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Social media leaking news of POW hysterectomy

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CupOfCoffeeandaPineappleChunk · 20/01/2024 05:52

It goes without saying its only her business, however I found it odd that whilst 'doomscrolling' from sleeplessness I came across a couple of posts from US news sites claiming they had news obtained from 'Palace sources' posted onto SM.

We all know that KP is somewhat leaky but over something like this? (I suppose Maybe if the price was right?)
Or is it just speculation passed off as the truth?
Or, are US news sources avowed to publish info that uk ones aren't?

I'm not particularly interested in what she's had done, surgery is unpleasant, full stop, But I'm just wondering if there's a reason the story is in US but not uk news-if it even real ( which seems slightly unlikely I would think, but then you never know about anyone personal life).
Just found out odd and curious as to the whys

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Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 13:48

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 13:41

Of course they wouldn’t cancel a routine minor operation for the King, I can’t even imagine the media frenzy if they did - thar would give the game away instantly.
His minor op has definitely gone ahead to serve as a distraction if nothing else. In an effort to take the pressure off Kate.

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But no one knew he was having a minor operation until after the announcement that Kate was in hospital.

There is no 'evidence' to suggest that anything is other than the Palace announced ie Kate has had planned surgery, will be home any day now and will be back performing public duties by Easter. I really don't know why some people are expecting daily bulletins and photos of her children going in and out of the hospital. And all this 'concern' seems to be a mask for prurience and salivating for any signs that this could be something serious and gossip worthy.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 13:54

Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 13:48

But no one knew he was having a minor operation until after the announcement that Kate was in hospital.

There is no 'evidence' to suggest that anything is other than the Palace announced ie Kate has had planned surgery, will be home any day now and will be back performing public duties by Easter. I really don't know why some people are expecting daily bulletins and photos of her children going in and out of the hospital. And all this 'concern' seems to be a mask for prurience and salivating for any signs that this could be something serious and gossip worthy.

KC was probably not even planning to make the operation public in the first place it’s so minor. He only did so I believe to deflect - out of kindness.

It’s pretty insulting to suggest anyone is ‘salivating’ at the prospect of serious illness or harm to Kate. People are concerned, and for most people I imagine that comes from a very sincere place. I am sorry your own life is riddled with cynicism and gossips, and you are projecting on here, but for the rest of us we just want to hear she is okay!

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 14:30

I hope someone is keeping the sussexes away, I can’t imagine the ways they would monetise this situation.

hopeishere · 28/01/2024 14:36

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 12:58

Kate’s parents and siblings will most definitely be visiting her, I would expect to see them arrive, flowers in hand and bright and breezily saying Kate is doing well would be the standard protocol. Possibly followed by photos of the children with homemade cards etc.

The fact they haven’t been able to do this - and there is very clearly a media blackout is now very uncomfortable for those of us that care about Kate, and waiting to hear how she is.

This whole thing from start to finish has been very strained and clearly something serious has happened. I feel so sorry for Kate, because she will hate being away from her beautiful children for this long and will want to be at home with them.

I think her parents will have visited but through a private entrance. Depending on how she's doing kids might visit but probably FaceTime.

I think there will be a short announcement when she's home along the lines of she's home, went well, recuperating.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 14:42

hopeishere · 28/01/2024 14:36

I think her parents will have visited but through a private entrance. Depending on how she's doing kids might visit but probably FaceTime.

I think there will be a short announcement when she's home along the lines of she's home, went well, recuperating.

I worked in PR for years in younger times, and this has been extraordinarily badly handled. You would think there would be a clear up operation by now, instead the speculation only increases as the silence continues. I can’t imagine what is going on to cause such a major misstep.

The right thing to do would be to release a statement sooner rather than later, as anyone would tell you in the industry - end the speculation, control the narrative. The fact they haven’t done this is not a good sign actually.

hopeishere · 28/01/2024 14:48

I work in PR now.

How has it been badly handled? They issued a statement saying she will be in for 10-14 days. They'll issue one once she has been discharged.

Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 14:55

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 13:54

KC was probably not even planning to make the operation public in the first place it’s so minor. He only did so I believe to deflect - out of kindness.

It’s pretty insulting to suggest anyone is ‘salivating’ at the prospect of serious illness or harm to Kate. People are concerned, and for most people I imagine that comes from a very sincere place. I am sorry your own life is riddled with cynicism and gossips, and you are projecting on here, but for the rest of us we just want to hear she is okay!

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All of your posts are dripping with eagerness to believe it is bad news. When people point out that there is no evidence of this you get angry, annoyed or defensive. And your last comment really only deserves to be ignored.

Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 14:58

hopeishere · 28/01/2024 14:48

I work in PR now.

How has it been badly handled? They issued a statement saying she will be in for 10-14 days. They'll issue one once she has been discharged.

Exactly. I also used to work in PR, and sometimes silence is the best policy. As we have seen from some posters on this thread, any statement would be devoured eagerly for any sign that there is something sinister going on - Every word over analysed, every sentence twisted to mean something else. I think the Palace are right to just keep a dignified silence.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 28/01/2024 15:12

No PP are right - “normal service” would be Kates mum and dad, possibly sister as well, being seen going to visit. Possibly refusing to comment on her health when leaving, but be seen, as Camilla has been seen visiting the King.

The wider Middleton clan have not avoided being seen with Kate/being linked to the Royals in the past. To suddenly insist on private entry seems odd. If it’s a new palace protocol, Camila should also have been using less public door as well.

It’s all very odd. And not great PR for William when “devoted husband and father” is a big part of his brand. You’d think if he was visiting, someone in his PR team would say he needs to be seen.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 15:14

Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 14:55

All of your posts are dripping with eagerness to believe it is bad news. When people point out that there is no evidence of this you get angry, annoyed or defensive. And your last comment really only deserves to be ignored.

Oh do change the record, nothing is ‘dripping’ Jesus!

Serenster · 28/01/2024 15:17

It’s all very odd. And not great PR for William when “devoted husband and father” is a big part of his brand. You’d think if he was visiting, someone in his PR team would say he needs to be seen.

Of course, it’s possible he is more concerned about his wife’s health and his children’s wellbeing than his PR image right now.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/01/2024 15:17

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 15:14

Oh do change the record, nothing is ‘dripping’ Jesus!

Yes it is.

Drip drip drip.

Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 15:20

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 15:14

Oh do change the record, nothing is ‘dripping’ Jesus!

Your posts are. Seriously, you say you are 'concerned' 'worried' etc about Kate but are also putting the absolute worst interpretation on every thing. An unnamed 'source' said Kate will bounce back. You manage to make that sound sinister. Her children haven't been papped going in and out to the hospital. Oh dear, Kate must be extremely unwell. And so on.
That really isn't coming across as genuine concern, more as an eagerness to believe the absolute worst.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 15:22

hopeishere · 28/01/2024 14:48

I work in PR now.

How has it been badly handled? They issued a statement saying she will be in for 10-14 days. They'll issue one once she has been discharged.

The messaging has been entirely inconsistent - a ‘planned’
operation that required Kate’s entire diary to be cancelled at the last minute doesn’t seem very orderly or ‘well planned’

The princess is doing ‘well’ statement stopped very short of any serious reassurance leading most of the public to believe things were not terribly well.

Camilla seen visiting KC in public, apart from a photo in a car, we haven’t seen anyone visit Kate. Surely Camilla should have followed the same logic - no visitors or similar.

The statement that they were shielding the children as understandable as that might be, only fuelled speculation that Kate was gravely ill, prompting another report from BP that it was ‘not cancerous’

The deflection tactics in the shape of King Charles’ minor operation and Fergie’s skin cancer have not worked, as kind as it was for both to try - and instead backfired and created more problems.

The list goes on……

Now William apparently has ‘Covid’ and let’s be frank that is pretty unlucky timing…..

Pretty rubbish in conclusion.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 15:23

Belinda5 · 28/01/2024 15:20

Your posts are. Seriously, you say you are 'concerned' 'worried' etc about Kate but are also putting the absolute worst interpretation on every thing. An unnamed 'source' said Kate will bounce back. You manage to make that sound sinister. Her children haven't been papped going in and out to the hospital. Oh dear, Kate must be extremely unwell. And so on.
That really isn't coming across as genuine concern, more as an eagerness to believe the absolute worst.

I follow my instincts at all times.

Serenster · 28/01/2024 15:32

The messaging has been entirely inconsistent - a ‘planned’
operation that required Kate’s entire diary to be cancelled at the last minute doesn’t seem very orderly or ‘well planned’

You don’t know what “planned” means in this context, then? It means “not an emergency”.

A medical condition can suddenly become acute, and the need for an operation identified fairly urgently, and it can be scheduled to take place within a day or two. That is still “planned” surgery.

meercat23 · 28/01/2024 15:33

Where did you see he news that Prince William has covid? The sun is reporting that he has visited every day. I read that elsewhere too.

Oh an yes I know the sun may not be the most reliable but it is probably also one of the papers most likely to tell any juicy tales if there were any to tell.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 15:34

Serenster · 28/01/2024 15:32

The messaging has been entirely inconsistent - a ‘planned’
operation that required Kate’s entire diary to be cancelled at the last minute doesn’t seem very orderly or ‘well planned’

You don’t know what “planned” means in this context, then? It means “not an emergency”.

A medical condition can suddenly become acute, and the need for an operation identified fairly urgently, and it can be scheduled to take place within a day or two. That is still “planned” surgery.

It’s not great is it… a play on the word planning.

Serenster · 28/01/2024 15:39

It’s not great is it… a play on the word planning.

It’s literally the term used by medical experts.

And while the need for the surgery may have arisen very quickly, it appears it wasn’t a medical emergency and the Palace were keen to ensure that that that message was given. Along with the clarification given to journalists that it wasn’t a situation of cancer. So, while taking care to safeguard the Princess’ privacy they wanted to clarify that her situation was clearly serious but not a crisis.

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 28/01/2024 15:43

hopsalong · 28/01/2024 10:12

I've never commented on anything to do with the RF before. I didn't watch the coronation. I'm always surprised by how interested people are in what they wear and do on a day to day basis.

But here I am on this thread because this situation is fucking disturbing and odd, and the total media blackout (combined with odd little daggers, like the Chris Ship tweet about William visiting once - but not again) makes it all the more so. Is she there? Not there? There since Dec 28? If she had abdominal surgery almost two weeks ago, why would there be no update by now? But if she didn't have abdominal surgery and it's all a big ruse to conceal an eating disorder or domestic violence then, again, why wouldn't there be a (fake) update?

The press were very quiet when the Queen was dying. Normally they're all over everything. I fear it is something very serious.

Totally agree

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 28/01/2024 15:59

dyspraadhauwtaf63 · 28/01/2024 13:05

I genuinely think that if Kate was seriously ill then Charles would have postponed his op . The fact that Camilla has been seen smiling and Charles looked relaxed suggests that Kate is on the mend . Family will be visiting through back entrance I would have thought.

Yes I think you’re right, and also the PPs - it’s more than likely a media blackout around HRH after what tragically happened with that poor nurse. And also for her privacy. Like you say, Camilla coming and going and smiling - this says “nothing to see here, business as usual.”

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whiteshutters · 28/01/2024 16:09

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 28/01/2024 15:12

No PP are right - “normal service” would be Kates mum and dad, possibly sister as well, being seen going to visit. Possibly refusing to comment on her health when leaving, but be seen, as Camilla has been seen visiting the King.

The wider Middleton clan have not avoided being seen with Kate/being linked to the Royals in the past. To suddenly insist on private entry seems odd. If it’s a new palace protocol, Camila should also have been using less public door as well.

It’s all very odd. And not great PR for William when “devoted husband and father” is a big part of his brand. You’d think if he was visiting, someone in his PR team would say he needs to be seen.

God almighty the minds of some people. They should do this, they should do that. If one does this then the other should. Maybe his PR Team don't need to blast out everything he is doing unlike some others.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 16:15

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 28/01/2024 15:43

Totally agree

I agree too.

MrsFinkelstein · 28/01/2024 16:35

Newchapterbeckons · 28/01/2024 15:22

The messaging has been entirely inconsistent - a ‘planned’
operation that required Kate’s entire diary to be cancelled at the last minute doesn’t seem very orderly or ‘well planned’

The princess is doing ‘well’ statement stopped very short of any serious reassurance leading most of the public to believe things were not terribly well.

Camilla seen visiting KC in public, apart from a photo in a car, we haven’t seen anyone visit Kate. Surely Camilla should have followed the same logic - no visitors or similar.

The statement that they were shielding the children as understandable as that might be, only fuelled speculation that Kate was gravely ill, prompting another report from BP that it was ‘not cancerous’

The deflection tactics in the shape of King Charles’ minor operation and Fergie’s skin cancer have not worked, as kind as it was for both to try - and instead backfired and created more problems.

The list goes on……

Now William apparently has ‘Covid’ and let’s be frank that is pretty unlucky timing…..

Pretty rubbish in conclusion.

As a Nurse I have to clarify because you seem really unaware of the terms "planned" & "emergency" when it comes to surgery.

Emergency is: straight from eg. A&E, and is usually because its imminently life threatening. To delay surgery by even a few hours would mean significant mortality or morbidity. The patient hasn't been fasted and often the full history of the patient may not be known by the staff involved. There's often not even time to get the patient cross-matched and any immediate blood transfusion required will be the emergency bags of O Neg kept in the fridge.

Planned is any surgery where there is a degree of pre-arrangment. ie., the patient can be reviewed fully by the relevant HCP team involved. Pre-surgical tests can be done & the patient can be fasted & fully prepared for theatre. For example by DD had acute appendicitis 1yr ago. She was diagnosed with an appendix that was starting to rupture at 2pm on the Thursday, started on IV antibiotics and fasted from midnight (there was a side issue of her clotting factors going off, needing plasma and then having a severe allergic reaction to that) she was planned for surgery at 10am but actually got done at 2pm. It was an acute condition that was deteriorating but her surgery was planned. Planned from the day before but still planned.

I think people are confusing "planned" with "elective" surgery. Elective surgery is that which is planned weeks if not months before and is chosen by the patient, it's often not for a life threatening condition but often increase quality of life.

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