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Iwasafool · 15/01/2024 17:41

LadyWhitwell · 15/01/2024 17:33

I guess all the anger issues in that family are inherited from the queen. Imagine being furious about a grand child's name.

That's not what she was supposed to be annoyed about. It seems she was either annoyed that they repeated a private conversation or they said the private conversation happened when it didn't.

PinkFrogss · 15/01/2024 17:43

This was the angriest he’s ever seen her? Well I hope he wasn’t an aide for very long then and/or didn’t have much contact with the Queen, otherwise she doesn’t come out of this looking any better.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/01/2024 17:44

Lilibet is quite an old fashioned name

It's not any kind of name. It'a a nickname used for one woman by a handful of people until June 2021.

ASGIRC · 15/01/2024 17:44

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:41

I’m not aware it is weird to be honest, I call one of my own grandparents a different version of his name too.

People come up with all sorts of weird and wonderful names for their grandparents, especially today when grandma etc is seen as a bit stuffy.

Call a grandparents Nanny vs calling them Queenie or Glammie or a cute version of their name is all the same. It’s the name the child grows up with, they don’t know it’s not traditional and it doesn’t change how they view their grandparents, to them it’s just their name. As in, they don’t see it as a nickname, it’s just their name. Or to be honest, all grand parental names are nicknames.

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Sure, for the child it is not weird at all.
But if you look at what your peers called their grandparents or what your kids peers call theirs, I think you will find that the VAST majority will call them a variation of grandmother/father, as opposed to a variation of their actual name.

I have also had a school friend that called her parents by their name. It was normal for her, but it was not the norm!

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:45

Itslegitimatesalvage · 15/01/2024 17:35

I’m staggered by the repeated poor reading comprehension. Posters saying they think less of the Queen for being angry over the name? The article doesn’t say that!!!

She was angry that they reported a private conversation to the press. That’s what the article says. The OP didn’t understand that and apparently, most of the population can’t read either.

If you care enough to have any thoughts about the Queen then it’s ridiculous to change that opinion because she didn’t like yet another private conversation being made public.

But she was incensed enough to go to the press and say to them not to say they had her permission - it’s just as petty and pathetic to me. They didn’t need her permission.

Other people have been called Lilibet before the late Queen. And for her to make it very clear that they hadn’t had permission is a clear way of putting up a divide. It’s really petty.

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:46

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:45

But she was incensed enough to go to the press and say to them not to say they had her permission - it’s just as petty and pathetic to me. They didn’t need her permission.

Other people have been called Lilibet before the late Queen. And for her to make it very clear that they hadn’t had permission is a clear way of putting up a divide. It’s really petty.

Lilibet was used before it was a personal nickname for the late Queen? Really?.

Nightowl1234 · 15/01/2024 17:46

Not everyone who dislikes H&M are racists. But every racist dislikes H&M.

Maybe those who are fixated on their hatred of H&M should think about the other type of people in their hate club.

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:47

Not every criticism of a person is hate.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/01/2024 17:47

OrganicCamomileTea · 15/01/2024 17:41

I must admit that I was absolutely stunned when I heard they'd called their daughter Lillibet. It's not a name suitable for an adult (which she will very soon be), it's a cute little childish nickname born out of a toddler's inability to pronounce "Elizabeth". It's like a child saying "Huppy" when they're trying to say Humphrey or "Lillalella" for Isobella.

I thought their use of that very personal family nickname as a given name was quite bizarre. To me it's as if they'd called her "loopyloo" or "nappypoo" or any other little personal family-only nickname!

It’s not a name suitable for an adult which she soon will be.

Soon will b? She’s only 2 years old.
Not only that but plenty of people have names which would probably now more suited to a child but are we all meant to only nAme our kids serious names like Judith and Mildred.

Yiayoula · 15/01/2024 17:48

MalagaNights · 15/01/2024 17:38

I presume they thought it was a cute name, they seem to like the fashion for cutsie names.

And I presume they thought it would look like a loving tribute to the queen.

But to many people it looks like a thoughtless crass move of using something deeply personal to an old lady, who your relationship is strained with, and where the only people ever close enough to use the pet childhodd name have all died.

The fact so many peopl winced and thought how crass and unkind, I'm sure wasn't their intention. I'm sure they thought eveyone whould think, how sweet and how especially close to the Queen they must be.

It's just another example of their extraordinary inability to understand how they come across or how their behaviour will be interpreted.
It's quite staggering how they just get everything so wrong.

This, exactly .

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:48

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:46

Lilibet was used before it was a personal nickname for the late Queen? Really?.

Yes. There is a famous American woman called Lilibet who was born several decades ago.

PinkFrogss · 15/01/2024 17:48

It's not any kind of name. It'a a nickname used for one woman by a handful of people until June 2021.

Its definitely a name and nickname for more than one person, that’s easily disproven with a quick google. Although I didn’t realise the queens family stopped using that as a nickname for her, I hadn’t seen that anywhere?

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:49

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:48

Yes. There is a famous American woman called Lilibet who was born several decades ago.

Lilibet who?

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:50

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:49

Lilibet who?

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0827770/

You can do your own Googling you know?

Lilibet Stern | Actress

Known for: Wonder Woman, The Young and the Restless, Police Squad!

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0827770/

bombardelli · 15/01/2024 17:52

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/01/2024 17:44

Lilibet is quite an old fashioned name

It's not any kind of name. It'a a nickname used for one woman by a handful of people until June 2021.

Regardless, it’s old fashioned.

TheLogicalSong · 15/01/2024 17:52

"It was only ever used by her parents, King George VI, the Queen Mother, and her sister, Princess Margaret, as well as her husband, Prince Philip, and a handful of close friends."

So, quite a few people then?

"Charles III: New King, New Court. The Inside Story, by the Mail's writer Robert Hardman, currently being serialised exclusively in the Daily Mail."

Hmm. Take with a pinch of salt.

TerfTalking · 15/01/2024 17:53

Whether it’s true or not, I’m pretty sure in private that Liz wouldn’t have been happy considering MM was pregnant with Lilibet when they did the Oprah interview. It’s ridiculous to think that the Queen would have been “supportive”.

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:53

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:50

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0827770/

You can do your own Googling you know?

No need to be rude.
It was a genuine query.

OrganicCamomileTea · 15/01/2024 17:53

Branleuse · 15/01/2024 17:38

Wow, sounds like a really toxic grandparent doesn't it. Who would have ever expected your old nana would be furious over their grandchild naming their baby after them.

But they didn't name her Elizabeth. That would have been acceptable. Instead they used a private personal nickname.

Suppose, for example, that your name is Diana and as a child you were called Dideedodo by your sister and parents - and later by your husband, who used it as an affectionate pet name for you. Then, later in life one of your grandchildren more or less disowns you and your life's work and all you stand for and becomes estranged from you - and then a couple of years later he has a daughter and names her Dideedodo! Would you not be a bit miffed? I think I would be!

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:54

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:53

No need to be rude.
It was a genuine query.

It was a genuine question.

dottiedodah · 15/01/2024 17:55

This was ancient news surely? Well versed at the time ,the queen was upset by her childhood nickname being used without her say so .

Theunamedcat · 15/01/2024 17:55

I always thought it was odd they essentially copied Charlotte's name hers is Charlotte Elizabeth Diana they name their child lilibet (derived from Elizabeth) Diana just struck me as unoriginal

JaneJeffer · 15/01/2024 17:55

Ah come on now @TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage

Maireas · 15/01/2024 17:55

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:54

It was a genuine question.

Ok. Yes. I can do my own googling.
Actually Lilibet Stern did not come up but Lilibet Foster did.

TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage · 15/01/2024 17:56

JaneJeffer · 15/01/2024 17:55

Ah come on now @TheOnlyOneInTheMNVillage

Of course I’m being sarcastic. It’s daft to expect other people to do your running around for you because you can’t be bothered (not you obviously).

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