Indifference to PoW?

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I find it strange that there’s no real interest or concern from the public about POW being in hospital. Nobody seems to be that bothered. If you compare it to the circus if Diana had been in the same situation….. I just find it odd. I always thought she was relatively popular because we’re constantly told she is but actually…. Tumbleweed.

I know it’s her own business etc but it just feels quite odd that somebody can disappear and there is no interest in why. I don’t really know or care what’s happened or why, but the silence is really intriguing. It reminds me of when the brexit referendum happened and I had no idea that there was such strong feeling about the EU…. I had no idea that there was such apathy about the PoW until now. It’s been a real eye opener for me.

I reckon the next generation or two, the monarchy will be gone.

@Belinda5 It is quoted on the thread what Harry actually said. It is far more nuanced than I thought it was and seems accurate.

A bit like Harry and the whole.... I never said my family were racist! Did Meghan say they were racist!
No it was the press apparently!
Although why they would accept an award for doing something they didn't actually say or do is anyone's guess!

Now this is where I am critical of Harry. He said it was ‘unconscious bias’ on the part of his family. I believe that no matter what sort of racism, unconscious or conscious, it’s still racism. Harry didn’t seem to grasp that. Hopefully he does now.

We have not heard from Meghan in regards to this.

Well it's not as if they are living privately and quietly in Montecito, is it?!

😂

There clearly was no racism.

It was heavily implied in the Oprah interview.

Speculating about Harry and Meghan's child's skin colour does not per se imply racism. If it ever even happened - so much of the other crap they came out with can be disproved.

It would be different if they would treat the baby differently depending on its colour. I don't think there was ever any suggestion of that.

My BFF had a mixed race baby. We wondered what colour he would 'come out' same as parents wonder what hair colour, what colour of eyes they'll have, who their baby will resemble etc. And my friend had an absolutely gorgeous baby, who is now all grown up and has their own gorgeous baby!

And then Harry came out with this "unconscious bias" thing! Maybe he should spell out when any member of his family has treated his son (and daughter) who they've barely seen, any differently to any other family member?

We have heard from Meghan, through Harry's mouth.

I read the book and took it be his father's decision to marry Dianna. Was I wrong?

It is clever though - linking PH with Edward vee one one and Hitler.

I think there was a lot of encouragement going on with the Queen Mother and her lady-in-waiting, Diana's grandmother, Lady Fermoy.

There was clearly enough 'feeling' between them that they consummated the marriage and had two children?

There clearly was no racism.

That is not clear at all.

We have heard from Meghan, through Harry's mouth.

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edited because I posted and part of my post had gone missing.

I don't know whether the racism happened or not, but the ' oh we sll speculate about mixed race bsbies' skin colour is irritating. There is a world of difference between chatting with both parents, or with the parent who is a PoC and 'concern' about how dark a baby will be, without mother present or only with the White parent. Harry may have been causing trouble or he may have genuinely been upset or not realised how it could be taken by Meghan, but he had told her.

re the comment about William having to "marry safe".

I'd say that Catherine was absolutely not a "safe choice".

A safe choice would have been a member of European royalty/nobility, or a member of British nobility. Someone absolutely upper-class.

Catherine is none of those things. She is middle-class, therefore was not the safe choice to the establishment. I'm old enough to remember the talk about how her "exotic commoner blood" could spice up the RF bloodline.

There hasn't been an arranged marriage in the RF for decades & decades (100s of years actually, last one could be George V and Mary of Teck?) now. And Diana's aunt was apparently against the pair marrying - she had concerns Diana might not cope. IMO it was a rushed marriage, he felt he had to marry someone, she was entranced by the thought of a fairytale Princess romance, there was an initial attraction between the 2, but neither took the time to get to know each other to realise how totally different their needs/wants were.

I'd say that Catherine was absolutely not a "safe choice"

I'd disagree and say that because she was clearly so malleable she was uber safe.

Also a bit of hybrid vigour in the bloodline is an excellent thing but you need more than a Kate Middleton to shake some of the stupidity out of our current rf - quite a lot more I'd have said.

And her malleability isn't just about character but also because of the whole commoner nonsense: any moneyed and titled woman would have had far more confidence to not shut up and put up with all the stuff William dishes out. The commoner thing and the jeering at Carole's background was pretty malevolent tbh. I'm sure it's served a purpose in keeping Kate in a subservient place.

No doubt it will keep Kate locked in while William does what he wants - plus ca change etc.

maybe William married Kate because.....shock horror he loved/loves her.
they always look good and happy together.

They were together for years before reaching the age where there would have been pressure to marry, so I would guess they genuinely loved each other.

All what stuff? 🤨

The made up stuff @smilesy !

No jeff, I must be talking about different stuff to your stuff.

Well what stuff then?

Didn’t Lady Fermoy advise Diana against the marriage? (In life, not in The Crown.)

I agree. And the whole 10 years to get her used to it. More like they were testing her to see how much she would put up with- being mocked by, being dumped several times by William while he ran after aristo's who didn't want to marry him, taking up new interests that she then dumped because William called and she went running. From the age of 18. They weren't going to make the mistake of getting the heir to marry a teenager and then hope they could bend her into shape. They thoroughly tested her out beforehand, until she had done everything they wanted. William could have married her well before they were 30 and pout her under the protection of the RF much earlier. He chose not to.