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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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Roussette · 04/01/2024 18:28

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 18:24

@TallerSally
Obviously you've seen all the court records, the accusations and the definitive proof that Andrew is what you say he is, you were there in court when he was found guilty. Was it a majority verdict by the jury?
what was Andrew actually charged with? how many counts of sexual abuse did he face?

As you well know, he paid off the victim. £12million as I understand it.
For someone he'd never met.

LadyWhitwell · 04/01/2024 18:28

Well Andrew should hand himself to the FBI so that we know what he is being charged with. If he's done nothing wrong, no charges will be pressed.

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 18:29

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 18:24

@TallerSally
Obviously you've seen all the court records, the accusations and the definitive proof that Andrew is what you say he is, you were there in court when he was found guilty. Was it a majority verdict by the jury?
what was Andrew actually charged with? how many counts of sexual abuse did he face?

He will never be gound guilty or innocent of anything because he is being protected by the RF. He spends his time surrounded by them and dare not enter another country in case he is arrested. He is refusing to cooperate with the FBI. Innocent until proven guilty only works if you are not refusing to even stand as a witness in court and can get away with it.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 04/01/2024 18:31

I’m sure if I faced these accusations and was 100% innocent I’d want to clear my name in a court of law.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 04/01/2024 18:32

But then my parents brought me up to have a conscience and a moral compass.

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 18:44

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Roussette · 04/01/2024 18:48

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You don't know he paid off the victim? Surely you do. It was reported everywhere.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 04/01/2024 18:51

From wiki:

“Even though the amount of money set to be given by the Duke to Giuffre has not been officially disclosed, The Daily Telegraph estimated that it could be as high as £12 million ($16.3 million), with the Queen partly funding it by giving £2 million to Giuffre's sex trafficking charity.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre_v._Prince_Andrew#:~:text=Even%20though%20the%20amount%20of,to%20Giuffre%27s%20sex%20trafficking%20charity.

Virginia Giuffre v. Prince Andrew - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre_v._Prince_Andrew#:~:text=Even%20though%20the%20amount%20of,to%20Giuffre%27s%20sex%20trafficking%20charity.

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 18:52

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 18:57

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 18:24

@TallerSally
Obviously you've seen all the court records, the accusations and the definitive proof that Andrew is what you say he is, you were there in court when he was found guilty. Was it a majority verdict by the jury?
what was Andrew actually charged with? how many counts of sexual abuse did he face?

Nice try.

Let’s stop pretending we don’t understand that Prince Andrew is in hiding in his royal palaces and refusing to hand himself over to the FBI despite them seeking to interrogate him precisely because Epstein and Maxwell have been found guilty and convicted on multiple counts of child sex trafficking, shall we?

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Roussette · 04/01/2024 19:00

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I'm sorry, I don't understand. First of all, who is Shirley?

Secondly, it was all over the media for weeks about the payoff. And you are on a thread about the whole debacle. I would naturally assume you know that Andrew did not go to court, but the victim was paid a serious amount of money, by the Queen. It was not one article. It was everywhere for days or more.

There is no need to be rude to me by the way.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 04/01/2024 19:04

I was just thinking about his perception of the interview and how out of touch it was. But then, if you have been raised in such a privileged bubble that taking public transport is an adventure, and you are surrounded by people whose whole reason for being is to prop up the idea that you are somehow superior, perhaps it should not be at all surprising. I think part of the reason the RF arent coming down on him harder is that there are others with less than great behaviour and they dont want to start a precedent.

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 19:07

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unbelieveable22 · 04/01/2024 19:07

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 18:24

@TallerSally
Obviously you've seen all the court records, the accusations and the definitive proof that Andrew is what you say he is, you were there in court when he was found guilty. Was it a majority verdict by the jury?
what was Andrew actually charged with? how many counts of sexual abuse did he face?

While some apologists are attempting to be more subtle none of that with you! Regardless as to whether he appeared in court or not he clearly continued a relationship with Epstein after he had been convicted. Andrew bloody well admitted it!!!
This is a parenting forum and some are trying to excuse the endorsement of child abuse. Disgusting.

TallerSally · 04/01/2024 19:10

LadyWhitwell · 04/01/2024 18:13

How could any of those disgusting men see these girls as underage. They are all paedophile. No excuses for constantly attending parties with such young kids around.

Thanks for posting these, @LadyWhitwell

Upsetting, but important for all those in denial to see. Someone needs to make a Netflix style documentary about Epstein, Maxwell, Prince Andrew and whole cabal of child sex offenders, convicted or not.

It’s shocking how eager some people are to gloss over the fact that children were being sexually abused and exploited on a massive scale by powerful, wealthy and entitled men like PA and their enablers. It is simply indefensible that anyone, let alone the British Royal family, should be condoning such behaviour and mollycoddling its perpetrators including the Duke of York (and well done York, for giving up on your erstwhile efforts to dissociate your city from the paedo Prince - whatever happened to that??).

It puts an entire nation to shame. Which is probably why there are so many apologists, who’d rather downplay and minimise Andrew’s behaviour while banging endlessly on and on about Meghan and Harry.

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Roussette · 04/01/2024 19:17

Well said @TallerSally

And Scotland wants to remove his Earl of Inverness title. 72percent.

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 19:17

@unbelieveable22
until Andrew is convicted of child abuse I will not understand the total stupidity and sheep like mentality of those calling him a paedophile with absolutely no proof at all.
in my opinion he's a sleazy arrogant creep, I didn't believe a word he said in that interview but a child abuser and paedophile. Not without proof.

SparklingBubbly · 04/01/2024 19:22

He is revolting 🤮🤮🤮

Hopefully this is properly the end of his public life

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 19:22

A Parenting forum that asks for no proof, just Well his mates a paedophile so he must be. He's friends with one so he must be. By the way one of those 'shocking and scandalous pictures was of Ghislane Maxwell. Not a child if you want to throw mud, go ahead but by and with your baseless accusations you'll come unstuck.
Ghislane Maxwell an abused child.

keylemon · 04/01/2024 19:26

@Theasparrot You have not idea the agenda of some posters here. The obsession against the RF is something else. Hate for the royals and unconditional love for M & H. Lol

In the real world people are less black and white. Open to discuss and question and see different perspectives.

Roussette · 04/01/2024 19:26

He is not a paedophile and no one should call Andrew that. It takes away from what is being discussed on these threads.

Roussette · 04/01/2024 19:27

SparklingBubbly · 04/01/2024 19:22

He is revolting 🤮🤮🤮

Hopefully this is properly the end of his public life

He wants it all buried and forgotten and to return to public life.

It won't happen.

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 19:30

This child this woman that you think is a child..

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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?
Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 19:33

TallerSally · 04/01/2024 19:10

Thanks for posting these, @LadyWhitwell

Upsetting, but important for all those in denial to see. Someone needs to make a Netflix style documentary about Epstein, Maxwell, Prince Andrew and whole cabal of child sex offenders, convicted or not.

It’s shocking how eager some people are to gloss over the fact that children were being sexually abused and exploited on a massive scale by powerful, wealthy and entitled men like PA and their enablers. It is simply indefensible that anyone, let alone the British Royal family, should be condoning such behaviour and mollycoddling its perpetrators including the Duke of York (and well done York, for giving up on your erstwhile efforts to dissociate your city from the paedo Prince - whatever happened to that??).

It puts an entire nation to shame. Which is probably why there are so many apologists, who’d rather downplay and minimise Andrew’s behaviour while banging endlessly on and on about Meghan and Harry.

I think that @LadyWhitwell may have missed a few words out.

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 19:35

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