Indifference to PoW?

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I find it strange that there’s no real interest or concern from the public about POW being in hospital. Nobody seems to be that bothered. If you compare it to the circus if Diana had been in the same situation….. I just find it odd. I always thought she was relatively popular because we’re constantly told she is but actually…. Tumbleweed.

I know it’s her own business etc but it just feels quite odd that somebody can disappear and there is no interest in why. I don’t really know or care what’s happened or why, but the silence is really intriguing. It reminds me of when the brexit referendum happened and I had no idea that there was such strong feeling about the EU…. I had no idea that there was such apathy about the PoW until now. It’s been a real eye opener for me.

I reckon the next generation or two, the monarchy will be gone.

Why are you all so obsessed with Harry and Meghan? They have not been working royals for years. The obsession puzzles me.

What Harry actually said:

For so many people in the family, especially obviously the men, there can be a temptation or urge to marry someone who fits in the mould, as opposed to somebody who you are perhaps destined to be with.”

It’s interesting to speculate how many men in his family’s choices of life partner Harry has had experience of, when assessing who he might have been referring to. There’s his father of course, and his brother. His uncle Edward. And then…?

asrarpolar because they are famous, beautiful and mavericks
well done to them for leaving the circus and building a new life away from the mania

Serenster obviously referring to William and Kate. Of course William had to marry someone safe.

It’s almost like they’ve done nothing to warrant continued interest. Except of course for: an interview with Oprah, numerous other interviews, an autobiography, a tv series, a podcast series, numerous other magazine articles, plenty of public appearances, large numbers of court cases, a near-catastrophic traffic experience, advertising appearances….

Why are you so obsessed with whether William visited his wife in hospital?
Why are you obsessed with the idea the royals have lied about it to you?

weird isn't it @asrarpolar this thread is about Kate, yet somehow H&M must be mentioned.

@Serenster so what? Lots of celebrities write autobiographies, appear in magazines, TV interviews, and so on, who I totally ignore. Unless you read trashy magazines or tabloids it is easy to ignore. So I do not understand the obsession with two people who are not even working royals.

@Samcro it is strange.

Fine for you, asrarpolar. As we’ve seen on the thread, you have different interests. So do we all!

what has harry got to do with W&K marriage. surely there are the "book" threads to slag him off on.

Quite.

Although, to be fair, this thread isn’t about W&K’s marriage either and yet plenty have seen fit to comment on it.

@Mylovelygreendress "I doubt very much Harry knows what de facto means !"

Of all the very silly statements on this thread, this is up there with the silliest.

And as for ‘time will tell’ about Twitter/gossip threads/internet and the like?

Indeed time may well tell.

Although I very much suspect it won’t be pertaining to the subject matter alluded to.

Time will indeed tell. It is quite entertaining to go back and read some of the threads when they left, and from the Oprah interview era. Some predictions about their new, stellar career haven't aged well!

asrarpolar · Today 14:33

Why are you all so obsessed with Harry and Meghan? They have not been working royals for years. The obsession puzzles me.

Well, whatever 'side' you're on, or whether you take sides at all, it's a bit disingenuous for people to keep asking why there's an interest in H & M!

Just as the Abdication Crisis in 1936 caused a constitutional crisis, the fallout from Megxit had/has the potential to cause big waves both in the UK and further afield.

They accused the RF of racism, and a lot of people believed that at the time and some still do, despite H & M's backtracking. The damage was extreme and it's not easily reparable. I'm not getting into rights and wrongs here, or who believes whom - that's all been gone over so many times etc etc, and it comes down to whom you're inclined to believe - none of us knows. I'm just spelling out why it's perfectly understandable that lots of people take an interest in these 2 and their lives, decisions, activities etc.

Just as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor's behaviour had the potential to be really embarrassing for the UK in the 30s, (what with their sympathy for Hitler etc), so people in the UK can't help but observe the goings on in Montecito. Let's face it - H & M hardly choose to live quiet, private lives, so we are going to keep hearing about them and therefore we'll all have an opinion.

No more 'Why are you so interested/invested in H & M??', please!

@CoffeeCantata the 'why are you so interested/invested in H&M' applies equally to the people who take time out of their day to post here asking 'why are you so interested/invested in H&M'... 😂

I thought Harry played a good game. but he didn't treat Mollie well.

The Duke of Windsor was the actual King. His abdication was a huge constitutional crisis. Even though he was massively problematic and, as I've said before, Wallis Simpson has been used as a scapegoat because a Royal couldn't possibly be fascist/entitled/wholly unsuited to being Head of State so it must have been a ' commoner' woman's fault. Harry leaving the Royal family has absolutely no implications whatsoever. There is a cottage industry of outrage about them that keeps on giving to newspapers, Royal commentators, Royal biographers, lip reading ' experts', body language ' experts'. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that a highly privileged family who lobbied the government for exemptions to the Equality Act so that they could continue employing people from.the same families who worked for them 300 years ago, who don't mix socially with anyone outside their own aristo group and are frankly brought up to believe they are superior could possibly have a racist bone in their body.

Catherine and William's Caribbean tour contributed significantly to that narrative.
But I agree it is not a constitutional crisis.

Just as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor's behaviour had the potential to be really embarrassing for the UK in the 30s, (what with their sympathy for Hitler etc), so people in the UK can't help but observe the goings on in Montecito

I think ' embarrassing' doesn't quite cover plotting with Hitler to be reinstalled as a puppet King once Hitler had taken over the whole of Europe and invaded the UK!
The comparison between Edward viii and Harry moaning to Oprah is laughable. He was a bona fide traitor.

Harry leaving the Royal family has absolutely no implications whatsoever.

This I agree with.

Until of course the scarcely veiled accusations and allegations.

The comparison with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor? Both in their own but different ways chose, with their actions, tried to/caused damage to their family.

A bona fide traitor? I would have to say no in Harry’s case using the above example.

But not so many centuries ago, to merely speak badly of the King was deemed to be traitorous in itself and may have resulted in you being sans tête. He’d probably have been spared his puddans being whirled to the winds on account of his status.

It isn’t outwith the realms of possibility to make comparisons I suppose. A strong, American, divorcee? Tick. A clearly deeply enamoured royal suitor? Tick. Burnt bridges with their family? You’d think so. So tick. Woman made the scapegoat for his actions? Tick. Royal crisis ensues? Not so much in the latter example but the media and some here would have had you believe it to be the case following various varying recollections.

And back to the ‘time will tell’ stuff? Yes it will.

Meghan seems to have the smarts recently to distance herself from anything terribly questionable.

Regardless of what time has in store for them? I’m sure she will be just fine. I don’t think the other Duchess had that luxury.

As for the RF not mixing outwith their trusted group? I think they’ll be even tighter now. No prizes for guessing why.

Agree.

And when we think that but for an accident of birth order we'd now be feting King Andrew I'm astounded at the level of support this mediaeval institution still enjoys.

Apart from his own parents, there have been no arranged marriages in the royal family for many many years. And even Charles and Diana weren't officially an arranged marriage. He was in love with Camilla but under pressure to marry and produce and heir, she was young, naive and 'suitable' and they were manipulated towards marriage as opposed to agreeing to enter into an arranged marriage. And Harry isn't a maverick. None of his generation of royals and practically no one in the previous generation has entered into an arranged marriage. He's talking rubbish.

Yes, he was making a pointed comment about his brother and sister-in-law, with whom he had previously appeared to be close. Either his opinion (was) changed, or he was pretending to be matey with Kate and was sneering behind her “suitable” back.

However it came about, that must have hurt her as there did once seem to be genuine affection there.

Scantily disguised pointed comments will hurt as much as direct hit.

I think sometimes that the owner of a mealie mouthed comment may be of the opinion it gives him/her wiggle room to wriggle out of it.

It doesn’t.

Sometimes cruel and unnecessary comments are just that.