Queen's fury over naming of baby Lilibet: Aide says monarch was 'as angry as I'd ever seen her' after Harry and Meghan claim

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12962667/queen-elizabeth-II-fury-prince-harry-meghan-markle-baby-lilibet.html

I'm not surprised, choosing that name was so brazen

Or

😂😂Sums it all up perfectly.

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar - I’m generally not a fan of gifs or comedy but that Chased by Disgruntled Aviator - I am laughing out loud!!

Surely even the most fervent Supporter must see the teeniest bit of humour in that image?

Anisette · Today 10:11

I'm quite puzzled by the apparent perception amongst Prince Harry's supporters that, if you don't support everything he does, you must be frothing and hysterical. Do they not accept that it's possibly to hold a different opinion perfectly genuinely and after mature consideration?

I was team Harry-and-Meghan for quite a long time. I thought Meghan came over as, potentially, an intelligent woman who could contribute a lot to the Royal Family and the UK. The fact that she is mixed race is nothing but a bonus.

I know just what you mean, Anisette. I was so happy at the time of their wedding and thought it was a new chapter for the RF. I was very moved by the sight of Doria sitting there, having a quiet cry, during the ceremony and loved the way Charles held out his hand to her - especially since she was the only family member from Meghan's side. (Since then we've learned more about this lack of family presence, and it doesn't reflect well on H or M.)

But oh dear, it all went so wrong. Yes, Meghan was savaged by the press and some of its Neanderthal readers, but then so was Kate (not on racial grounds, but on grounds of class and for having such a long 'engagement'). They can be vile, for sure. It's one of the crosses the RF have to bear and they usually do without comment. But I genuinely doubt that any senior member of the RF or their staff would have been anything but thrilled at this great new chapter and PR opportunity.

It's such a tragic lost opportunity in so many ways. Over the years I've changed my view to conclude that Harry is dim, deluded and utterly entitled. I think Meghan is intelligent and has manipulated him, and the situation, to get what she wanted all along. She comes over as egotistical and attention-seeking, and that was probably one of the stumbling blocks to her fitting in to royal life. No reason why she should, of course, but that was the understanding at one time, and the reason for all the hoo-ha and the expensive wedding etc.

I don't hate them, and I don't froth. I think they're in a blind alley, though, career-wise, having burnt their bridges. I'm not bothered for their sakes but I feel sorry for those children - who, apart from anything else, only have Doria as a relation! If the marriage breaks down it will be really rotten for them too.

Oh I wouldn’t be too sure @MaturingCheeseball . Some of H and M supporters have had a sense of humour bypass ( a bit like H and M themselves !)

Anisette · Today 10:11

I'm quite puzzled by the apparent perception amongst Prince Harry's supporters that, if you don't support everything he does, you must be frothing and hysterical. Do they not accept that it's possibly to hold a different opinion perfectly genuinely and after mature consideration?

I am pretty old and don’t think I have ever frothed . What does it look like ??

Hilarious 😂

This apparently…

Maybe (maybe not).

The car park pap events continue apace.

TBH I did froth a bit when the name was originally announced. I thought it was so crass and manipulative and a cynical attempt to cement 'look how close we are to the Queeeeennnnnn in the eyes of the US public.

I'll own it.

Generally now though I don't froth- just eye roll at their utter numptiness.

Totally agree, @CoffeeCantata

Well said.

Peter Andre wants his legs back..

Ditto

Wait ... @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar isn't that a recreation of what Harry did to Charles in spare!!!! 😱

Yeah, when I go out jogging or walking I always plaster a stupid grin on my face. Everyone should.

@derxa "It's nothing to do with the Daily Mail."

Well, apart from the writer being a Mail journalist and the book being serialised in the paper-no, nothing to do with the Mail at all! 🤣

@CoffeeCantata I think a lot of us are the same as you. But the narrative is that we must all have been racist haters from the start (even those of us who are not white) and/or die hard, Prince Andrew loving monarchists. The truth is that most of us would have been delighted if M&H had stayed and flourished, deployed a sense of humour and perspective about any criticism, and showed in their actions that they are loving family members, not just in cheap words and faux "tributes".

Not quite. That was more like this.

Ahh my mistake @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar !!
Well done that's the one 😉🤣

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hardman
Here he is. You can tell by his scaly skin that he writes for the Mail. It's an irreversible condition. So is an obsession with the Daily Mail

I remember reading at the time that Harry blamed his father and brother for the queen rejecting his half in half out, as he was so used to playing the cheeky chappy with her and thinking she’d give him anything he wished, that he couldn’t accept it was her saying no. And it was.

there are also some misogyny in his comments on her, about him wanting to make sure she had the right people round her, or playing her off in spare as just sitting there doing nothing whilst his brother screamed at him and his father bullied him. There was an element of him viewing her as some old dear , rather than the very capable woman she was till the end.

i suspect naming his daughter lillibet, was to try to get back in her good books, and to ensure his daughter had that link for the American public.

either way, it is just another thing, in a long line of things, the pair of them have done, that was highly questionable at best, friggen stupid at worst.

Or the bloody whataboutary. It's perfectly normal to hold a view that H&M have behaved poorly and also think Andrew is beyond the pale and have doubts about monarchy (and it's transparency - or lack of re: power/influence and finances)

Most people aren't "on a side". They just see a general shit show where nobody comes out of it looking great (even HMQ re: her pandering to Andrew for all of her life)

Beautifully put, @BreadInCaptivity; this apparent need to allocate folk a "side" always seems a bit playground to me, but each to their own as ever

I'm also not sure how the Lilibet name thing is seen in any way as news. Admittedly the "angriest I've ever seen the Queen" is new, but wasn't it all mostly said at the time?

Where are his essential security?

A very good question @SoIdentifying 🧐