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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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diddl · 27/02/2024 18:25

Gottseidank · 27/02/2024 18:20

Lady Gabriela Kingston’s husband was found dead - that’s why William wasn’t there. It’s just been reported.

She was a cousin and close to William, they both grew up in Kensington Palace and are close in age

How awful.

They hadn't been married long had they?

Gottseidank · 27/02/2024 18:28

diddl · 27/02/2024 18:25

How awful.

They hadn't been married long had they?

Since 2019 - it doesn’t seem that long ago.

CC49 · 27/02/2024 18:31

Gottseidank · 27/02/2024 18:28

Since 2019 - it doesn’t seem that long ago.

I thought she was the most beautiful royal bride. Not only because of her ensemble, but because she seemed so genuinely serene and happy. What a tragedy.

Novella4 · 27/02/2024 19:42

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 16:57

It was reported as being a private family event.

’A private family affair’ that has them all walking in in order of ‘ seniority ‘??
People loitering in doorways in order not to ( gasp) break protocol ?
What rubbish
It was another outing for Andrew.
That family see nothing wrong with Andrew’s history

The whole rotten facade stinks to high heaven

CathyorClaire · 27/02/2024 20:21

He has form for taking advantage of these ‘private’ events, it’s a shame the media gives him attention he wants.

I agree he has form for self promotion at any opportunity but hacks are gonna hack.

The real enablers are the RF who have demonstrated their support for him and thus their contempt for the public that funds them over and over and over.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/02/2024 20:38

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 16:57

It was reported as being a private family event.

So was the late Queen's infamous horse ride and the car ride to church with him just after the Epstein story broke, but it was still sending a message - in this case "f*ck you for daring to criticise my son"

As a PP said there was nothing to stop him entering quietly as a private person, and instead he chose to grin his way along at the front of them all with his ex in tow for good measure

Sickening Hmm

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 22:23

Were there any members of the public there though?

Roussette · 28/02/2024 01:48

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 22:23

Were there any members of the public there though?

Plenty of members of the press, and oglers that love to watch them going to church

LolaSmiles · 28/02/2024 06:19

Plenty of members of the press, and oglers that love to watch them going to church
This is something I don't understand.

I can appreciate people wanting to see them at a specific event as they're public figures and plenty of people want to see public figures at work events, but sitting/standing outside wrapped up with flasks and flags to see them walk to a church service as a family seems a little bit odd to me. It's a different level of adoration.

Inkanta · 28/02/2024 07:56

Andrews laughing face outside the church (for a memorial) makes the family look farcical. It's on the front on one of the papers - his laughing face. Glad William missed being stood nexr to that.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 08:35

LolaSmiles · 28/02/2024 06:19

Plenty of members of the press, and oglers that love to watch them going to church
This is something I don't understand.

I can appreciate people wanting to see them at a specific event as they're public figures and plenty of people want to see public figures at work events, but sitting/standing outside wrapped up with flasks and flags to see them walk to a church service as a family seems a little bit odd to me. It's a different level of adoration.

Were there flasks and flags though? I didn't see any members of the public in any of the photos. Does anyone have any photos that shows the public?

LolaSmiles · 28/02/2024 08:44

Were there flasks and flags though? I didn't see any members of the public in any of the photos. Does anyone have any photos that shows the public?
Sorry I wasn't clear. I wasn't speaking about a specific day.
It was more a general conversation about situations where some members of the public wait out. Christmas day comes to mind where instead of spending the morning with family, some people are all wrapped up in the freezing cold to watch another family walk into church.

The level of adoration some people have for one family doesn't make sense to me.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 08:56

Novella4 · 27/02/2024 19:42

’A private family affair’ that has them all walking in in order of ‘ seniority ‘??
People loitering in doorways in order not to ( gasp) break protocol ?
What rubbish
It was another outing for Andrew.
That family see nothing wrong with Andrew’s history

The whole rotten facade stinks to high heaven

If it's a private affair and this was as the royal family including Prince Andrew were invited by the Greek royal family then how they walk into church and their order of protocol if there was one is entirely up to them. It wasn't a public event.

He is still the King's brother so is still allowed to attend these private events whether we like it or not, that is for them as a family to decide the same as any other family.

Official Royal engagements are something completely different.

TallerSally · 28/02/2024 09:04

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 08:56

If it's a private affair and this was as the royal family including Prince Andrew were invited by the Greek royal family then how they walk into church and their order of protocol if there was one is entirely up to them. It wasn't a public event.

He is still the King's brother so is still allowed to attend these private events whether we like it or not, that is for them as a family to decide the same as any other family.

Official Royal engagements are something completely different.

This is next level disingenuous, and a perfect example of the con that the RF is attempting to play on the public.

It fools no-one.

This is a clear and deliberate attempt by the RF to stuff disgraced and repulsive Prince Andrew and his grifting ex-wife down our throats, whether we like it or not.

No-one cares about the mechanics of why Prince Andrew turned up at the event. All that matters to the RF is the OPTICS. And they are that PA is back in the fold, gloriously stepping up to lead the RF in the absence of the senior working royals. One look at news headlines today says it all.

So let's please stop toeing the BS hypocritical official line and get back to reality: the RF are actively trying to rehabilitate Prince Andrew, when they should have turned him in to the FBI for investigation over his time spent with convicted serial pedophile and child trafficker Andrew Epstein, and his convicted enabler Ghislaine Maxwell.

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Novella4 · 28/02/2024 09:28

@2dogsandabudgie

So by your logic the multi million pound funeral and multi million pound coronation were both ‘private family occasions’?
Did the Windsors foot the bill themselves because Andrew was also parading around in his velvet curtains then too

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 10:35

TallerSally · 28/02/2024 09:04

This is next level disingenuous, and a perfect example of the con that the RF is attempting to play on the public.

It fools no-one.

This is a clear and deliberate attempt by the RF to stuff disgraced and repulsive Prince Andrew and his grifting ex-wife down our throats, whether we like it or not.

No-one cares about the mechanics of why Prince Andrew turned up at the event. All that matters to the RF is the OPTICS. And they are that PA is back in the fold, gloriously stepping up to lead the RF in the absence of the senior working royals. One look at news headlines today says it all.

So let's please stop toeing the BS hypocritical official line and get back to reality: the RF are actively trying to rehabilitate Prince Andrew, when they should have turned him in to the FBI for investigation over his time spent with convicted serial pedophile and child trafficker Andrew Epstein, and his convicted enabler Ghislaine Maxwell.

But it doesn't matter what you want to believe, this wasn't an official royal engagement. He was invited by the Greek Royal family so that's a private matter between the two families.

The press have their own agenda, they know that Prince Andrew is a controversial figure and reporting on this would sell papers. They didn't really need to report it as it was a private memorial service. They've just given Andrew the attention he wanted.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 10:43

TallerSally - You do realise don't you that the Epstein scandal isn't just about Prince Andrew. I would imagine there's a lot of powerful people who want it kept quiet, people who are more influential than him.

Do I think he should have been interviewed by the FBI? Of course, but I would bet money on it not happening.

Novella4 · 28/02/2024 10:46

There is no such thing as the Greek ‘royal’ family
They were kicked out 50 years ago
There is no such thing as the British ‘royal’ family either in reality .
Royalty is a lie
No one is ‘royal’ .

Roussette · 28/02/2024 10:48

this wasn't an official royal engagement.

We know that but it looked as public as the walk to Sandringham church on Boxing day. Andrew and ex Sarah leading all the royals up the street

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 10:49

Novella4 · 28/02/2024 09:28

@2dogsandabudgie

So by your logic the multi million pound funeral and multi million pound coronation were both ‘private family occasions’?
Did the Windsors foot the bill themselves because Andrew was also parading around in his velvet curtains then too

Eh? What have those events got to do with a private memorial service for King Constantine? Not sure what report you saw but I saw Prince Andrew wearing a suit the same as everyone else.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 10:54

Roussette · 28/02/2024 10:48

this wasn't an official royal engagement.

We know that but it looked as public as the walk to Sandringham church on Boxing day. Andrew and ex Sarah leading all the royals up the street

But there were no members of the public there as far as I could see from the photos. They didn't do a walkabout. If the press hadn't taken photos would anyone have known about it, because I wouldn't.

Novella4 · 28/02/2024 10:58

@2dogsandabudgie

ok . I’ll break it down for you .

You are saying it was fine for Andrew to be front and centre at the memorial yesterday as it was ‘private ‘ ( by your definition)
So you clearly then object to Andrew being allowed to parade in Order of the Garter ludicrous velvet curtains at the funeral and the coronation as they were state events
Is that right ?
Yes or no

2dogsandabudgie · 28/02/2024 11:26

Novella4 · 28/02/2024 10:58

@2dogsandabudgie

ok . I’ll break it down for you .

You are saying it was fine for Andrew to be front and centre at the memorial yesterday as it was ‘private ‘ ( by your definition)
So you clearly then object to Andrew being allowed to parade in Order of the Garter ludicrous velvet curtains at the funeral and the coronation as they were state events
Is that right ?
Yes or no

It isn't that clear cut though because they are personal events for the royal family as well as by their nature public events. I think King Charles made a very bad error of judgement in letting PA wear Garter robes at the coronation as that was against what the Queen had decided.

PA didn't wear garter robes at the Queen's funeral, he was in a suit.

So in answer to your question in my opinion he should have been allowed to attend those events.

I don't think he should be allowed to represent the Royal family in any official duties or allowed on walkabouts.

meercat23 · 28/02/2024 11:29

Novella4 · 28/02/2024 10:58

@2dogsandabudgie

ok . I’ll break it down for you .

You are saying it was fine for Andrew to be front and centre at the memorial yesterday as it was ‘private ‘ ( by your definition)
So you clearly then object to Andrew being allowed to parade in Order of the Garter ludicrous velvet curtains at the funeral and the coronation as they were state events
Is that right ?
Yes or no

Novella I know you were directing your question at a specific poster but I will give my answer anyway, hope that is ok.

I very much objected to those appearances in fancy dress. They were official occasions and if he was allowed there as a family member should have been in every day clothes and in the background. The fact that he is constantly fighting for the right to be front and centre tells you all you need to know about him. I also intensely dislike the fact that his ex wife is parading alongside of him as if she is still an official member of the royal family.

The pictures of the pair of them beaming at yesterday's service was sickening.

Roussette · 28/02/2024 12:08

meercat23 · 28/02/2024 11:29

Novella I know you were directing your question at a specific poster but I will give my answer anyway, hope that is ok.

I very much objected to those appearances in fancy dress. They were official occasions and if he was allowed there as a family member should have been in every day clothes and in the background. The fact that he is constantly fighting for the right to be front and centre tells you all you need to know about him. I also intensely dislike the fact that his ex wife is parading alongside of him as if she is still an official member of the royal family.

The pictures of the pair of them beaming at yesterday's service was sickening.

So agree with your post.