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Desperate2023 · 18/01/2024 10:03

Wishing, Princess Kate a speedy and full recovery from me and my family.
Looking forward to Kate and William doing their bit for the UK soon.
A great family that is adored around the world.

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wordler · 08/02/2024 17:52

I'm not holding my breath for an online accounting any time soon though if the speed at which the Royal Family website gets updated is anything to go by - it's achingly slow - and I build and edit websites so I know it's not a technical problem based on the simplicity of the site. And we know they have huge communications offices, so it can't be a staffing problem.

Roussette · 08/02/2024 17:53

But it would be nice to see these figures all produced clearly on a public website on a yearly basis so we all know what is going on.

Indeed it would. I read the yearly Royal Report but it's like wading through treacle.

Fringepolitics294 · 08/02/2024 17:58

ArcaneWireless · 08/02/2024 16:29

I was funded by the taxpayer in my first career and am in this one.

I’ve never taken time off (bar leave quota) in either position in very many years. I regularly worked/work 70 odd hour weeks -sometimes (rarely) more.

The extra cover I provide on top of my own hours is usually to cover for sick leave, childcare reasons and compassionate leave.

Recent events at home mean that I just might have to do the same as PW briefly and although I’m managing at the moment, I give not one shiny one if someone says that I should be working instead of looking after either parent because taxpayers think so.

If the average is, for example, 5 days sick/off a year, then PW can have my share if we are all under the taxpayer umbrella.

@AliceOlivehas made excellent points in her posts. Read those.

Of course you should take time off ArcaneWireless! And I’m sorry to hear that your circumstances dictate that it may be necessary. But let’s not pretend that your situation is remotely the same as the PoW who has about sixty staff! Also funded by taxpayers!

Fringepolitics294 · 08/02/2024 18:04

Serenster · 08/02/2024 16:41

Compassionate leave (which covers this kind of situation) has been a benefit at the discretion of your line manager at every job I’ve had, both public and private sector.

I once had a team member take 2 weeks’ leave which they flexed over a month by working half- days from home. we don’t know William hasn’t been doing that, do we? He’s just not done public appearances.

I was VERY careful to say that it was understandable if his wife’s illness was serious Serenster.
And if that’s the case then of course he should have compassionate leave like anyone else. Even though he has probably x10 more support at home than any of us!

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 08/02/2024 18:09

@ArcaneWireless Hope you are ok 💐

losingtheplot999 · 08/02/2024 21:32

Didn't realise you were entitled to compassionate leave if your wife had an operation and was recuperating. All those defending William just admit he is workshy it is getting embarrassing now.

Scoobyblue · 08/02/2024 22:22

I agree with @goodbyestranger and @losingtheplot999. William is coming across as lazy and workshy. No-one else would get away with compassionate leave in these circumstances and, with all the wealth and support he has at his disposal, he is more able than most to keep going with his obligations.

Iwillletthemkniw · 08/02/2024 22:25

ArcaneWireless · 08/02/2024 16:54

I’m sure if he was funded by the change I found down the back of my sofa, some would say it wasn’t good enough even then.

We don’t know what ails his wife, his dad has just been diagnosed with cancer and if no one can find a bit of compassion in their pocket for that then hell mend them.

Whenever I find myself nodding vigorously at a post and look at the poster it is very often you ArcaneWireless!

goodbyestranger · 08/02/2024 22:36

CoffeeCantata you say It's like people who think teachers work from 8 am to 3.30 pm. Or that barristers only work while they're in court (my son works 16 hour days)

I've not come across anyone saying that about barristers, ever. The teacher thing yes but barristers no.

AliceOlive · 08/02/2024 22:36

losingtheplot999 · 08/02/2024 21:32

Didn't realise you were entitled to compassionate leave if your wife had an operation and was recuperating. All those defending William just admit he is workshy it is getting embarrassing now.

I’m in US and one can definitely take FMLA for that. US, where we notoriously get no time off for anything.

Also, my DH has prob 90 days of leave built up for medical. And works for an org where people can donate their own leave to others for emergencies.

goodbyestranger · 08/02/2024 22:40

That's not my experience of the US AliceOlive, in a situation where our newborn was on the critical list in PICU and then with my next baby where I had a massive delayed PPH and was on the critical list myself (with a seventeen month old and a new born to be taken care of). And thousands of miles from relatives and any support. That was a little while ago though, I grant you.

jeffgoldblum · 08/02/2024 22:41

Scoobyblue · 08/02/2024 22:22

I agree with @goodbyestranger and @losingtheplot999. William is coming across as lazy and workshy. No-one else would get away with compassionate leave in these circumstances and, with all the wealth and support he has at his disposal, he is more able than most to keep going with his obligations.

See I find this odd because I don't agree at all ! , I find William concerned with his dad , wife and children, trying to carry on as best he can while people who have no clue what is going on , relentlessly criticise him! 🤷‍♀️

ArcaneWireless · 08/02/2024 22:43

And works for an org where people can donate their own leave to others for emergencies.

That is a super idea AliceOlive - life can certainly hoof you up the harris from time to time and it would be a lovely way to help out if it were needed.

AliceOlive · 08/02/2024 22:44

goodbyestranger · 08/02/2024 22:40

That's not my experience of the US AliceOlive, in a situation where our newborn was on the critical list in PICU and then with my next baby where I had a massive delayed PPH and was on the critical list myself (with a seventeen month old and a new born to be taken care of). And thousands of miles from relatives and any support. That was a little while ago though, I grant you.

That must have been terrifying. I am really happy things are changing here.

goodbyestranger · 08/02/2024 22:48

Thanks Alice. Agree that the idea of donating leave is excellent.

wordler · 08/02/2024 22:54

The county I live in the US used to let teachers donate their sick leave for colleagues so if someone got something longterm like cancer they could still get to appointments or have time off without penalty if they used up their own allowance.

They stopped it recently and my poor Dads favourite teacher had to continue to work through all her treatment schedule because she had used up her sick leave - there were dozens of colleagues who wanted to donate their leave to her but were not allowed to. Very sad.

But she can’t risk losing her job because then she’d lose her health insurance.

jeffgoldblum · 08/02/2024 22:56

That's shocking!!! , all of it !! , colleagues should not have to donate sick leave ( commendable but really!)? Companies should be responsible for sick leave . I'm shocked 😮

wordler · 08/02/2024 23:07

That should have been DDs favourite teacher not Dads!

wordler · 08/02/2024 23:11

Yeah - it's really awful part of the US society - the access to affordable care, and the availability of annual and sick leave.

However I was horrified to read the recent thread on MN about the NHS labour and delivery wards and how people are in labour in bays mixed in with pre and post-natal women. Women in for bed rest before giving birth being kept up all night by women screaming in labour pains - sounds like a 3rd world country.

All the hospital rooms near me are single rooms or double rooms - the birthing ward is all single private rooms where you labour and deliver without having to be moved.

wordler · 08/02/2024 23:11

Sorry for derail - please pivot back to topic!

jeffgoldblum · 08/02/2024 23:19

That was not my experience of giving birth ( twice!) , but I think it depends which hospital you go to .

Lookingatthesunset · 08/02/2024 23:37

I can't blame William for taking time out for his family while he still can!

He and Kate and George have so much onerous responsibility ahead of them - for life!

mrsmingleton · 09/02/2024 00:28

Roussette · 08/02/2024 17:53

But it would be nice to see these figures all produced clearly on a public website on a yearly basis so we all know what is going on.

Indeed it would. I read the yearly Royal Report but it's like wading through treacle.

Gee whizz that sounds like fun 😄

Gottseidank · 09/02/2024 01:56

Fringepolitics294 · 08/02/2024 16:00

Well because if you are funded by the taxpayer you have a responsibility to work really hard I think.

Do you apply that logic to people on benefits?

Fringepolitics294 · 09/02/2024 08:33

Gottseidank · 09/02/2024 01:56

Do you apply that logic to people on benefits?

Funnily enough no because people on benefits don’t tend to have numerous residences, servants, and be driven around by chauffeurs driving Land Rovers 🙄

Is no one getting the point? It’s not that hard to understand.

The RF have enormous privileges and huge wealth and sorry but they need to work hard to justify their exalted position.

I’m not someone who thinks that if you appear doing three charity visits a week there isn’t an enormous amount of background work that goes in to it. Of course there is. There’s agenda planning, briefings and speech writing and thank you letters, follow up action, transportation to the event, fittings for clothing, etc and that’s in addition to visits to various estates, official photos, state occasions like Trooping of the Colour and Remembrance Sunday plus all the fitness training to look good for the camera. Plus managing a Duchy. Plus your own staff and estate. It’s a lot .

BUT Is it really necessary to have such long Easter, summer and Christmas holidays? They have weeks and weeks!

I’m just comparing my dh’s life to Prince William’s. My dh has between three and four weeks holiday a year. And I know he is privileged to have that! And he doesn’t have loads of staff helping him with his job. He has punishing work trips. And he still manages to do it all and help at home and be a hands on dad. Sorry but the amount of time PW takes off is absurd.

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