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Wishing, Princess Kate a speedy and full recovery from me and my family.
Looking forward to Kate and William doing their bit for the UK soon.
A great family that is adored around the world.

nice that the moment someone posts anything not fawning about PW they get rounded on.
I don't pay for the RF, but I still thinkPW is lazy. he has loads of staff, has many breaks. so even if he needed to step back this time, his past behaviour makes it look like he was just being lazy.

The difference being jeffgoldblum that I am not in a role funded by public money.

You know this is really getting ridiculous.

The last time I looked we lived in a democratic country where free speech and differing opinions were allowed to be aired without six people each time combatting the point.

Where else is a Republican allowed to post except the Royal threads? I stand by my right to do so and I maintain my position that PW takes a lot of time off. I never said his job was easy. I even listed all the things that make up his job. I try and be polite although it’s getting increasingly difficult on here.

And you all think it’s ok to ask a Mumsnet poster if they are on benefits because they happen to hold a different viewpoint to your own?

I don't see the logic of this post. Did it need a bit better sentence construction and punctuation to explain what you really meant?

@Fringepolitics294 many people here will throw stones and then hide their hands. Just leave them to it.

That wasn’t why I asked it as well you know.

I asked because you were questioning another’s work ethic and their use of taxpayer money.

If you are prepared to ask that question of someone else, then to complain if someone asks it if you is unfair.

If someone works part time because of their children’s age - superb. Couldn’t be happier. But then why criticise someone else for doing likewise? Lucky people for being in that position or being able to accommodate that. My other sibling was not but held no grudge towards others that had that luxury.

Likewise if they have a family member who is unwell. We should be able to provide care for those we love if we want to.

I know what I asked. You are not taking my reason for that question and indeed have made it about something else entirely.

I am not here to argue either.

And I won’t be.

And you all think it’s ok to ask a Mumsnet poster if they are on benefits because they happen to hold a different viewpoint to your own?

You are still willfully misunderstanding the question, @Fringepolitics294 or pretending you are. You have seen the explanations for the question, which have nothing to do with telling people on benefits they can't have a different opinion. Once again, it is about the rights of anyone, whether or not they live under the taxpayer's coin, to have a private life.

Ditto. The state pension is a benefit - a contributory benefit as opposed to a non-contributory benefit, but my contributions didn't cover the amount I get now from the tax-payer. Mind you, I also pay a small amount of tax!
This week I sat on my bum and didn't make any attempt to job-seek, but I did manage to do a few jobs between bouts of selling my soul to SM.

@upinaballoon didn't realise you were the English language teacher on MN. I hope this sentence is grammatically correct for you 👀

Everyone is entitled to post their opinions, everyone is entitled to reply to said posts , no one gets a free pass , to post whatever they like and not get feedback, it's not the way sm works .

Yes I am just coming to realise that, thank you skullbabe and Samcro. 💐😀

I think I will leave them to it. Not really worth the agitation.

And I might add , I get fed up with being called a monarchist " cabal " or whatever the next phrase is , I'm apathetic about the royals always have been , I didn't follow them watch their weddings or tune into anything on tv about them .
I'm here now for ( ironically!) the same reason given by many pro H&M posters , because I don't like the nasty bullying posts made constantly about the royals!

yet you and others do it all the time about H&M.

Well, after my name, I would like to have seen the word 'I', so it read "I didn't realise......et cetera, and I think there should be a full stop after 'you' and before the eyes emoji.

I don't think your grammar was wanting in your earlier post, but it sounded as if you were saying that people who defend William think he is work-shy and I don't think that is what you meant, although it might have been.

(The reason why I write et cetera out in full is because I'm a pensioner and have time to, and also because so many people write ect, quite incorrectly, and if I write it in full someone might cotton on quietly. This is teaching English, well Latin really, by stealth and example.)

I'm a big lover of the comma. There aren't enough about in my opinion. Used in the right places, they help the sense of a sentence.

I would like you @Samcro , to find one bullying post I've made about H&M !
Just one ! By me not any one else ( I'm not other posters!)
I will wait!

@losingtheplot999 Haha the panda that eats, shoots and leaves 😄. Yrs ago DS1 annoyed me by writing ect. In vain I tried to explain that it was et cetera, and before I reached the point of saying therefore it had to be etc, he jumped in, claiming that it was OK to use the abbreviation. We went round this loop several times, and I was completely unable to get across the fact that I was correcting the order of the letters, not being sniffy about an abbreviation. I hope he's xorted it out now, as he has both a first degree and a masters in English Lit.

Still waiting!

Some posters seem to perceive any criticism of Harry and/or Meghan as bullying.

Personally, when people choose to publicise their words and actions, then it is valid to have an opinion on those words and actions. The same with any person choosing to be in the public eye.

Information about Harry's flying visit was put out by his office, he could have got discreetly on a plane if he just wanted to see his father. So, the message I am reading is that he wanted it known so it can be discussed.

i can't trawl through the 100's of threads. but you are saying that there are bullying threads about the RF, so if I am wrong and you have never posted a bullying post about H&M, Can I ask why it is ok to have 100's of posts and threads bullying them, but not ok for people to question PW work ethic?

Now you know that wasn't the question @Samcro , you stated that I , me , personally posted bullying posts about m&h and I'm awaiting proof of this accusation!
Now I know I haven't and I never name change so all you need to do is search my posts .
You cannot prove an accusation by saying " oh well there are lots of posts that are bullying so law of averages means you must of made some of them , it doesn't work that way .

Commas, yes. Comma splices, no. Alas such things are becoming more and more common. It reminds me of when my children were small, and thought everything could be mended with sellotape. Commas are like sellotape: they can be used to join some things, but sometimes you have to use screws or nails aka full stops, semi colons or participles.

jeffgoldblum · Today 10:47

And I might add , I get fed up with being called a monarchist " cabal " or whatever the next phrase is , I'm apathetic about the royals always have been , I didn't follow them watch their weddings or tune into anything on tv about them .
I'm here now for ( ironically!) the same reason given by many pro H&M posters , because I don't like the nasty bullying posts made constantly about the royals!

I also get tired of the sneery jibes at anyone who doesn't actively hate the monarchy! I very rarely see really nasty stuff about H & M on these boards. I appreciate it's our there, but not usually on MN. Valid criticism based on people's actions and words are one thing, but then there are the insulting assumptions. I know I'm probably guilty of a bit of unconscious or confirmation bias, but even so.

I think people fall into these categories, broadly:

1.People who absolutely hate the monarchy, on a political and personal level, to the point of demonstrating against it.
2.People who don't hate, but are critical of the system of constitutional monarchy in a calm, non-personal-attack kind of way.
3.People who don't give a (fill in your own expletive here) either way.
4.People who are mildly supportive of the monarchy, perhaps think a constitutional monarchy is the least worst of available options but are open to a bit of fair criticism. Also happy to see things slimmed down.
5.People who adore the monarch and RF, buy souvenirs and camp out on The Mall.

I'm a No. 4 and agree with those who deplore Prince Andrew's conduct. The difference is that I suspect there's a limit to what KC can actually legally do to him, since he hasn't been convicted of an offence in this country. I don't think there's any love lost between them. I'm dismayed at what H & M have done since their marriage in terms of causing pain and embarrassment to individuals and in making the UK look bad on the world stage.

From what I've read over the last year or so, I'd say most RF-supporters on MN fall into category 4 rather than 5...I think most of us have much more pressing things to think about than to 'tug our forelocks' all the time.

Ok - against my better judgment - I’ll bite.

I hope I qualify as no.2 in your categories CoffeeCantata - as it happens I have agreed with quite a few of your posts in the past.

To be clear the “cabal” comment refers to what it feels like to be rounded on here for having different views to the majority. I can’t speak for Roussette but I imagine she often feels the same way too.

Of course I don’t object to having the content of my posts challenged as that makes for a good discussion and is how sm works.

But what I object to are personal
sneers like “are you on benefits?” or being told I am “clearly someone who wants a fight” or that I am “deliberately misinterpreting” a point when if you look back I have been moderate and polite in my comments.

Why not just address the question, which was whether the Prince of Wales takes too much time off work?

Perhaps it’s my turn to ask if this is deliberate deflection from the matter in hand?

~which takes me to Jeffgoldblum’s discussion with Samcro:

you say you don’t like “the nasty bullying posts made constantly about the royals!” and that’s understandable, and I believe you, but can you tell me where the long-standing republicans on here have made that sort of comment? There may be the odd random nasty comment but I don’t see them coming from the regular Republican posters who stick to reasoned arguments and on the whole don’t engage in personal attacks.

I'm not going to name names fringe , it's not just frowned upon but against guidelines!
And referring to other posts from other threads is also against guidelines!

But they are there if you look and the names rarely change.

And referring to other posts from other threads is also against guidelines!

That didn't stop a group of you doing exactly that to me yesterday.

What me personally?