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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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Novella4 · 28/02/2024 12:14

@meercat23

Thank you for your reply

The ‘private family’ and ‘public event’ obfuscation reminds me very much of how the Windsors fiddle the little tax they reluctantly pay
Private when it suits them
Public when it suits them

I’m shocked that there are still women who will search for reasons help deflect from and excuse Andrew
Actually not shocked but disgusted
Next comes ‘ he hasn’t been convicted ‘
Then ‘where were the girls parents ‘

The whole point is Andrew is firmly esconced in the bosom of # that family .
They have no issue with him and we are all paying for it

TallerSally · 28/02/2024 12:31

Novella4 · 28/02/2024 12:14

@meercat23

Thank you for your reply

The ‘private family’ and ‘public event’ obfuscation reminds me very much of how the Windsors fiddle the little tax they reluctantly pay
Private when it suits them
Public when it suits them

I’m shocked that there are still women who will search for reasons help deflect from and excuse Andrew
Actually not shocked but disgusted
Next comes ‘ he hasn’t been convicted ‘
Then ‘where were the girls parents ‘

The whole point is Andrew is firmly esconced in the bosom of # that family .
They have no issue with him and we are all paying for it

So true.

Not only is the RFs complaisant and weak attitude towards paedo-befriender Andrew (not remotely the first paedo-befriender in their midst that they have turned a blind eye to!) shocking, for people whose lifestyles depend on support and acceptance of the British public.

The wilful blindness among some of the public is equally shocking. It shows that for some, it's more of the same: protect the perpetrators at all costs, ignore, or worse vilify the victims, even when they are vulnerable children.

Thankfully, only a tiny minority think this way, actively posting in the hope that they'll convince others.

Most people can retain a sense of decency and perspective: NO WAY will paedo-befriending, arrogant coward Prince Andrew ever be rehabilitated in the eyes of the majority of the public, until he cooperates with the criminal justice system who have full legitimacy to protect the vulnerable and investigate crimes!

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meercat23 · 28/02/2024 12:35

As for the 'he hasn't been convicted' comments that appear frequently. I would have more sympathy with this view if he had agreed to talk to the relevant authorities, if he had not given that excruciating and totally unconvincing interview or if he had even shown even the smallest amount of regret or understanding of what those young women have been through. To date his only concern has been for himself.

Roussette · 28/02/2024 12:38

Yes and trying to rehabilitate himself in the public's eyes so he can resume worldwide golf tours paid for by us

MsForgetful · 28/02/2024 12:43

Roussette · 28/02/2024 12:38

Yes and trying to rehabilitate himself in the public's eyes so he can resume worldwide golf tours paid for by us

I am pretty disappointed with the firm allowing Andrew to fill the gaping hole that the absence of Kate, William and Charles has left. I am not ok with it.

Novella4 · 28/02/2024 15:06

meercat23 · 28/02/2024 12:35

As for the 'he hasn't been convicted' comments that appear frequently. I would have more sympathy with this view if he had agreed to talk to the relevant authorities, if he had not given that excruciating and totally unconvincing interview or if he had even shown even the smallest amount of regret or understanding of what those young women have been through. To date his only concern has been for himself.

Exactly

CathyorClaire · 03/03/2024 21:18

More documents scheduled to be released.

Appears Prince Charmless may have lobbied for his perverted mate:

Prince Andrew faces 'day of reckoning' as bombshell Jeffrey Epstein court papers to be released (msn.com)

Why does that ring a bell?

Roussette · 04/03/2024 10:10

accused Andrew of helping secure Epstein's plea deal by lobbying the US Government. In legal documents, two of Epstein's victims said the Duke, 64, was linked to pressuring officials to cut his sentence

If this is true it's gobsmacking and proves without doubt Andrew lied in that interview about not knowing all of what Epstein was up to

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/03/2024 10:34

As ever I'll wait to see what these reports say, but there may be a sight problem with the timeline there, Cathy and Roussette ... wasn't the infamous NY trip claimed to be to tell Epstein they couldn't be friends any more?

If that's the case why would Andrew still be lobbying on his behalf afterwards??

Roussette · 04/03/2024 10:42

Yes, he went there to break up with his bestie, it took 4 days and a dinner in his honour 😮

I'm just trying to work out what this is all about

Alalain · 04/03/2024 10:45

I wouldn't put it past him, he was and is blinded by hugely wealthy people, you don't get the kind of handouts he was getting without the expectation of some return when the favour is called in. Hopefully there is evidence of that lobbying rather than heresay.

ThePoshUns · 04/03/2024 10:50

Urgh what an absolute sleaze.
He is despicable. And those family members supporting him should be ashamed of themselves.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/03/2024 11:24

Just as with Charles, it really is "my friends versus the little people who don't matter", with a hefty dollop of "don't even think of questioning me because I'm untouchable" isn't it?

Two men (at least) with convictions for paedophilia and two royals determined to enable them, and worse still one of them now the Head of State

Go figure Hmm

Roussette · 04/03/2024 11:28

I think he is honestly thick. People like Epstein and the other dodgy characters he mixed with only wanted to know him because he is a member of the RF. No other reason

Libby Purves summed it up in The Times in 2015

"Prince Andrew dazzles easily when confronted with immense wealth and apparent power. He has fallen for 'friendships' with bad, corrupt and clever men, not only in the US but in Libya, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tunisia, wherever."

ThePoshUns · 04/03/2024 11:29

Absolutely agree @Roussette ,
Lack of intelligence and pomposity are a poor mix.

CathyorClaire · 04/03/2024 20:51

And those family members supporting him should be ashamed of themselves.

Even apart from the ethics, the optics for a family in apparent crisis are appalling.

The feel good PR generated by the multiple royal circuses of the past eighteen months would seem to be be unravelling.

PassifloraEvangelist · 04/03/2024 22:13

Did anyone see SF cosying up to Christian Horner in Bahrain. Giving him a big sympathetic smile and touching his arm? It made me cringe. It’s not just one odious man who can’t keep his trousers up that she supports then..

Also all the minor Royals off on a private jet to attend. You’d think none of them had to work for a living! Oh wait a minute…

Tatumm · 04/03/2024 23:02

Enough. We need to abolish the monarchy.

Roussette · 05/03/2024 03:30

PassifloraEvangelist · 04/03/2024 22:13

Did anyone see SF cosying up to Christian Horner in Bahrain. Giving him a big sympathetic smile and touching his arm? It made me cringe. It’s not just one odious man who can’t keep his trousers up that she supports then..

Also all the minor Royals off on a private jet to attend. You’d think none of them had to work for a living! Oh wait a minute…

Omg tell me not. I've missed this. Horner is obviously a big sleaze but SF is cosying up to him?

Last week she was leading the RF into a memorial service!
WTAF

PassifloraEvangelist · 05/03/2024 07:51

There’s also a photo of him kissing Eugenie.

Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?
CathyorClaire · 05/03/2024 10:05

PassifloraEvangelist · 04/03/2024 22:13

Did anyone see SF cosying up to Christian Horner in Bahrain. Giving him a big sympathetic smile and touching his arm? It made me cringe. It’s not just one odious man who can’t keep his trousers up that she supports then..

Also all the minor Royals off on a private jet to attend. You’d think none of them had to work for a living! Oh wait a minute…

😮😮😡

It just gets worse and worse.

I know I say it every time but they really, really should have folded up their towels and left the beach when Q died.

They've managed to turn it into a slo-mo trainwreck in eighteen months.

GothConversionTherapy · 05/03/2024 12:18

This gets worse and worse for them and they don't realise, reminds me of the fall of the Romanovs. I've always disliked prince Philip but have to admit he was right to keep Fergie at such a distance.

Roussette · 05/03/2024 13:01

What I don't understand is this....

Surely Sarah knows that hugging a man who has been accused of grubby behaviour is not going to help her cause or her ex husband's in any way at all and in fact will just be greatly criticised

She must be totally thick, stupid and unaware

meercat23 · 05/03/2024 13:45

Roussette · 05/03/2024 13:01

What I don't understand is this....

Surely Sarah knows that hugging a man who has been accused of grubby behaviour is not going to help her cause or her ex husband's in any way at all and in fact will just be greatly criticised

She must be totally thick, stupid and unaware

...or just so arrogant that she thinks she is untouchable. I was wondering if they realised at all just how badly their grinning swaggering walk into that memorial service had been received but if SF had any such awareness surely she would be keeping her head down not courting the limelight wherever she can find it?

Roussette · 05/03/2024 13:54

My thoughts exactly