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The royal family

Indifference to PoW?

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FaiIureToLunch · 28/01/2024 08:51

I find it strange that there’s no real interest or concern from the public about POW being in hospital. Nobody seems to be that bothered. If you compare it to the circus if Diana had been in the same situation….. I just find it odd. I always thought she was relatively popular because we’re constantly told she is but actually…. Tumbleweed.

I know it’s her own business etc but it just feels quite odd that somebody can disappear and there is no interest in why. I don’t really know or care what’s happened or why, but the silence is really intriguing. It reminds me of when the brexit referendum happened and I had no idea that there was such strong feeling about the EU…. I had no idea that there was such apathy about the PoW until now. It’s been a real eye opener for me.

I reckon the next generation or two, the monarchy will be gone.

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Playingintheshadow · 02/02/2024 10:16

Angrycat2768 · 02/02/2024 07:08

I don't know whether the racism happened or not, but the ' oh we sll speculate about mixed race bsbies' skin colour is irritating. There is a world of difference between chatting with both parents, or with the parent who is a PoC and 'concern' about how dark a baby will be, without mother present or only with the White parent. Harry may have been causing trouble or he may have genuinely been upset or not realised how it could be taken by Meghan, but he had told her.

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Consider it "irritating" if you want; personally I think it's pretty normal, if people are honest, and my mind will not be changed on that score by any shitty comments.

Plus we have zero idea whether any such conversation even happened, given Harry and Meghan's lax relationship with facts, or the context if it did happen.

I think it's disgusting how they sat back and allowed his family to be slated and accused of racism, before eventually dialling it back, and all of this when he would have known his grandparents were dying. Literally unforgiveable.

Playingintheshadow · 02/02/2024 10:21

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 09:02

I'd say that Catherine was absolutely not a "safe choice"

I'd disagree and say that because she was clearly so malleable she was uber safe.

Also a bit of hybrid vigour in the bloodline is an excellent thing but you need more than a Kate Middleton to shake some of the stupidity out of our current rf - quite a lot more I'd have said.

Just because Catherine behaves impeccably in public does not mean she is "malleable"! How bloody insulting!

On the contrary, I would say she is a woman who knows her own worth. She is educated and has a strong family network. I could imagine Carole giving William a good bollocking if she reckoned he had earned it.

It was typical too wasn't it - she was 'Waity Katie' - no such pejorative term for William dallying around before popping the question!! It was eminently sensible too, as it gave Kate a chance to get used to the whole Royal scenario before she was committed to it, unlike Harry rushing headlong to marry someone who had no interest in the graft side of being a Royal, and was and is patently unsuited to the role.

Playingintheshadow · 02/02/2024 10:24

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 09:07

And her malleability isn't just about character but also because of the whole commoner nonsense: any moneyed and titled woman would have had far more confidence to not shut up and put up with all the stuff William dishes out. The commoner thing and the jeering at Carole's background was pretty malevolent tbh. I'm sure it's served a purpose in keeping Kate in a subservient place.

What evidence do you have to suggest Kate is "malleable"? I would say she is well able for William!!

She has strong family support as well - I can't see the Middletons standing for any nonsense.

What a crock!

Playingintheshadow · 02/02/2024 10:26

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In your opinion.

Most women would not consent to sex with someone they didn't have some level attraction to.

It is your bar that is low.

Playingintheshadow · 02/02/2024 10:28

Angrycat2768 · 02/02/2024 10:00

I agree. And the whole 10 years to get her used to it. More like they were testing her to see how much she would put up with- being mocked by, being dumped several times by William while he ran after aristo's who didn't want to marry him, taking up new interests that she then dumped because William called and she went running. From the age of 18. They weren't going to make the mistake of getting the heir to marry a teenager and then hope they could bend her into shape. They thoroughly tested her out beforehand, until she had done everything they wanted. William could have married her well before they were 30 and pout her under the protection of the RF much earlier. He chose not to.

Why would they get married before they were BOTH ready to? Even these days, it's a big commitment and when you are the future king/potential queen, you need to be pretty damn sure about what you are doing. They were still young when they got married!!

Playingintheshadow · 02/02/2024 10:31

OMG there's been some grade A shite peddled on this thread!!!

MrsFinkelstein · 02/02/2024 10:42

Gremlinsateit · 02/02/2024 09:59

Didn’t Lady Fermoy advise Diana against the marriage? (In life, not in The Crown.)

She did. But to deny this serves to paint a narrative.

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CoffeeCantata · 02/02/2024 10:48

goodbyestranger · Today 09:07

And her malleability isn't just about character but also because of the whole commoner nonsense: any moneyed and titled woman would have had far more confidence to not shut up and put up with all the stuff William dishes out. The commoner thing and the jeering at Carole's background was pretty malevolent tbh. I'm sure it's served a purpose in keeping Kate in a subservient place.

What evidence is there (other than gossip) for 'what William dishes out'? I've only ever heard gossip and that old rubbish about his affair-that-never-was which Giles Coren admitted to making up.

And all this stuff about Catherine being malleable, subservient and other insulting slurs. She does the job she signed up for, that's all. Are nurses, barristers, City workers etc subservient because they wear the clothes that go with the job and discreetly do what's in the job description without openly rebelling? I don't' get these jibes at all - she does the job - in what way should she do it differently to avoid this kind of criticism?

Genuine questions.

MrsFinkelstein · 02/02/2024 10:50

Angrycat2768 · 02/02/2024 10:00

I agree. And the whole 10 years to get her used to it. More like they were testing her to see how much she would put up with- being mocked by, being dumped several times by William while he ran after aristo's who didn't want to marry him, taking up new interests that she then dumped because William called and she went running. From the age of 18. They weren't going to make the mistake of getting the heir to marry a teenager and then hope they could bend her into shape. They thoroughly tested her out beforehand, until she had done everything they wanted. William could have married her well before they were 30 and pout her under the protection of the RF much earlier. He chose not to.

They broke once - a break up initiated by Catherine, and it was William who chased her.

Nothing wrong with that - I broke up with my then boyfriend, when we met up again we were more sure of what we both wanted. We've now been married 26yrs.

Lots of couples break up then get back together.

MrsFinkelstein · 02/02/2024 10:55

@CoffeeCantata I've been a Nurse since 1989 - I'm clearly also very malleable since I go to work and don't publicly complain or make a fuss while at work. I also ensure I follow local and national protocols/policies regarding my role.

Here's me thinking I was just being professional, good to have someone inform me I've just been malleable the past 30+ yrs 😶

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 11:30

Gosh a few posters are protesting possibly a bit too much!

My source of info for William being a cheat came ahead of Giles Coren's post, more directly and not through social media or news. William is a cheat. He also has a serious temper problem and looking at the clip of the Dad lacking all self control and acting like a baby with the 'stinking pen', one can see where he gets his 'famous Windsor temper' from. Everything gets dismissed: 'famous Windsor temper' just another example of sanitising everything and anything to do with this messed up family. George apparently (according to the much older sister of one of his classmates. Again, directly and not through social media or news) also seems a bit too big for his boots already and reminds a lot of people at school a lot of the time that one day he will be king. Apples and trees.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 11:33

CoffeeCantata it's quite a feat to prove a negative in most circumstances but you can seriously post with confidence that William didn't cheat on Kate when all their neighbours know that he's a cheat. I'm quite impressed by how you can know.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 11:33

Especially since it's bollocks.

inthepottythistime · 02/02/2024 11:34

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CoffeeCantata · 02/02/2024 11:38

goodbyestranger · Today 11:33

CoffeeCantata it's quite a feat to prove a negative in most circumstances but you can seriously post with confidence that William didn't cheat on Kate when all their neighbours know that he's a cheat. I'm quite impressed by how you can know.

You've lost me completely...

What are you referring to? If it's the Rose Hanbury issue - surely that's been refuted by the charmer, Giles, Coren? Or have you got more recent intelligence? If so, please share.

I don't claim to 'know' anything - other than what I've stated above. As I say, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. How do you 'know' that William cheated on his wife - that's not a rhetorical question - please fill me in!

CoffeeCantata · 02/02/2024 11:41

goodbyestranger · Today 11:30

Gosh a few posters are protesting possibly a bit too much!

My source of info for William being a cheat came ahead of Giles Coren's post, more directly and not through social media or news. William is a cheat. He also has a serious temper problem and looking at the clip of the Dad lacking all self control and acting like a baby with the 'stinking pen', one can see where he gets his 'famous Windsor temper' from. Everything gets dismissed: 'famous Windsor temper' just another example of sanitising everything and anything to do with this messed up family. George apparently (according to the much older sister of one of his classmates. Again, directly and not through social media or news) also seems a bit too big for his boots already and reminds a lot of people at school a lot of the time that one day he will be king. Apples and trees.

Oh my God - just read this post and what a lot of nasty, speculative, half-baked and credulous assumptions.

I hope, goodbyestranger, that you're never the victim of malicious gossip or that you don't have people making huge extrapolations about your character and intentions from minor, very human, lapses.

I don't mind a bit of healthy judgmentalism usually, but your post really is toxic - even to a child! Wow.

CoffeeCantata · 02/02/2024 11:43

@MrsFinkelstein

Quite!😀

jeffgoldblum · 02/02/2024 11:43

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 11:33

Especially since it's bollocks.

Yes , I actually agree with this statement!
It is all a load of made up , gossipy bollocks .

Well done for admitting it!

jeffgoldblum · 02/02/2024 11:53

Also I might add , I have heard some awful, awful rumours about Harry ( and to a much lesser extent Meghan ) that if true would paint him not much better than another family member!
However I will not repeat or say what they are because without proof that is all they are rumours!
Anyone who says they have inside information on a website like mn are either delusional or at best terribly misguided!
Unless you are actually family, friends or actually staff , you have no idea or proof of any of this.

Serenster · 02/02/2024 11:54

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Can you post a link to this please? I’ve not been aware of this, and so far as I know the only time they have ever spoken publicly about their relationship history was theirs engagement interview.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 11:57

I'm afraid my info is solid. I know poor quality info and that which is credible. Sorry guys if that offends you. What is so extraordinary about William playing away. Check out the Dad.

ArcaneWireless · 02/02/2024 11:59

Gosh indeed.

As someone who had my life and career seriously damaged by someone spreading made up, malevolent and malicious shite, I seriously hope you are ashamed of yourself.

We know nothing.

You know nothing.

I’m with @jeffgoldblum here. Plenty of rumours surrounding both H&M and they have been floating around for years. Except repeating them would be deeply unfair and unpleasant - as you have shown here.

Google those rumours, repeat them and judge them in the same light too if you want to spout your truth.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 12:03

What on earth has William cheating got to do with Harry and Meghan!

I'm afraid that the 'rumours' have been out for a very long while so I'm hardly adding much fuel. All I've said is that my take on it is based on something rather more direct than a tweet by Giles Coren or any other media outlet.

It's just not news. Nor is the bad temper.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 12:07

ArcaneWireless although I lived in California for two years I don't express myself in a Californian way, so I don't use phrases such as 'my truth'. It doesn't work for me in either a semantic or philosophical way. I prefer truth, without a qualifier.

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