Queen's fury over naming of baby Lilibet: Aide says monarch was 'as angry as I'd ever seen her' after Harry and Meghan claim

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12962667/queen-elizabeth-II-fury-prince-harry-meghan-markle-baby-lilibet.html

I'm not surprised, choosing that name was so brazen

So they decided to name their daughter after the person who wouldn’t stand up for them and threw them under the bus. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

And just remember, those 'senior advisers' were paid for by you and I out of our taxes. Can't get a cancer referral or your kid is stuck in a primary class of 33 with no TA, be glad you've paid for 'senior advisers' and Andrew's rent and Sophie's dresses and ski trips.....

As I always say, the Royals missed out on an absolutely golden opportunity with H&M.
They were extremely popular here, and also would have done well in the commonwealth.

I don't think Pan Macmillan would publish the book unless everyone was very sure of the sources.

I was supposed to be named after my great grandma. My paternal grandfather did not want me to be named after his mother as they didn’t have a good relationship and that was respected by my parents.

I think it was a bit off for them to give Lilibet the full pet name, as that seems like a personal part of the Queens identity.
even in the statement announcing her name Harry and Meghan said Lilibet would go by Lili I think. Why not just call her Lili? That way the Queen keeps her personal identity and Harry/ Meghan are still honouring the Queen (that is if the Queen was happy about the name Lili).

I don’t think it was the Queen who threw them
under the bus, it would have been the others who were very jealous of H&M’s popularity and threatened by it.

I don’t believe this at all. However, even if it’s true, they can name their child whatever they like. I admire Queen Elizabeth, but she wouldn’t have been in the right in this situation imho.

Again I don’t believe a word of this 😂

What others?

This.

They always said the Queen was lovely to Meghan. It's some.of the otherwise hate. They didn't call the baby Camilla for instance

Camilla, Charles, William and the advisors.

It’s from Robert Hartman’s new book which Daily Mail is promoting.

The Queen who wouldn’t give them the half in half out that they wanted. The Queen who ran the institution they claim wouldn’t support them in things like Harry’s allegation that mental health help was refused for Meghan. The Queen who wouldn’t give them the house they wanted. The Queen who didn’t (according to their claims) provide Meghan with the help she needed over royal protocol. The Queen who took away Meghan’s passport (so she alleged). The Queen who presided over a family Harry alleges were guilty of unchecked conscious bias leading into racism.

They threw a lot of shit in the direction of a woman who was always lovely to them. How cruel they are.

HM The Queen hardly ever met Meghan. People did not 'pop in' to see The Queen, even her children. They saw her by arrangement and could go weeks, or even months, without seeing her when she was fit and well. This is a woman who didn't see her husband for months when he retired to Sandringham and she was still working.
The wife of a grandchild would have been well down the list of people who ever saw her. I'd be surprised if they met, outside of formal occasions, more than a handful of times, most of which would have been very brief. Her own children needed an appointment and were rarely given more than 15-30 minutes. I am sure HM was always polite and welcoming but it was not in any way a close relationship. The Queen entertained her family at Balmoral - by invitation for a week each- and at Sandringham at Christmas for 2 nights. H and M went to Balmoral once for 2 days (according to them) and never stayed at Sandringham (they stayed with W and K and said they felt unwelcome).

And service is universal.

Who else?

About 30 babies born in Scotland, with Lilibet (or variants) on the birth certificate, with the earliest use being 1931. And probably even more in England, Wales and NI so whether they all originate from the old queen or not, it's seems to be established as a name now.

@LuluBlakey1 God the way the royals interact with one another is like something from a hundred years ago.

So distant. It's no wonder they are falling out with one another and barely seem to understand or support one another.

I can't imagine mental health is something they understand because family relationships are so foundational for it.

That’s at least more true than the Royal Family claiming their life is ‘one of service’ rather than of extreme privilege.

Wow what a fucked up family.

Such a fucked up family they decided to name their daughter after it’s head/matriarch.

Much like H&M, you want to have your cake and eat it. You want their decision to call their daughter Lilibet to appear sane and reasonable and not at all self serving/goady; whilst at the same time holding M&H up as the faultless victims who escaped the grasp of the fucked up firm, and don’t want anything to do with them or what they stand for.

So none before 1926, the Queen’s year of birth. A name given to 30 people over 90 plus years in Scotland. I’ll round that up to an estimate of 200 to include the rest of the uk. Plus a woman in the US, who used it as a nickname not her given name. I doubt there were many others in the US, but let’s say maybe 100 more and another 100 for the rest of the world. To hell with it, let’s go wild and say 1000 Lilibets over 96 years out of a population of 2 billion in 1926 rising to 8.1 Billion now. Yup, I’m convinced.

I'm baffled by H and M- they appear to have nothing but hatred for the RF as an institution and feel bitterness, rage and anger towards individuals- the King, Camilla, HM The Late Queen, William, Kate, the Royal Court amongst others. They have done their best to damage it.

Yet, they continue to find ways to maintain links to it
1 The name of the baby- which is highly personal and intimate and it isn't like a stranger using the name. No one uses the name apart from those very close to HM. Camilla didn't, The Queen's sons and daughters in law didn't, her grandchildren in law certainly didn't (Kate called her Your Majesty and then 'ma'am' and then 'Granny'.) Only her parents, sister, husband and a very few, very close , very long-standing childhood friends used it-her childhood cousins for example (Duke of Kent, Princess Alexandra, Prince Michael, Duke of Gloucester). None of her children or grand-children or other great grandchildren have ever been given the name, even as a second or third name.
Mike Tindall said even when he and Zara had been married years he was incredibly nervous and could hardly speak if he found himself seated next to her. He called Prince Phillip 'Sir'.
2.They claimed to no longer be concerned about being royal but made such a fuss about claiming and using the HRH and titles of Prince and Princess for their children as soon as the King became King. So their daughter became HRH Princess Lillibet . What's that about? It's not about 'just a name'.
3.They continue to profit from their tales, accounts, books, interviews and other 'jobs' all of which are related to their status and links to the RF. They don't do anything that is not related to the RF link. Every offer they get is because of it.
4.They continue to argue and complain and hang on-the demands for apologies from Charles and William, the security withdrawal complaint court case, the threat of legal action over the name, the legal action against newspapers.

So what's it about? Money? Status? What? Why not just walk away for good? They have hundreds of millions of £££s- they'll never need any more money.

Yup, I'm convinced

You seem determined not to be. I'll bet not even this soul could convince you she wasn't named after the QE2.

Well done, 500 year old evidence of a currently established, common name that any old prince can use. I’m totally convinced. Why on earth they sought old Lilibet’s blessing and threatened to sue the press over it is a total mystery.

Replace "Queen" with "courtiers" and we likely have a more accurate version of events.