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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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Roussette · 16/01/2024 19:50

Livingtothefull · 16/01/2024 19:46

I wonder how the poor little girl is supposed to feel one day, reading about claims that her choice of name upset her great-grandmother.

What's that to do with what we're talking about?

SparklingBubbly · 16/01/2024 19:54

Livingtothefull · 16/01/2024 19:46

I wonder how the poor little girl is supposed to feel one day, reading about claims that her choice of name upset her great-grandmother.

How are the Wales kids going to feel reading claims that daddy only married mummy because she “fit the mould”? You live by the sword, you die by the sword 🤷🏾‍♀️

SparklingBubbly · 16/01/2024 19:56

Reminds me… yesterday I listened to a podcast about Prince Andrew and it made me so angry: Andrew Gold interviewing Norman Baker. Andrew is a truly awful and delusional man.

Livingtothefull · 16/01/2024 19:59

SparklingBubbly · 16/01/2024 19:54

How are the Wales kids going to feel reading claims that daddy only married mummy because she “fit the mould”? You live by the sword, you die by the sword 🤷🏾‍♀️

Well Harry & Meghan, unlike the Wales's, chose to step away. I am anti-monarchist so would rather all the children concerned were spared this.

Roussette · 16/01/2024 20:04

SparklingBubbly · 16/01/2024 19:56

Reminds me… yesterday I listened to a podcast about Prince Andrew and it made me so angry: Andrew Gold interviewing Norman Baker. Andrew is a truly awful and delusional man.

Oh ... I could do with listening to that, I've found it, but it will make me really angry too...
Thx

Livingtothefull · 16/01/2024 20:05

Roussette · 16/01/2024 19:50

What's that to do with what we're talking about?

It is about the scrupulous care being taken to protect Charles' brother Andrew, in contrast with the lack of care for Charles' granddaughter.

TallerSally · 16/01/2024 20:07

Eeeewwwww!

and have you noticed how if you Google Prince Andrew a bunch of pictures appear of him looking regal and princely and respectable?

Methinks the photos have been Google search optimised as part of Operation Rehabilitate Prince Andrew of Sleaze!

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TallerSally · 16/01/2024 20:20

Agree. You can tell they are just raring to go for H&M’s children.

Anything to try to save the Paedo-befriending Prince.

When, oh when are they going to strip him of his titles??? How come he is still Duke of York???

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StormzyinaTCup · 16/01/2024 20:36

Ok, so I did just that and this was the fifth picture that came up for me - nothing regal looking about this 😁

Also, I think it was the 'Legends of Aviation Awards' that knocked Andrew off the top spot, baby names is merely bringing up the rear. The RF owe Omid Scobie for that one.

Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?
PassifloraEvangelist · 16/01/2024 21:36

looks like he’s been eating lots of pork pies in his isolation room..

AliceOlive · 16/01/2024 22:15

It is odd that OmiSco would involve himself in this but clearly BP is playing the very long game. His very conception may have been part of this plan.

Livingtothefull · 17/01/2024 08:16

So intent on they on hurting Harry & Meghan and keeping them as hate figures, that they want to challenge their little daughter's right to her own name. Anything to distract from Andrew who is safely in the Royal fold, and ensure that any mud is thrown at H&M instead of him.

Do Royalists enjoy what this is making all this look like as a country?

BrittleVeneers · 17/01/2024 08:39

@Livingtothefull agree. Questioning a 3 year olds ‘right’ to her own name is low. I’m seeing so many comments saying exactly this.

Novella4 · 17/01/2024 08:54

Well said @Livingtothefull

LolaSmiles · 17/01/2024 09:52

Livingtothefull
It's always presented as a either/or when it comes to Harry and Meghan and Andrew, and criticism or questioning of H&M is often presented as people being royalist.

I think it is unusual for anyone (royal or not) to use a relative's pet name for their child in a situation of low/no contact where the parents have substantial issues about their family and harmful family dynamics. That's nothing about denying a 3 year old's right to her name. It's just a basic comment about the parents behaviour.

I also think it's very convenient that a H&M story goes to press when it looks like bad news about Andrew is coming out. Like you say, it seems to be to detract from others in the firm.

I also think Andrew's behaviour has been appalling.

Outside of the royal family board a lot of people hold a range of opinions about public figures that aren't based on taking sides in a big family spat.

CathyorClaire · 17/01/2024 10:13

looks like he’s been eating lots of pork pies in his isolation room..

Makes a change from telling them...

Livingtothefull · 17/01/2024 13:05

Prince Harry has claimed that he was in fact in regular contact with the Queen when she was alive (regardless of his relationships with other members of the RF. He (through his spokesman) claimed that he had discussed the choice of name with her beforehand and would not have used it if she had not been supportive.

This isn't a new story from the Palace but an old one, the latest reports are conveniently timed to muddy the waters and distract the focus from Andrew.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57408163

The Duchess and Duke of Sussex

Harry and Meghan did not ask Queen to use Lilibet name - Palace source

But a spokesperson for Prince Harry and Meghan insists the Queen was asked, and was supportive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57408163

Roussette · 17/01/2024 13:15

There is a thread on H&M's little girl's name. This isn't it, is it??

Can we not use this thread about Andrew for that? Surely...

AliceOlive · 17/01/2024 13:16

@Livingtothefull Was the aviation award announcement, also meant to distract? It was even better timed to do so.

TallerSally · 17/01/2024 13:56

CathyorClaire · 17/01/2024 10:13

looks like he’s been eating lots of pork pies in his isolation room..

Makes a change from telling them...

LoL! 😂

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TallerSally · 17/01/2024 14:10

Operation Rehabilitate Porkies Prince Andrew is in full swing, alongside Operation Annihilate Prince Harry and Meghan (and slowly but surely, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet).

All Andrew’s family is teaming up to support him: I saw Fergie allowed to contribute to a piece on Kate Moss in this week’s Standard, while Princess Eugenie was allowed by Theresa May to actually make a speech… at Davos (World Economic Forum attended by global corporate CEOs and heads of state)… on HUMAN TRAFFICKING, of all things!!!

If her family had stopped Epstein at the time instead of cavorting with and supporting him that would have had some real impact on human trafficking, perhaps more than hypocritically mouthing off about it between champagne cocktails at Davos?

This must be adding insult to injury for Epstein victims all over the world, and shows that even though the British establishment is deeply embarrassed by the Prince Andrew scandal and their own attempts to cover it up, they are persisting with the cover-up regardless.

”Keep trying “, I say - the stench around Prince Andrew and by association the entire Royal family is not going away any time soon.

Nor should it, given their despicable conduct.

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KarenNotAKaren · 17/01/2024 14:11

I don’t think he remembered her.

Hear me out.

I don’t think he remembered her because she was one of many, many trafficked young women he had sex with and he can’t tell one from the other.

I also suspect Epstein’s little friends weren’t explicitly told “She’s a sex trafficked teenager” but they KNEW it wasn’t at all above board and thought ignorance was bliss as long as they got their penis tended to.

KarenNotAKaren · 17/01/2024 14:14

All Andrew’s family is teaming up to support him

TBF I don’t think the women in his life who want to do things away from him should be stopped because of their dad.

I’d hate to be punished because of the actions of my father that I had absolutely nothing to do with

I think you’re wrong about Archie and Lillibet - why would Charles do that to his actual grandchildren? Harry and Meghan largely cause their own bad headlines.

He hasn’t reinstated his brother either on any roles in any way

Roussette · 17/01/2024 14:18

He hasn’t reinstated his brother either on any roles in any way

Of course he hasn't! Apart from there being a huge public outcry if he was back to normal durites, he has done more damage to the RF than anyone, and he can't be holding military roles or whatever.
Charles is trying to get him out of his massive Royal Estate and into somewhere smaller, but Andrew is digging his heels in. I bet he is.

SparklingBubbly · 17/01/2024 14:18

KarenNotAKaren · 17/01/2024 14:11

I don’t think he remembered her.

Hear me out.

I don’t think he remembered her because she was one of many, many trafficked young women he had sex with and he can’t tell one from the other.

I also suspect Epstein’s little friends weren’t explicitly told “She’s a sex trafficked teenager” but they KNEW it wasn’t at all above board and thought ignorance was bliss as long as they got their penis tended to.

Agree

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