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King Charles has cancer

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CormorantStrikesBack · 05/02/2024 18:01

Just announced on the bbc, doesn’t say what sort yet. Hope he’s going to be ok.

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GreenBottleHanging · 06/02/2024 13:47

I love all the people who claim to not be able to stand the RF but who just love the drama and get so involved in everything about them.

Who would you all gossip about with such wroth if we had none eh? Whose health would you speculate about all day?

So bizarre.

Ramalangadingdong · 06/02/2024 13:48

Iwanttogo · 06/02/2024 11:28

You need to do your research. Diana her self confirmed her Bulimia and the reason for it.

I think some on here are too young so don't know about her saying these things herself. It's weird getting older because you see everything that happened in the RF's past being swept under the carpet over time, and yet you remember it all very clearly. She said herself that he said that she was getting chubby and she immediately went off and binged and threw up. I don't think we can blame him for her MH, but what he said was triggering for her.

Augustus40 · 06/02/2024 13:50

To be honest it is only King Charles I can cope with. All the rest I do not give a flying fig about.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 06/02/2024 13:52

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 05/02/2024 19:59

I wouldn’t be surprised if all the stress over the Harry/Meghan business, especially coupled with the Queen dying, has brought it on.

I certainly know of two people who’d suffered extreme stress or grief shortly before developing cancer.

I should have added, I don’t suppose all the sordid publicity about Prince Andrew helped, either.

The poor old Queen had an awful lot of family-related grief to cope with not long before she died.

Janetime · 06/02/2024 13:54

Ramalangadingdong · 06/02/2024 13:48

I think some on here are too young so don't know about her saying these things herself. It's weird getting older because you see everything that happened in the RF's past being swept under the carpet over time, and yet you remember it all very clearly. She said herself that he said that she was getting chubby and she immediately went off and binged and threw up. I don't think we can blame him for her MH, but what he said was triggering for her.

Plenty of us remember it bur we also recall the other things Diana said, like she’d been actively bulimic since 15. She made many accusations against Charles, and time has proven that some of them were a bit suspect. Not unlike her own son.

Lochroy · 06/02/2024 13:55

goodbyestranger · 06/02/2024 13:28

MrsDanvers no irony whatsoever. The point about the Palace isn't about Charles himself or any individual member of the close family - purely about the institution. Very different.

The word irony is overused massively on MN, often when completely inappropriate - as here.

Edited

If you read the post @MrsDanversGlidesAgain was referring to, it is dripping with irony.

Thunderbird7 · 06/02/2024 13:57

I think some are making the mistake that just because PR is a consideration that means it’s the only consideration or the #1 consideration. And therefore that somebody has made a mistake if PR has been or should have been relegated to positions #2 or #3.

Eg for Kate she has chosen her privacy over clarity of message. That’s not a huge b—lls up from her PR team, it’s a personal choice. The fact that people are speculating online what’s wrong with Kate is not her or her team’s fault.

Secondly with people claiming Harry is damned if he does & damned if he doesn’t - only if good publicity for himself is the only end goal. Only if you think the fact he’s gone and confused the King’s more hopeful public messaging about his own health and made people think the King is dying because his estranged son has played the doting son and dropped everything to heroically dash to his bedside (non-accidental parallels with the family dashing to HMTQ’s actual deathbed)… only if you think all that’s a better outcome than H not getting his opportunity for good publicity. Harry could easily said he’d be bringing his whole family to visit in spring or summer when the King is feeling better, or ya know, a Zoom call.

goodbyestranger · 06/02/2024 13:59

If you read the post @MrsDanversGlidesAgainwas referring to, it is dripping with irony

No it isn't Lochroy. You're wrong.

Serenster · 06/02/2024 14:01

I agree I don't think the rest of the family will have much to do with them, but courtiers? They leak everything and anything.

People keep saying that. But the two undisputed biggest stories since the Coronation are Charles’ cancer and Kate’s health condition. These are huge “scoops” in newspaper terms.And no-one breathed a word, despite the large number of Palace staff who would have known.

LolaSmiles · 06/02/2024 14:01

Roussette
You've hit the nail on the head here:

They deserve their privacy at times like this, not ghoulish rumours

At the end of the day, they're human beings and someone's family and friend. It surprises me how many people seem to express their deep concern shortly before adding a theory, or a story, or a complaint that they've not been given more details. Family should be able to visit unwell relatives without having to deal with what some random strangers think.

Like you I'm not a royalist and I'm also fairly willing to share opinions about media appearances and public statements, but I don't buy the idea that they're public property and should have the details of their personal lives and health picked apart the way that's happened recently. It's in very poor taste in my opinion.

GreenBottleHanging · 06/02/2024 14:01

Janetime · 06/02/2024 13:54

Plenty of us remember it bur we also recall the other things Diana said, like she’d been actively bulimic since 15. She made many accusations against Charles, and time has proven that some of them were a bit suspect. Not unlike her own son.

I can recall a lot of negativity about her too, lots of people didn’t like her. But when she died all this changed to how she was a saint and everyone saying they loved her all along.

It’s good she has a decent legacy, but it’s funny how time warps memories. I have zero feelings on her one way or the other, same as most of them really. Met Charles, he was nice and he’s done lots of good environmental stuff. But no feelings on any of them really. Be nice if they healed their family drama though.

notthatthis · 06/02/2024 14:02

LillythePinky · 06/02/2024 10:17

@notthatthis He looks far from frail.

Like his brothers and his sister, they have very weathered skin because they spend time outside on horses and farming.

He's actually very fit and active. He's slim, supposedly works out every day ad eats very healthily.

The reason (IMO) that they have had to declare his illness is because the treatment may cause hair loss, and fatigue, so people would start to speculate.

I would still disagree with you in the frail part. He will struggle on chemotherapy- sadly!

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 14:03

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 06/02/2024 13:52

I should have added, I don’t suppose all the sordid publicity about Prince Andrew helped, either.

The poor old Queen had an awful lot of family-related grief to cope with not long before she died.

The 'poor old queen' lived through her uncle's abdication and very soon afterwards WW2. Stresses that would have made the cares you highlight seem trivial.

notthatthis · 06/02/2024 14:03

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 10:14

It's very difficult to say that someone looks older or younger than they are, or that they look their true age. However, even if you can confidently make such assertions, it doesn't mean anything. Some people do just look older than they are but it has nothing to do with health, and bear in mind that close up television shots are unflattering. Many people think I look older than I am (and tactlessly tell me so), yet my fitness level is moderate, much higher than that of a friend, my age, but who looks a lot younger than her age. She considers a two mile walk to be a long one, while I regularly clock up 8 miles a day without thinking about it. On days when I swim or cycle, walking distance is less but I walk to and from the pool, 3 miles, in addition to swimming a mile. My young looking friend thinks that's an example of extreme fitness, which it certainly is not.

What does that have to do with anything from a medical point of view??

Ramalangadingdong · 06/02/2024 14:04

Thunderbird7 · 06/02/2024 13:57

I think some are making the mistake that just because PR is a consideration that means it’s the only consideration or the #1 consideration. And therefore that somebody has made a mistake if PR has been or should have been relegated to positions #2 or #3.

Eg for Kate she has chosen her privacy over clarity of message. That’s not a huge b—lls up from her PR team, it’s a personal choice. The fact that people are speculating online what’s wrong with Kate is not her or her team’s fault.

Secondly with people claiming Harry is damned if he does & damned if he doesn’t - only if good publicity for himself is the only end goal. Only if you think the fact he’s gone and confused the King’s more hopeful public messaging about his own health and made people think the King is dying because his estranged son has played the doting son and dropped everything to heroically dash to his bedside (non-accidental parallels with the family dashing to HMTQ’s actual deathbed)… only if you think all that’s a better outcome than H not getting his opportunity for good publicity. Harry could easily said he’d be bringing his whole family to visit in spring or summer when the King is feeling better, or ya know, a Zoom call.

I find this a bit confusing tbh. If I was told that a parent had cancer damn right I'd take a flight out to be with them (I think the only reason some people wouldn't is because they couldn't afford it - either monetarily or because their work wouldn't allow them). As for him being seen as a dashing hero - how the hell do we know that's how he sees himself? That's the spin the press put on it and frankly do you believe everything they say? How do you know that he doesn't care about his dad? His book is dripping with the desire for his father's love - but most people haven't read it, apart from the versions written by the tabloids.

BeachSideSurfShack · 06/02/2024 14:05

Angrycat2768 · 06/02/2024 12:27

William is not known for breaking into a sweat over anything. He probably took it as an excuse to have a couple of weeks off, got his PR to spin some old crap about him doing the school run and juggling the kids, and now its all come back to bite him on the bum as everyone thinks his wife is in a coma/has had a mental breakdown after he left her/having plastic surgery etc. If he wasn't so lazy he could have been out and about like Camilla, and just said 'Kate's doing well and gives her thanks for all the well wishes.

Exactly this!

frostyfeet · 06/02/2024 14:05

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 14:03

The 'poor old queen' lived through her uncle's abdication and very soon afterwards WW2. Stresses that would have made the cares you highlight seem trivial.

But at least her immediate family was united and supportive. Her children and her, not so much, and their children not at all.

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 14:07

notthatthis · 06/02/2024 14:03

What does that have to do with anything from a medical point of view??

It means that just because someone looks older than their true age, it doesn't mean they are not healthy.

frostyfeet · 06/02/2024 14:08

Cosmiccrash485 · 06/02/2024 11:43

Yes I agree. I was implying it was all smoke and mirrors.

I’m sure many of us could aspire to be, or at least be called, intellectuals, if we could summon up a place at Cambridge, call on any historian or tutor in the land to give us private lessons, afford the time to research something deeply, the resources to travel, houses big enough to hold vast libraries and ancient artefacts and works of art, teams of people to research on our behalf etc etc.

I could go on but it’s probably inappropriate atm given his ill health. I wish KC well on a personal level but I think the role they have to play opens them up to inherent credibility issues.

A bit like Edward wearing all of those medals he didn’t earn.

Yes, and Harry not being allowed wear the medals he actually did earn

jeffgoldblum · 06/02/2024 14:11

Sorry , genuinely want to know , which of the medals Harry earned, was he not allowed to wear?

Roussette · 06/02/2024 14:13

Harry could easily said he’d be bringing his whole family to visit in spring or summer when the King is feeling better, or ya know, a Zoom call.

Really? So a man's father has been diagnosed with cancer but he shouldn't visit him in case people like you think he is giving out a message to the public that he shouldn't. How mean.
And do you know what? Just say he did a zoom call only, or planned to visit April/May... then something happened... he would be absolutely annihilated not just on here but in the media.
He is quite entitled to visit his father and it is a private matter between the two of them.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 06/02/2024 14:13

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 14:03

The 'poor old queen' lived through her uncle's abdication and very soon afterwards WW2. Stresses that would have made the cares you highlight seem trivial.

You really don’t think that all the mudslinging by H and M, and the sordid publicity splashed all over the newspapers about her own son, would have been extremely upsetting?

You must have some very odd ideas, that’s all I can say.
She was very young during the abdication and WW2, and while of course they would have been very worrying, they would not have been deeply, personally hurtful.
I’d have thought that the vast majority of people would be able to understand the difference.

listeningagain · 06/02/2024 14:15

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mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 14:16

Christmasnutcracker · 06/02/2024 01:50

There is a tiered system for private health insurance holders too. Don’t be fooled into thinking otherwise.

I had my baby privately. The consultant was well known, very charismatic, on the TWO occasions I saw him. For every other appointment I saw a member of his team.
During one of my visits while I was being seen by one of my Consultant’s team, I met him on the way out. He was busy chatting to one of his other patients, who happened to be a tv soap star.
I’m sure Charles will be seen personally by the top medics in their field.

I had private ante-natal care for all three of my children. I saw my consultant at each appointment, and he delivered the babies. I suspect I may not be in the same part of the world, as we don't get many soap stars here.

You were still under the care of your consultant, even if you saw a member of his team.

I am sure you are right about the King - wouldn't it be a bit weird otherwise?

smilesy · 06/02/2024 14:18

jeffgoldblum · 06/02/2024 14:11

Sorry , genuinely want to know , which of the medals Harry earned, was he not allowed to wear?

I think the poster is confused, Jeff. He was allowed to wear his medals. No one can stop him doing that. It was the uniform he wasn’t allowed to wear. Same as the veterans at the cenotaph.

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