Social media leaking news of POW hysterectomy

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It goes without saying its only her business, however I found it odd that whilst 'doomscrolling' from sleeplessness I came across a couple of posts from US news sites claiming they had news obtained from 'Palace sources' posted onto SM.

We all know that KP is somewhat leaky but over something like this? (I suppose Maybe if the price was right?)
Or is it just speculation passed off as the truth?
Or, are US news sources avowed to publish info that uk ones aren't?

I'm not particularly interested in what she's had done, surgery is unpleasant, full stop, But I'm just wondering if there's a reason the story is in US but not uk news-if it even real ( which seems slightly unlikely I would think, but then you never know about anyone personal life).
Just found out odd and curious as to the whys

Far enough. Not sure that is going to protect them from being presented with the speculation on various websites. "Look what this one says about your mum!"

And yes, that would be very worrying for any child....

I've never commented on anything to do with the RF before. I didn't watch the coronation. I'm always surprised by how interested people are in what they wear and do on a day to day basis.

But here I am on this thread because this situation is fucking disturbing and odd, and the total media blackout (combined with odd little daggers, like the Chris Ship tweet about William visiting once - but not again) makes it all the more so. Is she there? Not there? There since Dec 28? If she had abdominal surgery almost two weeks ago, why would there be no update by now? But if she didn't have abdominal surgery and it's all a big ruse to conceal an eating disorder or domestic violence then, again, why wouldn't there be a (fake) update?

The press were very quiet when the Queen was dying. Normally they're all over everything. I fear it is something very serious.

I totally agree with that, which is why some posters on here should be bloody ashamed of themselves - treating the whole thing like a spectator sport while spreading alarming and unverified rubbish across the internet.

They are at a private primary school. It’s the highest degree unlikely that any of the children are allowed to have phones on them during the school day.

In any event, I am sure William still has very vivid memories of being dragged out in front of the public after his mother's death with red eyed ghouls sobbing out his name and acting as if they too had been personally bereaved. I am sure, as a result, he wants to keep his children away from dramatic and misinformed members of the public hanging around the hospital, and makes sure to bring them in a back door if they visit.

It might be something serious (I sincerely hope not) but people are forgetting about the very, very sad case of the nurse who committed suicide after being contacted by prankster djs when KM was in hospital previously.

I wouldn’t blame the powers that be for putting a wall of protective silence around PoW this time simply to prevent giving any similar stupidity an outlet.

A sensible post

@Serenster
"They are at a private primary school. It’s the highest degree unlikely that any of the children are allowed to have phones on them during the school day."

Ah yes. I forgot that children at private school behave impeccably at all times.

Why do people keep making pointed remarks about Dec 28th? Allusions are made but nothing ever actually said. What is this?

The only place I've been able to see where it maybe initially came from is on Tiktok from a rapidly pro-Sussex account who daily comes up with new conspiracy theories. And again, they never actually say anything just keep talking about the date.

What is gained by this?

Ah yes. I forgot that children at private school behave impeccably at all times.

You know about all primary school aged children at all private schools, do you?

@Serenster "You know about all primary school aged children at all private schools, do you?"

No, I don't. But you apparently must to be so certain that none of George's classmates will have phones. Or will share stuff they read online at home with him.

I’m not certain, of course I’m not.

But I do have first-hand experience about how celebrity children manage at primary schools. One of my children has had a classmate with a household name parent in their class for their whole time at school. So I know exactly how that has worked in practice.

But you apparently must to be so certain that none of George's classmates will have phones.

Here are the school rules for the school George, Charlotte and Louis attend, by the way:

Mobile phones are not permitted for pupils in school. In exceptional
circumstances they should be handed in to school office to look after during
the school day and be collected to go home. Pupils found with a mobile phone
in school should expect to face a possible internal isolation.

@Serenster Fair enough. My godson isn't a celebrity. That's why, I suppose, at a very similar school he was subjected to relentless anti semitic bullying, backed up with printed out pages from appalling websites brought in to school from home. That's why I think that while the PofW is absolutely entitled to her privacy, this media blackout is a misstep.

the total media blackout (combined with odd little daggers, like the Chris Ship tweet about William visiting once - but not again) makes it all the more so

But what is there to report on. She's still in hospital & we still don't know why, that's not newsworthy. We don't need a daily report on nothing

I read that William has been at the hospital every day but goes via a private entrance rather than the traditional front door used after Births, and it was agreed with the press that if they covered it the first day they'd leave him after that. Again, man visits wife in hospital, is hardly worth a daily news update

Well get an update when she leaves hospital but I wouldn't imagine there will be anything after that til she's back carrying out duties

Why do people keep making pointed remarks about Dec 28th? Allusions are made but nothing ever actually said. What is this?

There was allegedly a royal motorcade spotted in central London on Dec 28 and some people jumped to the conclusion that Kate was rushed to hospital on that day.

I think losingtheplot999 was making a broader point. Of course the PoW is entitled to keep her medical records private but part of the Faustian pact that the monarchy has made with the media, for the survival of the institution, is that it will share all the good bits of their lives with us: all the spectacular weddings, good news about births, engagements, important birthdays, passing out ceremonies, first days at school etc.

So once you have invited the media in to do that, because the public would not be remotely interested in monarchy if they celebrated all of their happy ceremonies such as weddings in private behind closed doors, is is also becomes incumbent upon them to share their funerals, divorces, employment failures, falling out, extra-marital relationships and medical problems too.

You can’t have one without the other and it’s naive in the extreme to think that you can.

This is the best summary anyone could have written. Being part of the RF by nature is inviting the public to take part in elements of private life. Normal people do not have crowds cheering at their weddings or when they leave hospital holding a baby. If you create this level of para social relationships into your life, you need to assume that people are invested in the bad as well. They will be concerned if you go to hospital because they feel they know you as a friend.

This arguably applies to all A-list celebrities or social media stars who owe part of their fame and fortune to their mass popularity. You can't have one side without the other and it's a double edged sword. Personally, I think the Michael Schumacher case was tragic but leaves a weird taste behind because he literally disappeared since the accident 10 years ago. Without a single statement, acknowledgement or photo for the fans who supported his over his entire career.

His wife and kids have managed to come to terms with the tragedy and moving on with their own lives. Schumacher is (it seems) clearly stable after such a long time frame. It must be immensely complicated to prioritise media blackout over everything else which means he clearly cannot enter any public spaces (park, town, restaurant, shops) where members of the public might take photos. Does it mean they're essentially keeping him a prisoner in his own home to avoid any leaks to the press?

The narrative is also quite ableist because the idea of becoming disabled seems enough reason to hide away from public view forever. It's something shameful, repulsive and there's no point participating in public life again if you don't have an able body. I'm old enough to remember the Christopher Reeves accident and people welcomed him back. He managed to live a fulfilling second half of his life and used his situation to raise awareness for disabled rights.

@CurlewKate I am very sorry to hear that your godson was victimised liked hat , that sounds horrendous, and I hope the school has taken steps to improve its care of its pupils since then.

at this point I’m expecting some damage limitation like a KP leak / “sources close to the prince of wales” that William caught covid this week so had to stay away from the hospital.

I’m surprised they even released information she was in hospital at all, it’s not unusual for her and William to be absent from public life for weeks at a time, if they really thought it would be just 10 days they could have covered that, particularly as Charles was in hospital at the same time, they could hint at deliberately keeping the diary free to focus on him.

@Serenster Thank you. But you're talking as if this was a long time ago. Sadly not.

I do think you can have one without the other though. Having formal engagements that are expected as part of your role is totally different to being expected to put your private life out there in the public domain to be picked apart.

Eg It's expected that senior royal wedding ceremonies are public events as part of tradition, but I don't think that puts any of them under obligation to disclose their private celebrations, what happened at the private receptions, the details within their marriage etc. That's their private life.

If average Joe and Joanne Blogs are stupid enough to think they're mates with A Listers and the Royal Family that they're in emotional distress because they've not been given details about someone's medical situation, then they need to take a look at themselves to be honest. I know that probably sounds harsh but it's in get a grip territory to me.

Public figures are not public property, even if part of their lives are in the public domain. If people are stupid enough to think they know public figures as friends, more fool them.

but you have no idea what the children know!

Kate’s parents and siblings will most definitely be visiting her, I would expect to see them arrive, flowers in hand and bright and breezily saying Kate is doing well would be the standard protocol. Possibly followed by photos of the children with homemade cards etc.

The fact they haven’t been able to do this - and there is very clearly a media blackout is now very uncomfortable for those of us that care about Kate, and waiting to hear how she is.

This whole thing from start to finish has been very strained and clearly something serious has happened. I feel so sorry for Kate, because she will hate being away from her beautiful children for this long and will want to be at home with them.

I genuinely think that if Kate was seriously ill then Charles would have postponed his op . The fact that Camilla has been seen smiling and Charles looked relaxed suggests that Kate is on the mend . Family will be visiting through back entrance I would have thought.

Of course they wouldn’t cancel a routine minor operation for the King, I can’t even imagine the media frenzy if they did - thar would give the game away instantly.
His minor op has definitely gone ahead to serve as a distraction if nothing else. In an effort to take the pressure off Kate.