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portocristo · 07/02/2024 07:17

So Harry flew for 11 hours and then spoke to his father for 45 minutes ? Charles then bobbed to Sandringham by helicopter and Harry checked into a hotel. I mean wouldn't you think Harry would have gone to Sandringham with Charles maybe ?

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Mrsjayy · 07/02/2024 12:26

C1N1C · 07/02/2024 12:07

Piers made an amusing point... (please forgive my language)

If Charles croaks it, and by sheer bad luck something happens to William, for probably another eight years, we could have Harry and Megan as regent.

Effectively eight years of queen Meghan!

Let that sink in...

Piers Morgan dreams of Meghan at night his wife must know this !

RhubarbGingerJam · 07/02/2024 12:29

C1N1C · 07/02/2024 12:07

Piers made an amusing point... (please forgive my language)

If Charles croaks it, and by sheer bad luck something happens to William, for probably another eight years, we could have Harry and Megan as regent.

Effectively eight years of queen Meghan!

Let that sink in...

Kate would be regent - there certainly historical precedent for that.

Or if she was too ill - likely Princess Ann or Prince Edward - as they live in the UK.

I really can't see Harry resident in another country being sent the red boxes of confidential UK government papers every night.

milveycrohn · 07/02/2024 12:34

@MaturingCheeseball
"So, Supporters, if you were Charles would you tell Harry the details of your illness - prognosis, treatment etc? Would you, hand on heart, trust him not to tell anyone else?"
Charles has presumably told him about the cancer, but we do not know if he has told him which type/area of what, etc. Or what treatment he is having.
If I were Charles, and did not want the general public to know (his right to keep some things private), then No, Harry is the last person I would tell.
In fact I had this conversation with myself earlier. The more you tell, the more chance of it getting out.
So (apart from his doctors), Presumably Camilla, and William and Catherine.
Anne, Edward?
The thing is, if they know, then you would have to tell P. Andrew, and then it is possible that Eugenie and Beatrice would learn the details.
As regards Harry, whatever he did would be wrong. Coming is considered wrong, but if he had stayed away, that would be wrong as well.
My own view is that coming was possibly the right thing, but I did not see the need to publicise it the way he has.
Harry is due to fo to Canada soon for Invictus so unlikely he'll stay long.

wildernesssw · 07/02/2024 12:35

Whatever the law currently says (and it might be Harry as things stand) it would be changed pdq - just as Edward and Anne have been added as Counsellors of State without any trouble where previously it was the next four in the line of succession.

I would guess a combination of Kate/Anne/Edward.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/02/2024 12:37

JewelleryCat · 07/02/2024 12:23

A website called Royal Central is telling me that if George needed a regent, it would be Harry because he’s next in succession but he doesn’t live in the UK anymore which is a requirement

Next in succession to George is Charlotte. PH is fifth in line to the throne - William, George, Charlotte, Louis, THEN Harry.

RunningAndSinging · 07/02/2024 12:39

You are right but Charlotte and Louis couldn’t be regent 😉. It would probably be Catherine. Catherine of Aragon was regent when Henry VIII was at war.

newnamethanks · 07/02/2024 12:44

Well, he's got time now to drop in on his unwell and ignored FIL, who is ill and might benefit from an unasked for mercy dash. Yes that FIL, the one without the titles and cash.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/02/2024 12:49

RunningAndSinging · 07/02/2024 12:39

You are right but Charlotte and Louis couldn’t be regent 😉. It would probably be Catherine. Catherine of Aragon was regent when Henry VIII was at war.

Yeah, I was referring to the succession issue rather than the regent issue. Mother/widow of the monarch is historically regarded as first choice to stand in for minor child - or in the case of Margaret Beaufort, grandmother until Henry VIII turned 18.

RhubarbGingerJam · 07/02/2024 12:51

Looks like it's in parliament power to appoint since Glorious revolution.

When Charles was under age it was Princess Margret who'd have been regent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_Acts

This seems to suggest currently as Harry doesn't live in UK it would be Andrew and then Beatrix - though Kate would be legal guardian still.

Regency Acts - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_Acts

Janetime · 07/02/2024 12:54

charles will have this all nailed down. Harry won’t get close. He’s a loose canon and doesn’t have the sense he wa born with.

hes made sure max publicity to him rushing over, and likely slunk home.

even after all he’s done people still hope one day he will prove everyone wrong, turn a new leaf and do something decent. There is no chance.

he’s come over, made sure everyone knew, so made his fathers illness about him again, came over probably at a time that wasn’t optimal too then likely sneaked back out now he’d got the publicity.

he could easily have given it a few weeks and came over on the quiet to see his dad, have dinner at sandringham. But nope. He went for max impact so everyone could see him do it.

maybe he thinks the Americans will be impressed.

selfishmeow · 07/02/2024 12:57

Ohnoooooooo · 07/02/2024 12:01

I'm sorry but this smacks of Harry trying to be seen to do the right thing.

I don't get this whole thing. Surely the family would have known about this before making it public regardless of Harry's situation standing outside of the family because at the end of the day, he is still his son. So my thought is did he wait until it was made public so he could travel and look like his doing the right thing or did he find out just like the rest of us but then again I'm sure the RF would have covered their tracks to avoid another book coming out in "they didn't even tell me that my dad had cancer". This whole thing sounds weird.

Janetime · 07/02/2024 12:57

RhubarbGingerJam · 07/02/2024 12:51

Looks like it's in parliament power to appoint since Glorious revolution.

When Charles was under age it was Princess Margret who'd have been regent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_Acts

This seems to suggest currently as Harry doesn't live in UK it would be Andrew and then Beatrix - though Kate would be legal guardian still.

It suggests Anne and Edward?

Mrsjayy · 07/02/2024 13:03

Janetime · 07/02/2024 12:57

It suggests Anne and Edward?

yes it's quite a lengthy wiki but it is Anne and Edward as of 2022 maybe after prince Andrew was stripped of his titles ?

gano · 07/02/2024 13:08

doubleshotcappuccino · 07/02/2024 07:50

Seems less concern for the king in a lot of these comments and a lot of " let's have another bash at Meghan " .. I wonder why she gets so much vitriol .. hmm .. can't think of what would single her out ?!!

Her name hadn't been mentioned once on this thread, until your tedious comment. Did you even read the thread prior to commenting?

RhubarbGingerJam · 07/02/2024 13:08

Regency[edit]
As of 2024, under the provisions of the Regency Acts in force, William, Prince of Wales, would become regent in the event of the incapacity of his father, King Charles III.
As of 2024, the first person under the age of 18 in the line of succession to the throne is William's eldest child (and elder son) Prince George of Wales, who is second in line to the throne after his father. If the prince were to succeed to the throne before his 18th birthday on 22 July 2031, his uncle, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex (the King's younger son), would serve as regent (if domiciled in the United Kingdom, as required by the 1937 Act), as George's younger siblings Charlotte and Louis (currently third and fourth in line, respectively) would also be minors. In the event that Prince Harry would be unable to serve as regent (a possibility since his 2019 decision to take up residence in the United States), the next in line would be the King's brother (Prince George's grand-uncle) Prince Andrew, Duke of York, followed by the Duke of York's elder daughter Princess Beatrice.

I was getting prince Andrew from that bit - but I did miss on first read that they change the law to make regent Prince Philip not Princess Margaret while Charles was under 18 - so may have missed something.

LakeTiticaca · 07/02/2024 13:10

I wonder if Scotland Yard are providing protection for Hazza while he's in the UK

reclaimmyboobs · 07/02/2024 13:12

JewelleryCat · 07/02/2024 12:23

A website called Royal Central is telling me that if George needed a regent, it would be Harry because he’s next in succession but he doesn’t live in the UK anymore which is a requirement

He can probably move back, find the stamp duty and conveyancing costs by rummaging for spare change behind the rescue chickens coop.

RhubarbGingerJam · 07/02/2024 13:14

He can probably move back, find the stamp duty and conveyancing costs by rummaging for spare change behind the rescue chickens coop.

More likely Parliament will quietly pass a bill to appoint someone more palatable to the voting public and easier to work with.

User3353235 · 07/02/2024 13:15

A genuine question is why Harry didn't just meet them in Sandringham? This would have been the most obvious solution for any family in the same situation if the parents happen to live 3hrs outside London. It's virtually no distance, he gets his old room, they can have a catch up without any time pressure.

The brief London meeting is bizarre af. Seems to imply that Charles genuinely didn't want to see much of Harry. Remains to be seen if he's actually making a (possibly secret) trip to Windsor. It's also tragic that he hasn't seen his niece and nephews for so long. Prince Louis probably has virtually no memory of Harry at all.

Omid Scobie is rubbing his greasy little hands together at the moment knowing Meghan is going to Whatsapp him the hottest gossip for his next book.

Spencer0220 · 07/02/2024 13:16

I'm going to go out on a limb here.

It's now widely accepted that our late queen died of cancer. We had no idea.

It's ENTIRELY possible the king is a hell of a lot sicker than we've been led to believe.

He's a very busy man who hasn't given up state business. I'm unconcerned by the short visit.

I for one am glad harry flew over. He missed the queen. He won't want a repeat.

Honestly the public have no idea what is actually going on

Janetime · 07/02/2024 13:19

User3353235 · 07/02/2024 13:15

A genuine question is why Harry didn't just meet them in Sandringham? This would have been the most obvious solution for any family in the same situation if the parents happen to live 3hrs outside London. It's virtually no distance, he gets his old room, they can have a catch up without any time pressure.

The brief London meeting is bizarre af. Seems to imply that Charles genuinely didn't want to see much of Harry. Remains to be seen if he's actually making a (possibly secret) trip to Windsor. It's also tragic that he hasn't seen his niece and nephews for so long. Prince Louis probably has virtually no memory of Harry at all.

Omid Scobie is rubbing his greasy little hands together at the moment knowing Meghan is going to Whatsapp him the hottest gossip for his next book.

Edited

I don’t think it implies that at all, and am absolutely sure if Harry wished to he could have come to the uk very discreetly and went to sandringham for dinner. This is bound to be Harry’s choice. He probably did it so he could get back out again quick, and just wanted to be seen to do the mercy dash

as said if he stayed at a hotel, I’m positive it is a airport one, and he was on an early flight out and home again.

RhubarbGingerJam · 07/02/2024 13:20

It's ENTIRELY possible the king is a hell of a lot sicker than we've been led to believe

Maybe it why the meeting was so short - as they've been downplaying it and then have this mad attention garnering dash which undermines all those efforts.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/02/2024 13:20

LakeTiticaca · 07/02/2024 13:10

I wonder if Scotland Yard are providing protection for Hazza while he's in the UK

Don't know about elsewhere, but I think it was said he had a couple of escort cars coming from the airport

Anyway if he's deemed to need it he'll get it ... just like before, except now he's chucking his teddies out of the pram over it Hmm

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/02/2024 13:20

A genuine question is why Harry didn't just meet them in Sandringham?

Where would be the kudos in a quiet low key visit?

It's ENTIRELY possible the king is a hell of a lot sicker than we've been led to believe

And given that he's having out patient treatment and continuing to do the red boxes, entirely possible that he isn't.

Not seeing the relevance of late HM allegedly having it, either. It's not catching or passed down the line along with succession to the throne. I was diagnosed with blood cancer back in 2019 and the only work I missed was for blood tests and regular catch ups with the oncologist.

Janetime · 07/02/2024 13:22

I doubt the king is sicker than they are saying, if he was I think Harry would have stayed longer. This was just a publicity play.

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