way of doing things. Which is totally understandable as Meghan is American and they live and work there. Their problem is that they hold British royal titles and thus the British feel they have the right to comment on them, in the same way as they comment on the rest of the royal family.

I don't see how they can get away from this cleft stick. Peter and Zara attract less criticism because they don't have titles, have never been working royals and don't talk about private family stuff. Harry and Meghan are the opposite and no matter what they do they are stuck.

I'm sure there are loads of rich people out there who live their lives in similar ways, doing bits of charity work whilst living a very extravagant lifestyle. They don't attract criticism because they aren't part of the royal family.

Unless they drop the titles I don't see how they escape this catch 22 they've found themselves in. Charles will never remove them, and rightly so in my opinion because it would cause far more issues than it would solve for anyone. However I do hope that it makes him or William think about how to change things going forward.

I do wonder if things would have been different if they had not left so quickly or left after the pandemic was over but we will never know.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 14/02/2024 09:09

Kedece2410 · 14/02/2024 09:01

I love how she depicts herself as an influential feminist when let's face it the only reason we've heard of her is because of who she married & the family she married into & the exploitation of the titles it gave her. A great feminist example to women everywhere

Women love to knock other women. Are you a better feminist 😂

Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2024 09:09

@Carpediemmakeitcount why do you and others talk about hate ? Do you not understand that many of us dislike their behaviour? Their hypocrisy? Their selfishness ? It’s not about hating THEM as I doubt any of us have actually met them . It’s all about their actions.

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Kedece2410 · 14/02/2024 09:13

Carpediemmakeitcount · 14/02/2024 09:09

Women love to knock other women. Are you a better feminist 😂

I dont publicly portray myself as a great feminist though & any of my achievements have been gained on merit rather than who I'm in a relationship with

Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2024 09:14

I agree with you @MrsLeonFarrell . The timing of their flounce was unfortunate due to the pandemic . Also , it looks pretty clear that the RF have closed ranks and are not sharing personal information with them so their stock of Royal gossip must be rather low now and let’s face it, the majority of people want the gossip , they don’t want lectured about environmental issues by someone who uses private jets the way I use the local bus service .

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Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2024 09:17

I am in my 60s and can’t remember ever seeing anyone froth .

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MaturingCheeseball · 14/02/2024 09:21

The grey rock approach works until the other party just goes one step too far. Yes, it’s a silly website, but they were banned from monetising the Sussex royal connection and now they’ve reverted back to that. I suppose, lawyering up, they think that “Sussex” does not equal “Sussex Royal “ and thus they get away with it, but who knows - I’m not an expert in that field. As everyone says, take away the Sussex title and a) they will bleat like crazy about the mean old rf and b) they’ll just rebrand as Prince and Princess.

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CoffeeCantata · 14/02/2024 09:23

Carpediemmakeitcount · Today 09:09

Women love to knock other women. Are you a better feminist 😂

We'll only be 'proper'feminists when we stop even considering the gender of people we comment on.

To me people are people - their sex/gender is irrelevant if I like or dislike their behaviour. I don't get this 'as a woman you shouldn't criticise women'.

(🤔Say what now???

Novella4 · 14/02/2024 09:25

Livingtothefull · 14/02/2024 06:43

You know what? There is no point trying to counter the many negative stories and half truths on this thread (along with many many others on MN) about the Sussexes. Trying to defend H&M against each of them would mean being here all day then being accused of making out that they are perfect, which of course they are not - but they really don't deserve most of this.

That is how hate campaigns work. There is a deliberate and concentrated hate campaign against H&M by the British media who are angry that they have left the RF and are (mostly) out of their reach, and that Harry is suing many of them. Like them or loath them they are international figures & I don't think you are aware of how this hate campaign is making us look as a country.

This has been going on for years, and several people here have evidently swallowed it whole. All this hatred has a subliminal effect on people; story after story after story, whether true or not - so many that it is impossible to counter every one - aimed at making H&M look bad, until it becomes a 'truth universally acknowledged' that of course they are terrible people.

You have been 'played' by the tabloid media and primed to see H&M in a negative light whatever they do, and so of course you will see their website through that same murky lens. Some of the the bile and vicious snideness on here & other threads against 2 people you don't know has been a very unpleasant read.

And people are upset Harry left the RF? I wouldn't have stayed either.

I have not read this thread but THIS 100%!

And you are so right about how bad the hate campaign makes the UK look .
I think it’s also distraction from the tumbling living standards in the UK - classic agitprop

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Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2024 09:26

MaturingCheeseball · 14/02/2024 09:21

The grey rock approach works until the other party just goes one step too far. Yes, it’s a silly website, but they were banned from monetising the Sussex royal connection and now they’ve reverted back to that. I suppose, lawyering up, they think that “Sussex” does not equal “Sussex Royal “ and thus they get away with it, but who knows - I’m not an expert in that field. As everyone says, take away the Sussex title and a) they will bleat like crazy about the mean old rf and b) they’ll just rebrand as Prince and Princess.

Is there not a link to Sussex Royal ?
What puzzles me is why they need to rebrand if Archewell is so successful and secondly why can’t Archewell productions issue podcasts ? Or am I misunderstanding?

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