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bombardelli · 16/01/2024 13:36

royalwatcherr · 16/01/2024 12:40

Celia is absolutely right and most people agree with her.

You and your ilk is not 'most people'.

Roussette · 16/01/2024 13:42

Lampzade · 16/01/2024 13:36

It is definitely more than likely that Harry wanted his child to be named after his beloved grandmother.
Meghan probably agreed because she knew how much Harry adored the Queen
It is obvious ( despite what their detractors say) that Harry had a close relationship with the Queen

Well said. That's it, no more no less.

The furore over a DM story is gobsmacking. No one knows what the Queen thought and posters on here talking like they were party to her innermost thoughts are really quite ridiculous.

Lampzade · 16/01/2024 13:42

BrittleVeneers · 16/01/2024 12:35

The Queen was Harry’s grandmother and his child, the Queen’s great granddaughter, is named after her.

Celia Walden should be called out for the ‘Meghan didn’t earn it’ bullshit.

She should definitely be called out for spouting such nonsense.
Ridiculous statement to make

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 16/01/2024 13:44

royalwatcherr · 16/01/2024 12:40

Celia is absolutely right and most people agree with her.

Well I don't. And as the wife of Piers Morgan, who Harry has called out for the phone hacking scandal, she has her own agenda.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 16/01/2024 13:47

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/01/2024 13:24

The BBC report from June 2021 is still on the website

I know, @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar, but it's the retraction/apology the BBC was alleged to have made I was asking about.
Obviously this would change things, but as is stands getting Schillings to send letters about a report H&M just don't like looks a bit silly if that report's true

Hi, sorry I wasn’t clear. If the BBC had had to apologise and retract, then the article wouldn’t still be on the website, as it would be libellous. And the matter would not have got past Robert Hardman’s lawyers in the editorial stage. And Harry would have been crowing about it in Spare, as one more example of the press being mean to him and him fighting back, when he in fact remained silent on this supposed blessing from the Queen and ensuing threats issued by Schilllings. I think it’s safe to say that poster was confused.

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 16/01/2024 13:48

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 16/01/2024 10:04

Well yes, that’s the whole point of the story. The “blessing” that was claimed, and over which Harry threatened libel against the BBC, didn’t happen.

Ah, OK. I thought Harry only said that he had 'sought' the blessing of the Queen, a deliberate play on words perhaps.

derxa · 16/01/2024 13:49

Lampzade · 16/01/2024 13:36

It is definitely more than likely that Harry wanted his child to be named after his beloved grandmother.
Meghan probably agreed because she knew how much Harry adored the Queen
It is obvious ( despite what their detractors say) that Harry had a close relationship with the Queen

Well they should have called her Elizabeth then since that was her name. As if Meghan would meekly acquiesce to Harry's wishes. The woman who pushes Harry out of the way at any opportunity.😂

Zone2NorthLondon · 16/01/2024 13:54

I see all the sofa psychiatrists have arrived at diagnosis via Piers Morgan and Daily Mail.

just regurgitated half stories and unnamed sources purported as fact

Harry & Meghan have been ostracised and other to become a receptacle of blame & bile. Conveniently allows public and press to ignore and minimise the Andrew allegations

Zone2NorthLondon · 16/01/2024 14:00

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 16/01/2024 13:44

Well I don't. And as the wife of Piers Morgan, who Harry has called out for the phone hacking scandal, she has her own agenda.

Absolutely not. Ms Walden doesn’t speak for or represent the silent majority. Folk who are not vexed or frothing about every H&M alleged indiscretion or social faux pas.

royalwatcherr · 16/01/2024 14:17

Zone2NorthLondon · 16/01/2024 14:00

Absolutely not. Ms Walden doesn’t speak for or represent the silent majority. Folk who are not vexed or frothing about every H&M alleged indiscretion or social faux pas.

"Frothing" 😂

Sorry to break it to you, but H&M's unpopularity has been confirmed by pretty much every poll undertaken by anyone at all for years, in the US, UK, Aus etc

The small (but admittedly vocal) minority notwithstanding

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DemBonesDemBones · 16/01/2024 14:34

I am the first to defend Harry and Meghan but I don't get why they didn't just call their baby Elizabeth and shorten it to Lily/Lilli, as that's what they're calling her anyway.

mamma65432 · 16/01/2024 15:29

I can't see that its true at all - just don't see the Queen going on a furious rant and saying that all she has in the world is her pet-name, whole thing sounds made up 😂

lapochette · 16/01/2024 15:40

I can't believe this is true. The DM are reporting the queen was the most furious she had ever been in her life because her great granddaughter was named after her? More furious at that than having to pay £12 million on behalf of her son to someone he had never met?! If this is true then it really doesn't show the Queen and the royal family in a good light! The sooner we have a republic the better.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 16/01/2024 15:44

@lapochette

How would any of what you just mentioned be cured by a republic? The US is about the re-elect a man who openly talks about grabbing woman by the pussy. A republic is not the answer.

TripleDaisySummer · 16/01/2024 15:45

mamma65432 · 16/01/2024 15:29

I can't see that its true at all - just don't see the Queen going on a furious rant and saying that all she has in the world is her pet-name, whole thing sounds made up 😂

If it happened and seems several staff reportedly said it did - I suspect it was more how it was done and general behavior by then.

Her ex DIL did say she was furious with her at one point - though I've not hear the ranting part a la Queen of hearts character - just that she was furious.

I suspect she'd be quietly furious carefully spoken words to convey her deep anger or a few dark mutterings to well known and trusted staff members to get it off her chest.

LaMarschallin · 16/01/2024 15:57

TripleDaisySummer

I suspect she'd be quietly furious carefully spoken words to convey her deep anger or a few dark mutterings to well known and trusted staff members to get it off her chest.

This seems more likely to me too. I suspect someone so used to having staff around would keep their emotions restrained until they were in private with friends and family.

However, MN tends to be a place of high expressed emotion (eg people "scream" rather than "shout" or just "raise their voice"), so "angry" becomes in people's minds "a rant" and "as angry as I'd ever seen her" becomes "the angriest she'd ever been in her whole life" etc

Roussette · 16/01/2024 15:59

If it happened and seems several staff reportedly said it did

It appears that NDAs don't apply if you want to leak something negative about H&M then. Funny that.

If it is true, it sounds like 'several staff' have loose tongues...

Alalain · 16/01/2024 16:02

'll never forget the sketch Meghan did with Melissa McCarthy where Melissa was wearing a cabbage hat and laughing at the English upper classes. We all know that Philip called the Queen 'cabbage'.

I didn't know about that, gosh Meghan can really appear to be a nasty piece of work.

Samcro · 16/01/2024 16:06

Roussette · 16/01/2024 15:59

If it happened and seems several staff reportedly said it did

It appears that NDAs don't apply if you want to leak something negative about H&M then. Funny that.

If it is true, it sounds like 'several staff' have loose tongues...

another case of throwing H&M under the bus.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 16/01/2024 16:08

Roussette · 16/01/2024 15:59

If it happened and seems several staff reportedly said it did

It appears that NDAs don't apply if you want to leak something negative about H&M then. Funny that.

If it is true, it sounds like 'several staff' have loose tongues...

Why would a palace aid owe a duty under an NDA to Meghan and Harry?

Roussette · 16/01/2024 16:11

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 16/01/2024 16:08

Why would a palace aid owe a duty under an NDA to Meghan and Harry?

NDA's are Non Disclosure Agreements. They all sign them. They should not be reporting on the Queen's anger or anything she said to the papers or anyone.

JaneJeffer · 16/01/2024 16:15

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 16/01/2024 15:44

@lapochette

How would any of what you just mentioned be cured by a republic? The US is about the re-elect a man who openly talks about grabbing woman by the pussy. A republic is not the answer.

The head of state does not have to be the head of government. They're two separate offices here in Ireland.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 16/01/2024 16:19

Roussette · 16/01/2024 16:11

NDA's are Non Disclosure Agreements. They all sign them. They should not be reporting on the Queen's anger or anything she said to the papers or anyone.

Right. So if a palace aid wants to have a tattle about Prince Andrew, you'd be against that, yes?

Or a gossip about William and Catherine. To someone like Omid Scobie, who claims to have palace sources. You're against that, right?

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 16/01/2024 16:22

@JaneJeffer

And there has never been a scandal or abuse of power by the Irish president? Ireland is a haven of equality, fairness and there is no poverty?

Because what is often suggested in these threads is that becoming a republic will solve all of our problems. Whereas I think another political referendum about anything is going to completely fuck us for the next few decades.

There are very few bloodless coups. I find it odd that people who are often anti- war are also so keep to have a revolution.

Alalain · 16/01/2024 16:23

Does an NDA expire on the death of the person protected by said NDA ?

Gloves are off now, it seems.

I don't think H&M will take this quietly, even though it is likely to be the truth so unable to make a statement denying it or sue,, but I bet they are getting their scud missiles in place for the next round of retaliation.

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