Princess of Wales ad family

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Wishing, Princess Kate a speedy and full recovery from me and my family.
Looking forward to Kate and William doing their bit for the UK soon.
A great family that is adored around the world.

OP can you edit the title of your post. It says 'ad' instead of 'and'.
It's really bugging me and I cannot understand why we're 36 pages in and you still haven't corrected it.

I don't think Andrew and Fergie are shacked up together. They just occupy separate suites of rooms in a huge building. They're seen together because they're friends.

I’m not nitpicking. I am answering your questions/points. And where have I questioned your eloquence? I’m answering the cases you have cited with some logic. You say trapped, I say they all escaped and went on to live their lives as divorced women. And I will add, in the cases of Diana and Harry, they went making a big old noise, which hardly suggests anyone was trying to silence them either. Why should I produce my own conjecture or gossip on the state of other royals’ marriages, when I am not the one making the proposal that the women are all trying to escape? That’s for you to prove. You are basically asking me to prove a negative. Anyway, I do agree with you that this conversation is tedious, I’m happy to end it.

Honestly if you and MrsFinkelstein and others were so genuinely concerned about the privacy and mh of the RF then you wouldn’t be supporting a system that puts them all in such an intolerable and invidious position.

Please don't make assumptions about me. I don't do that about you.

seeing as you mentioned it. there have been 100's of threads about "other royal couples" yet no cries of not in the spirit.

Again, extreme suggestions of "all escaped" - you have no idea if they did, you have no idea if others feel the same way and feel they cannot leave. You have no idea if there were attempts to silence them.
I also have no idea - that's the point!

seeing as you mentioned it. there have been 100's of threads about "other royal couples" yet no cries of not in the spirit.

On those threads I have read literally hundreds of comments on those lines Samcro

Not from the same posters complaining about this one.

There's been repeated cries of not in the spirit on all those threads too, as you know perfectly well.

Not from the same posters complaining about this one.

Yes, and the posters complaining on those threads are now defending the content on this one.

Please don't make assumptions about me. I don't do that about you.

Apologies MrsMingleton. I made the assumption from your comments that you are a royalist?

On the broader point about the role of the monarchy I think we can all see that the Royal Family are struggling right now to cover all the bases with both the King and Princess of Wales being unwell and William being indisposed for personal reasons. Although Camilla, Princess Anne, Edward and Sophie continue to carry out Royal duties they are now spread very thin and have not been able to offer up the 'big beasts' for some occasions. This goes back to the impact of the Harry and Meghan rift where we are led to believe some of William's anger was based on having less people to share the rosters of duty/appearances and more of the burden falling on him and Kate. So I think recent events call into question the capacity of the family to continue perform the current ceremonial duties expected of them. Even if Charles were well, he and Camilla are getting older and would have to keep expectations manageable. I recall being at a Buckingham Palace reception for all the charities that had the Queen and Princess Alexandra (now very aged) as patrons and there was hundreds present.

I wonder if the Beckhams could help out?

Your extreme suggestion is that there are all these royal women terrified and trapped in their marriages - read your own posts back. So to use your hyperbole, and the examples you cited I pointed out they all divorced and went on to live their lives free of their marriages, ie “escaped” from their terrified entrapment in marriage. What do you mean I have no idea if they did? I have no idea if they divorced? I have no idea if they had other lovers, careers, other marriages, travelled and partied around the world ? It’s all a matter of public record, fgs.

No I don’t have an idea about other current or past marriages, but I am not the one proposing a positive, ie that there are a bunch of royal women trapped in their marriages. That’s not my proposal to prove or disprove, that is yours.

@MsForgetful - I’m not “all over the threads” - I post quite often but hardly prolifically. And, anyway, do you keep a log of everyone’s posts? Odd.

Yes, if forced I would reveal myself (!) because I know I have not and would not wish harm on people of whom I don’t approve - and in fact provide an amusing distraction. There is a huge difference between calling out cheeky entitled arses and rubbing one’s hands in the hope that a woman is on her last legs or is suffering domestic abuse.

There is a huge difference between calling out cheeky entitled arses and rubbing one’s hands in the hope that a woman is on her last legs or is suffering domestic abuse.

Can you point to the posts where anyone is wishing KM ill? Absolutely no one is!

No one on this thread is rubbing their hands hoping Kate is on her last legs
Why do people imagine such a thing. It's just goading to say that
Whatever Kate is going through I hope she is getting stronger day by day

There has been some interesting posts about the structure of the monarchy and the profound effect it has on women who marry in

Your extreme suggestion is that there are all these royal women terrified and trapped in their marriages -

but I havent said "all these royal women" are "terrified"!

What do you mean I have no idea if they did? I have no idea if they divorced? I have no idea if they had other lovers, careers, other marriages, travelled and partied around the world ? It’s all a matter of public record, fgs.

Again, I didn't say you had no idea what they did after escaping!
Rather that you have no idea if they "all escaped" - that is my point (again). I havent said "all these royal women terrified" - I've suggested that things might not all be rosy, and probably arent! Which is likely in many long marriages with kids and with health issues and family feuds.
Again, you have no idea how many did or didn't escape - people not escaping isnt on the "public record, fgs." You have no idea if any of them were attempted to be silenced.

You have no idea about any of it apart from what we're told.
I have no idea about any of it apart from what we're being told.

I am therefore mulling over things that it "could" be - as are many many many people on this thread and on sm in general.
As I've said - again - I am pro RF in general. I hope they ARE all happy and blissful.

There is a huge difference between calling out cheeky entitled arses and rubbing one’s hands in the hope that a woman is on her last legs or is suffering domestic abuse.

Once again @MaturingCheeseball you offer up a hypothetical situation rather than speak to what is actually happening here, which is comparable to how you speak about Harry and Meghan. Nobody is hoping Kate is on her last legs and its disingenuous to use examples that aren't happening. If you can come here and tell people their posting isn't ok, if another thread is saying we are here being nasty, unhinged and vile, then you have to expect your own posts to be scrutinised or used as examples of your hypocrisy.

I was referring to your very specific list of names:

Diana, Fergie, Margaret, Meghan, Harry

And I added in Anne. A woman married and divorced and married again - no entrapment.

I'll add in The Duchess Of Kent, divorced in the early 1990s, another woman that escaped, eh?

So who else are you talking about? Who else is left? Who else is/was under the thumb of the RF and can't/couldn't leave?

Elizabeth, married to her rock? Sophie, in a seemingly solid marriage, and bugger all stopping her from going if she wanted to? Eugenie, Beatrice, Zara? All none working royals with careers who married who they want to and can do what they like. Which other married, royal women, under the thumb of the RF, are on your unhappy radar?

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Ask for examples, I list a few, then it's referred to as a very specific list.

Anyway, I do agree with you that this conversation is tedious, I’m happy to end it.
But continues rewording my posts and overanalysing every word.

I pray you are less demanding in rl conversations, and hope if your friends are chatting about their opinions that you don't rewind and go over each thing like you're Jessica Fletcher trying to catch them out. It's bonkers.

I think that’s a personal attack. The resort of someone without an argument. You don’t have any other royal women to refer to in your argument. You replied to me when I said let’s end the conversation, so don’t complain.

And you’re not my friend irl, just someone online with an unpleasant and unfounded POV on a discussion forum, so no need to worry about my personal relationships. Besides, I have extremely intelligent friends who can deal with robust conversation.

so its ok to have 100's of threads about one royal but not another.
when I see you complaining about the others, I will agree with you, until then its a bit hypocritical.

I'm still waiting for an apology after being falsely accused of making nasty comments about Meghan .