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The royal family

Indifference to PoW?

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FaiIureToLunch · 28/01/2024 08:51

I find it strange that there’s no real interest or concern from the public about POW being in hospital. Nobody seems to be that bothered. If you compare it to the circus if Diana had been in the same situation….. I just find it odd. I always thought she was relatively popular because we’re constantly told she is but actually…. Tumbleweed.

I know it’s her own business etc but it just feels quite odd that somebody can disappear and there is no interest in why. I don’t really know or care what’s happened or why, but the silence is really intriguing. It reminds me of when the brexit referendum happened and I had no idea that there was such strong feeling about the EU…. I had no idea that there was such apathy about the PoW until now. It’s been a real eye opener for me.

I reckon the next generation or two, the monarchy will be gone.

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Playingintheshadow · 29/01/2024 20:14

Novella4 · 29/01/2024 16:45

No @Playingintheshadow

The pomp was invented/ dreamed up mainly in the 19th century as a way to drum up interest in the ‘royals ‘

It is not some ancient direct line much as the ‘royals ‘ like to play on that .
Don’t you ask yourself why they have decided on the height of slavery / empire era as the ‘look’ ?

But the ‘pomp’ is the least of it . Some may find it entertaining - I don’t see it myself .

The objections to the Windsors are much more serious than the Disney waste of money that is the coronation
The UK is tolerating a Windsor being set above the law . It does not apply .
The country is ‘given ‘ to him.
And as for being head of a church . Well words fail me .
No other European country has a coronation .
They wouldn’t dare .

Don't know what Edward was thinking then in the 13th century when he commissioned St Edward's crown - the one that monarchs literally are crowned with!!!

And Henry VIII started the English reformation, so...!

Coronation is an English tradition as well.

Unclench. All this hatred isn't good for your health and isn't a good look either.

Novella4 · 29/01/2024 21:00

@Playingintheshadow

An English tradition you say ?

So Charlie and side piece are appointed by god . That is what coronation means
Do you actually believe that ?

flusterbluff · 29/01/2024 21:03

Meh yep. Indifferent.

Playingintheshadow · 29/01/2024 21:33

Novella4 · 29/01/2024 21:00

@Playingintheshadow

An English tradition you say ?

So Charlie and side piece are appointed by god . That is what coronation means
Do you actually believe that ?

You'd have to ask God.

Playingintheshadow · 29/01/2024 21:34

flusterbluff · 29/01/2024 21:03

Meh yep. Indifferent.

Congratulations on taking the time out of your day to post that.

EasternStandard · 29/01/2024 21:35

Playingintheshadow · 29/01/2024 21:33

You'd have to ask God.

😂 Try tagging

Novella4 · 29/01/2024 21:49

Playingintheshadow · 29/01/2024 21:33

You'd have to ask God.

So , no

Like the rest of us .
What a criminal waste of money

flusterbluff · 29/01/2024 21:53

@Playingintheshadow Congratulations on taking the time out of your day to post that.

You are very welcome

jeffgoldblum · 29/01/2024 21:56

goodbyestranger · 29/01/2024 18:45

Mylovelygreendress there are remarkably few options and all of the limited options would justify a wish not to go public about exactly what the issue has been.

So you don't know then ! Like the rest of us.

goodbyestranger · 29/01/2024 22:13

Not sure what that's about jeff.

Datingquez · 29/01/2024 22:36

Her death, for some reason I will never understand, conferred retroactive sainthood.

Er because she was an amazing woman whose life was cut tragically short.

asrarpolar · 29/01/2024 22:49

The reaction to Diana's death was understandable.
Some people are out of touch with public opinion. Like those surprised by the brexit vote,

FishBowlSwimmer · 30/01/2024 03:07

I care, I hope she's ok, I have a lot of respect for both Catherine and William. She's clearly had major surgery and she doesn't want people to know more than that, I can respect that. That doesn't mean I don't wish her well.

Diana was a phenomenon, I think most people realised she was fundamentally flawed, but aren't we all in some way? She had something indefinable that made her special, it can't be replicated, it can't be acted, it just is. Catherine doesn't have "it", but she is liked and respected in a way the late Queen was.

lemmein · 30/01/2024 04:57

I don't think they "spin a tale". I think most of them do feel a sense of duty. The late Queen absolutely did - working at 96 still fecking 2 days before she died! - and I think that's something that's bred into them! At the ages of the likes of Charles and Anne too, most of the rest of us would be well retired.

The fact that the queen could do her job at 96 and 2 days from death highlights surely that the 'job' isn't very taxing at all? Most people are exhausted by the time they get to pension age (or dead!) To hold the royals up as resilient grafters compared to your average pensioner is fucking offensive!

NaiceViper · 30/01/2024 09:35

Divine Right was abolished in the Glorious Revolution of 1688

Samcro · 30/01/2024 09:41

lemmein · 30/01/2024 04:57

I don't think they "spin a tale". I think most of them do feel a sense of duty. The late Queen absolutely did - working at 96 still fecking 2 days before she died! - and I think that's something that's bred into them! At the ages of the likes of Charles and Anne too, most of the rest of us would be well retired.

The fact that the queen could do her job at 96 and 2 days from death highlights surely that the 'job' isn't very taxing at all? Most people are exhausted by the time they get to pension age (or dead!) To hold the royals up as resilient grafters compared to your average pensioner is fucking offensive!

so true. the idea that they are hard working is a myth.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 30/01/2024 09:43

Playingintheshadow · 29/01/2024 20:10

Well good for you, but I wouldn't. Every single thing is constantly scrutinised - Kate's hair, her weight, is she anorexic/bullimic/what does she eat, is she pregnant.... having to get dressed up and rolled out even if she CBA to meet people most of whom she must have no interest in - not for me. Always in the spotlight, everywhere you go. No thanks!

I don't think they "spin a tale". I think most of them do feel a sense of duty. The late Queen absolutely did - working at 96 still fecking 2 days before she died! - and I think that's something that's bred into them! At the ages of the likes of Charles and Anne too, most of the rest of us would be well retired.

I don't know what the true situation is with Andrew - and neither do you.

having to get dressed up and rolled out even if she CBA to meet people most of whom she must have no interest

Like working at Tesco then but without the snotty customers being vile to you. And without the actual work part tbf.

LittleTeawithmilk1 · 30/01/2024 10:37

The fact that the queen could do her job at 96 and 2 days from death highlights surely that the 'job' isn't very taxing at all? Most people are exhausted by the time they get to pension age (or dead!) To hold the royals up as resilient grafters compared to your average pensioner is fucking offensive!

Lemmein it’s the same as my grandad. He died aged 95 but until he was 94 he went to work, to the family business he had created as a much younger man. At 94 he was turning up 5 days a week to his office (driven there and home by my aunt), for a few hours each morning. He didn’t do a lot of work but he did some. Mostly he needed the structure of routine and to feel useful.

However, my ex husband has had a physically demanding job his whole life which has resulted in extreme wear and tear on his body and has recently retired aged 70. Thoroughly exhausted, and body pretty much broken. He walks and moves stiffly like my grandad did at 90. His job was much more physically demanding than my granddads. And my ex always worked for someone else. And took few holidays. Because his employer only offered 2, and later 3, weeks a year holiday. His story of working life is a common one.

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 11:11

@LittleTeawithmilk1 I am sorry your fathers work has left him like that. I too have seen the reality a physically demanding job over a lifetime can have on people.
The elderly Royals work probably helps to keep them alive as it is good for you. A small number of hours a week visiting somewhere new, meeting new people, and being treated with respect and as important is good for mental and physical health. I agree it is not like a job as most people recognise it.

Roussette · 30/01/2024 11:26

This is interesting and I agree. And surely, if you don't feel up to it, you can pull out of an engagement. I know it lets people down and I'm sure they don't make a habit of that but bottom line is... you can do what you want!

I mean... look at William... anyone in real life who was looking after children, school runs, visiting wife in Hospital would be run ragged. Hoping your employer is sympathetic, juggling everything. But William can just say... no, won't be working for a while full stop.

The fact they continue with all of this until old age does not mean it is taxing, it gives them a purpose in life, they can do the bare minimum of they want and pass the rest of it off to courtiers and family. My Father worked until mid 80s, he wanted to, he had a little business and wouldn't keep away despite it running quite happily without him. I think, when you're old... stuff going wrong in the house, endless life admin, food shopping, meals prep is what is taxing. The RF don't have any of that.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 11:34

I wouldn’t try to take anything away from someone who can’t work or doesn’t care to after a certain age. But I’ll always remain impressed with people who do so basically until they drop. I have family members that did including a great grandmother who stopped doing bridal alterations around age 90 and began doing men’s instead. She said her vision was not as good.

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 11:42

Lots of people with jobs that can not be carried on until you are very elderly, do voluntary work or help with childcare. Lots of elderly women are mainstays of many charities. It is a shame they do not get paid for what they do.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 11:45

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 11:42

Lots of people with jobs that can not be carried on until you are very elderly, do voluntary work or help with childcare. Lots of elderly women are mainstays of many charities. It is a shame they do not get paid for what they do.

Yes, and lots of people are happy to sit around.

The people I know doing volunteer work after retirement aren’t interested in being paid.

AliceOlive · 30/01/2024 11:50

What a weird (but predictable) turn this thread has taken.

user1477255159 · 30/01/2024 11:54

asrarpolar · 30/01/2024 11:42

Lots of people with jobs that can not be carried on until you are very elderly, do voluntary work or help with childcare. Lots of elderly women are mainstays of many charities. It is a shame they do not get paid for what they do.

Nor do they have ladies in waiting, maids, cooks, chauffeurs, gardeners, secretaries, private nurses and doctors or someone who simply plays an instrument to wake them up!

What hard work is Andrew or Fergie doing??

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