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Indifference to PoW?

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FaiIureToLunch · 28/01/2024 08:51

I find it strange that there’s no real interest or concern from the public about POW being in hospital. Nobody seems to be that bothered. If you compare it to the circus if Diana had been in the same situation….. I just find it odd. I always thought she was relatively popular because we’re constantly told she is but actually…. Tumbleweed.

I know it’s her own business etc but it just feels quite odd that somebody can disappear and there is no interest in why. I don’t really know or care what’s happened or why, but the silence is really intriguing. It reminds me of when the brexit referendum happened and I had no idea that there was such strong feeling about the EU…. I had no idea that there was such apathy about the PoW until now. It’s been a real eye opener for me.

I reckon the next generation or two, the monarchy will be gone.

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asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 11:56

@AliceOlive I do not know many elderly people sitting around unless they have very serious health issues that mean simply cooking and cleaning is as much as they can cope with. But I guess there are lazy people at all ages - Prince Andrew?

Roussette · 30/01/2024 12:04

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 11:50

What a weird (but predictable) turn this thread has taken.

Sorry, I assume you want to keep it on 'indifference to the Princess of Wales'. Is there much more to say on that, I'm all ears!
She went into hospital, the public were told she'd be out within 14 days, she was, she's gone home and is recuperating. And I hope, doing well.

Threads meander you know that!

Roussette · 30/01/2024 12:07

What hard work is Andrew or Fergie doing??

Haha! I'm sure SarahF is due another Mills & Boon soon, she usually does one a year. At least they're still in Royal Lodge so she can advertise it in the grounds as normal

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 12:12

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 11:56

@AliceOlive I do not know many elderly people sitting around unless they have very serious health issues that mean simply cooking and cleaning is as much as they can cope with. But I guess there are lazy people at all ages - Prince Andrew?

I’m sorry I just can’t be bothered with the negativity toward random strangers. Lazy. Ffs.

smilesy · 30/01/2024 12:14

Roussette · 30/01/2024 12:07

What hard work is Andrew or Fergie doing??

Haha! I'm sure SarahF is due another Mills & Boon soon, she usually does one a year. At least they're still in Royal Lodge so she can advertise it in the grounds as normal

Bit harsh given she is dealing with 2 cancer diagnoses

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:14

@AliceOlive I was responding to your words.

"Yes, and lots of people are happy to sit around."

I thought that was a judgemental statement, but I apologise if you were saying that being happy to sit around is a positive thing.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 12:19

user1477255159 · 30/01/2024 11:54

Nor do they have ladies in waiting, maids, cooks, chauffeurs, gardeners, secretaries, private nurses and doctors or someone who simply plays an instrument to wake them up!

What hard work is Andrew or Fergie doing??

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The retired men and women I volunteer with seem to mostly have second homes. And holidays in places like Spain and South America. Suspect most do have at least a maid and a gardener. We are in US so most people have private healthcare. 🤷‍♀️

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:22

The people I volunteer with do usually not have a bucket to piss in. But then they volunteer doing grunt work helping people out who are really struggling, rather than volunteer jobs that bring status.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 12:23

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:14

@AliceOlive I was responding to your words.

"Yes, and lots of people are happy to sit around."

I thought that was a judgemental statement, but I apologise if you were saying that being happy to sit around is a positive thing.

I was saying Surprise! People can do as they wish after they retire and don’t need randomers opining about it.

But if someone chooses to work I would not go around saying “Well that’s nothing! Anyone could do that.”

You don’t walk in their shoes.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 12:24

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:22

The people I volunteer with do usually not have a bucket to piss in. But then they volunteer doing grunt work helping people out who are really struggling, rather than volunteer jobs that bring status.

Well you clearly know everything and are better than all.

Roussette · 30/01/2024 12:26

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:22

The people I volunteer with do usually not have a bucket to piss in. But then they volunteer doing grunt work helping people out who are really struggling, rather than volunteer jobs that bring status.

This with knobs on. My decade long voluntary work (now moved on to something else!) was a broad range of people, many of whom had struggled themselves so just wanted to help others.

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:30

@AliceOlive it is people who have been really poor themselves and are now a tiny bit better off who are most likely to donate to a food bank.
It is not always the case, but generally well off people volunteer for status jobs like being on a committee.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 12:40

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:30

@AliceOlive it is people who have been really poor themselves and are now a tiny bit better off who are most likely to donate to a food bank.
It is not always the case, but generally well off people volunteer for status jobs like being on a committee.

That’s not my firsthand experience.

flusterbluff · 30/01/2024 13:07

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:30

@AliceOlive it is people who have been really poor themselves and are now a tiny bit better off who are most likely to donate to a food bank.
It is not always the case, but generally well off people volunteer for status jobs like being on a committee.

Based on your little myopic experience. Here's a hint. Your singular experience is not a scientific study.

I volunteer. I do grunt work. Many of those with me are very comfortably off middle class. They all do grunt work.

It's a mixed bag some people who volunteer and do grunt work are middle class. Some have struggled. Some have never struggled.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 30/01/2024 13:27

Strange how this always ends up in the same tired, petty points.
Pretty telling that Republic and their supporters don’t count any job that is not physical labour as hard work. What a vote winner that will be amongst the white collar masses.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 13:40

It is a fascinating peak into the minds and experience of some people.

I think the internet has actually exacerbated the problem rather than helping to educate people and heal divisions. Mainly because of the number of people keen only to trumpet their own opinion rather than to learn about other points of view.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 30/01/2024 13:41

Actually. The comments on this thread have made me have hope that there will never be a referendum on the monarchy. Not with the vapid, half truths used by anti-monarchists. If you really want to talk then do some very basic research into the actual role of the monarchy, taxation and government. Stop getting all your talking points from Tik Tok!

wildernesssw · 30/01/2024 14:09

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 12:30

@AliceOlive it is people who have been really poor themselves and are now a tiny bit better off who are most likely to donate to a food bank.
It is not always the case, but generally well off people volunteer for status jobs like being on a committee.

Hmmm. I am on a committee. I support volunteers, write funding applications, turn up to working sessions, and generally do the dogsbody work for the charity.

I also donate to food banks, and volunteer for another charity.

The work I put into my committee role outweighs the work I put into my other donations and volunteering.

A friend is the Chair of the PTA at her DC's school. Again, she recruits and supports volunteers, organises social/fundraising events, runs a second hand uniform service etc etc

I'm not sure why you are sneering at people for sitting on committees. For the vast majority of UK charities the people on committees are the ones doing the grunt work.

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 14:10

I am not sneering at people sitting in committees. I just do not call what you outline as the grunt low status work.

wildernesssw · 30/01/2024 14:10

Oh, and not much in the way of status! Just as well that's not my motivation 😂

Roussette · 30/01/2024 14:12

Stop getting all your talking points from Tik Tok!

I don't. I full well know the role of the Monarchy. That is why I have said endlessly, there will be one in my, my children's, and my GC's lifetimes. Nothing will change, we won't be a Republic.

However, I am always banging the drum for more transparency, slimming down (and I mean proper slimming down), just King/Queen, and direct heir/wife as working members of the RF, less manipulation of laws that don't suit the Monarchy, a complete overhaul of the relationship between the media and the Monarchy (if only for the sake of the three DCs growing up and thrown to the masses for entertainment), an overhaul of the Royal Report out yearly to actually mean something and not be just smoke and mirrors. Ditto Duchies...

That's it for now

wildernesssw · 30/01/2024 14:12

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 14:10

I am not sneering at people sitting in committees. I just do not call what you outline as the grunt low status work.

Really? The people who turn up regularly to run the second hand uniform shop, plant bulbs in the park, and act as stewards etc etc in the charities I know are the committee members.

Supplemented by other people who are less committed (but still valuable help)

wildernesssw · 30/01/2024 14:22

About 59% of UK charities have an income under £25,000. Charities by income band (charitycommission.gov.uk)

On the whole that means they are run by volunteers, with possibly a P/T member of staff. Trustees (committee members) predominantly have a hands on role and have to take an active part in running the organisation. They volunteer time and effort, as well as expertise.

Most 'committee members' do a lot of the grunt work, because there's no-one else to do it.

Charities by income band

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/sector-data/charities-by-income-band

Samcro · 30/01/2024 14:36

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 11:50

What a weird (but predictable) turn this thread has taken.

?? what do you mean

jeffgoldblum · 30/01/2024 15:05

I'd like to see posters start threads with the real meaning in the title for a change, then we all know what it's really about, for example this thread should really be titled

' a thread to slag off the royal family!'

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