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Roussette · 16/01/2024 17:21

SoIdentifying · 16/01/2024 17:16

What do you mean? It is a known fact that there are NDAs - not the point. Or there are examples out there of the exact NDA that the Palace uses?

It's a known fact that there are NDAs, I have no idea what they say but the words Non Disclosure Agreement must mean 'not to disclose'

Roussette · 16/01/2024 17:22

So as you haven't seen one then you are guessing.

I give up. They sign one. I don't work there but I assume it means not to leak or gossip about what the Queen says. I don't think that is 'guessing'.

SoIdentifying · 16/01/2024 17:22

Roussette · 16/01/2024 17:21

It's a known fact that there are NDAs, I have no idea what they say but the words Non Disclosure Agreement must mean 'not to disclose'

Yes we knew this all along but you were confident that they were full of holes - almost as if you had seen one but I now get that you were bigging it up.

StuckintheRutt · 16/01/2024 17:23

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar

I think you will find lots of people have been called that by people with similar issues pronouncing the name.

SoIdentifying · 16/01/2024 17:23

Roussette · 16/01/2024 17:22

So as you haven't seen one then you are guessing.

I give up. They sign one. I don't work there but I assume it means not to leak or gossip about what the Queen says. I don't think that is 'guessing'.

Indeed you are surmising then.

Roussette · 16/01/2024 17:23

you were confident that they were full of holes

Yep. If they can talk about the Queen raging they must be full of holes!

That's 'disclosing'

FloofCloud · 16/01/2024 17:24

MaturingCheeseball · 15/01/2024 16:54

i don’t think for one second would I have called a child after the head of a family I had trashed and claimed I had escaped from to find freedom.

Sadly I think it was, if not a commercial move (the name was domained/trademarked ahead of the birth and before telling the Queen) then definitely a way to maintain a “royal relevance”.

Why two “Harry” names, anyway? No Doria, Meghan or any family names from Doria’s side?

Yes,yes and yes!
Plus they'd trashed /gone out to trash her family, business and reputation - now they steal her nickname that only a few called her - disrespectful and shoddy behaviour ... exactly what we've found to be the norm for M&H

Samcro · 16/01/2024 17:28

It’s funny, Harry shares stuff, dreadful, how dare he invade their privacy.
an unnamed aide who may or may not exist, shares something, every one believes it and says it’s fine.
odd

FloofCloud · 16/01/2024 17:31

Samcro · 16/01/2024 17:28

It’s funny, Harry shares stuff, dreadful, how dare he invade their privacy.
an unnamed aide who may or may not exist, shares something, every one believes it and says it’s fine.
odd

Well perhaps it's the only way the RF can debunk some of their lies

Roussette · 16/01/2024 17:34

FloofCloud · 16/01/2024 17:31

Well perhaps it's the only way the RF can debunk some of their lies

Or divert any stories they don't like

Samcro · 16/01/2024 17:35

FloofCloud · 16/01/2024 17:31

Well perhaps it's the only way the RF can debunk some of their lies

Or make up their own

FloofCloud · 16/01/2024 17:42

Harry already did that divert job himself with his ludicrous award story

lemmein · 16/01/2024 17:44

Itslegitimatesalvage · 15/01/2024 17:07

That article doesn’t say that the Queen was furious about the name choice. It says she was angry that they went to the press to say that the Queen had been supportive etc. Whatever the Queen’s reaction, it was in a private conversation, which Harry and Meghan then told to the press. Most of the family’s anger seems to be about private conversations being made public. That articles says the same; that the Queen was angry that her reaction in a private conversation was made public, and possibly also that she wasn’t hugely supportive but didn’t say no and it was told to the press with a different spin.

We only 'know' what they want us to know. Bizarre that the queens reaction at her conversation being leaked has been leaked Grin

So many gossipy 'aides' in the palace -convenient really!

I suspect 'they' anticipated this story would reflect badly on H&M but instead has made the queen look pathetically petty. Own goal.

Roussette · 16/01/2024 17:48

SoIdentifying · 16/01/2024 17:23

Indeed you are surmising then.

Wow! Didn't realise an NDA means you can repeat what the Queen has said or talk about her mood!
Holey!

Call it surmising all you like.

Rockybooboo · 16/01/2024 17:53

FloofCloud · 16/01/2024 17:31

Well perhaps it's the only way the RF can debunk some of their lies

Well if they've got something to say, why be so sneaky!

MrsMarzetti · 16/01/2024 17:55

Lampzade · 16/01/2024 13:36

It is definitely more than likely that Harry wanted his child to be named after his beloved grandmother.
Meghan probably agreed because she knew how much Harry adored the Queen
It is obvious ( despite what their detractors say) that Harry had a close relationship with the Queen

Harry adored his Grandmother ! Yet chose to use the media to pull his Grandmothers family to bits, made sure to tell the world one of them was racist ( never stated it wasn't his Grandmother) brought nothing but stress to an elderly womans last years on earth, of course he adored her.

upinaballoon · 16/01/2024 18:03

If Princess Lillibet Diana doesn't like the name very much when she's older she can change it to Elizabeth or just ask to be called Princess Elizabeth Diana. If she has a feeling that the naming of her as Lillibet caused a certain amount of argy-bargy she might even have a heap of sensitivity and intelligence and grace about it.

You are on page 30 and I can't be bothered to read all through, so I'm just saying any old thing I want to.

If Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, called his wife a cabbage that was because in French it is a term of endearment to call someone 'mon petit choux' or 'my little cabbage'. I am very ready to believe he called her that. French was his first language. Are there any French scholars out there? If you want to call a female person a little choux do you simply go ahead and use the masculine 'mon petit choux' just the same, for una femina?

Was the Queen furious? Mmmm, well............how many people have a vested interest in saying she was or wasn't?

Rockybooboo · 16/01/2024 18:03

FloofCloud · 16/01/2024 17:42

Harry already did that divert job himself with his ludicrous award story

An aviation award distracted us from Epstein's list and the distressing statements of the children affected. Wow.

Mylovelygreendress · 16/01/2024 18:08

Lampzade · 16/01/2024 13:36

It is definitely more than likely that Harry wanted his child to be named after his beloved grandmother.
Meghan probably agreed because she knew how much Harry adored the Queen
It is obvious ( despite what their detractors say) that Harry had a close relationship with the Queen

The beloved grandmother he never bothered to visit at Balmoral after he was married . In 2019 , he and M claimed it was too far to travel with Archie but then hopped off to S France .
In 2022, H and M again declined an invitation to Balmoral despite the world and its wife knowing that the Queen was fading .
Truly a beloved grandmother.

upinaballoon · 16/01/2024 18:10

MrsMarzetti · 16/01/2024 17:55

Harry adored his Grandmother ! Yet chose to use the media to pull his Grandmothers family to bits, made sure to tell the world one of them was racist ( never stated it wasn't his Grandmother) brought nothing but stress to an elderly womans last years on earth, of course he adored her.

At the end of the Oprah interview someone came on, or a voice came on, to say very clearly that Harry wanted it known that the 'racist' remark which was referred to in the interview, had not come from QE2 or PP. I am willing to believe that he couldn't stop the programme from going out at that point but I also think he realised it wasn't a good time to be floating that one out. I don't know whether he knew that PP was definitely dying at that point but I think he was ill then.

Serenster · 16/01/2024 18:13

If you sign an NDA as part of an employment contract, you agree not to reveal publicly what you learn in the course of your job.

That’s a private contractual obligation, not a public one. It’s between an individual employee and their conscience as to whether they are a stickler about abiding by it, or whether they are a bit elastic about the obligations. Some people wouldn’t ever dream of breathing a word to anyone about the juciest things. Others learn confidential information, like JK Rowling really is the author of the Cormorant Strike books, and just can’t resist gossiping at a dinner party (true story).

Most people will mention some details, which they judge to be innocuous, to some trusted people because it’s hard to say nothing all the time to everyone!

You alos need to think about the consequences of breaching your obligations. The remedy is for the person you entered into the agreement with to sue you for damages. If you’re still in employment, obviously you can be sacked. Many employers won’t bother to sue you (well, they may not be able to identify you!) as, generally, it costs a lot of money and the horse has already bolted. What they might do is try and stop the confidential information being published by whomever their employee blabbed to.

Sometimes, your employer is not that bothered that you are breaching your NDA. Say, in the case of Meghan and Harry and Jason Knauf, because they specifically authorised you to share things covered by the NDA. Sometimes because they recognise that despite technically being a breach of the NDA, they can live with what has been put into the public domain. That might be the case here….

twinklystar23 · 16/01/2024 18:13

Thought the Queen requested that after Philip died that she wasn't to be referred to as Lillibet any more? So if correct a potentially deeply personal wish. She had written lillibet I believe on a card on his coffin with the funeral flowers.
Then H&M use the name for their daughter.

Think that's how it was but happy to be corrected.

HeadNorth · 16/01/2024 18:14

SoIdentifying · 16/01/2024 16:53

Gosh you sound like such an unpleasant person talking like this.

At least I wouldn’t have a hissy fit about a family member using my name - that truly is unpleasant.

HeadNorth · 16/01/2024 18:16

twinklystar23 · 16/01/2024 18:13

Thought the Queen requested that after Philip died that she wasn't to be referred to as Lillibet any more? So if correct a potentially deeply personal wish. She had written lillibet I believe on a card on his coffin with the funeral flowers.
Then H&M use the name for their daughter.

Think that's how it was but happy to be corrected.

Or maybe she wasn’t actually a petty and begrudging lady and the story is made up?

bombardelli · 16/01/2024 18:16

twinklystar23 · 16/01/2024 18:13

Thought the Queen requested that after Philip died that she wasn't to be referred to as Lillibet any more? So if correct a potentially deeply personal wish. She had written lillibet I believe on a card on his coffin with the funeral flowers.
Then H&M use the name for their daughter.

Think that's how it was but happy to be corrected.

Just because she didn't want to be referred to as Lilibet it doesn't auto follow that she didn't want her grandbaby to inherit the name.

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