Queen's fury over naming of baby Lilibet: Aide says monarch was 'as angry as I'd ever seen her' after Harry and Meghan claim

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12962667/queen-elizabeth-II-fury-prince-harry-meghan-markle-baby-lilibet.html

I'm not surprised, choosing that name was so brazen

If the Queen was bothered about this, then it only reflects badly on her.
And if she was bothered about them saying she was supportive of it to the press, then she's also a royal idiot. It's an obvious follow up question by the journo.

The daily pathetic articles about their alleged "crimes" are really scraping the barrell.

Next it'll be "Queen horrified by Meghan dropping a napkin"

The whole world knew! I mean did you actually SEE the interview? Or read the book? Clearly relations had seriously broken down and you name your kid after her……it’s bonkers.

Exactly this ^

Of course nobody owns a name, but to use the pet name of the Queen is hardly the same as you or I choosing a name for our child. Obviously it is going to be mentioned in news stories all around the globe, and it would certainly be expected that she would be consulted. It's a private pet name, very personal to her, if they had wanted to call her Elizabeth, Beth, Lizzie etc. that would be different.

Baffles me how people can't understand that being a Royal, and therefore in the public eye, means that they are not the same as Joe/Jane Bloggs!!!!

Said ‘beloved’ grandmother was called a racist and they were not on speaking terms at the time. Why in god’s name would anyone choose to name their child after a person in those circumstances?!

Exactly. So perhaps the actual situation between them was not as you believe it to be?

They didn’t ask the Queen either
They TOLD the Queen

Big Difference.

Robert Hardman being a Daily Mail journalist.

Come off it. He’s a DM hack with delusions of grandeur. Just because he’s written previous books on the monarchy means nothing. They could all well be fairy tales. I’d wager his books are as factual as The Crown. Where’s his evidence for his claims? He’s out to sell books and needs the click bait headlines

You do realise the 'highly-respected author' is employed by the Daily Mail?
As it states clearly in the article.
Maybe you should have read it properly?

Choosing this name did have a sort of exploitative feel - they're fairly desperate to continue to be seen as members of the RF and they want to imply that they were close to QEII even if they have been busy putting the boot into her oldest son and Prince William. It's sort of on a par with the way they have done their best to use the connection with Diana.

I suspect that their daughter will ultimately restrict her name to Lily or something similar, as it does sound a bit babyish.

Don’t be ridiculous. Harry and Megan set out to cause maximum carnage as the Queens husband lay dying, calling them racists on live TV beamed across the entire globe and you think they were secretly all cosy playing happy families behind the scenes?!

You are deluded.

There are few things the RF pride more than loyalty.

I understood that name was Charles' suggestion.

It doesn't surprise me. I've always thought that naming the child the Queen's private nickname was the height of arrogance, insensitivity and entitlement on Harry's part. He is astoundingly incapable of reading the room in any situation.

What a complete fiasco his paltry, juvenile life has become. And he had everything at his fingertips, could have led a life of dignified service like Anne instead of a self-centered, grievance-obsessed whiner.

Nor wipe my arse with it!

Not exclusively. He is a film/ documentary maker plus reports for the BBC

“What a complete fiasco his paltry, juvenile life has become. And he had everything at his fingertips, could have led a life of dignified service like Anne instead of a self-centered, grievance-obsessed whiner.”

Bit they would have had to walk behind W and C and defer to them and that was never going to suit.

Even Kevin Maguire defended Robert Hardman as a legitimate source on Good Morning Britain this morning and said he would 100 per cent trust what he has said on the matter

When her husband died, she told those close to her that she didn't want anyone else to ever call her Lilibet. That name meant so much to her and now that she'd lost her husband, father, sister and those who used to call her it, she didn't want it to be used anymore.

If this is true that's really sad. And makes them using the name even worse although it was already tone deaf of them.

I am sure if this Daily Mail “ shite “ as some posters insist them H and M will come out all guns blazing .

I'm not surprised. I'd have been pissed off too.

It's one thing calling your baby Elizabeth as a nod to your Grandmother (who happens to be the Queen) but to use her sacred nickname , which they knew was sacred to her, is just bloody rude. Plus there's a million other names they could have picked. Any of those could have been just as lovely and far more appropriate.

Well, quite!

I disagree that it reflects badly on the Queen. Just another example of Harry and Meghan's complete disregard for the feelings of others and steamrolling ahead with their own way never a thought for anybody but themselves.

It takes gas lighting and manipulation to a whole new level. It’s an insane decision.

He only won parts of his case against them and not all of them but he doesn’t like to point that out. Or the case he actually lost against the papers and owes them legal fees.

It's very entitled to think you can own a name.
And the article only hurts a living child, not a dead old woman.