Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

I think you’re right.

I mean they’re all wildly out of touch with normality but KCIII comes across as someone who would absolutely despise the attention using sex trafficked women brings. Whereas with the Queen he seemed to remain The Favourite Child.

No one is allowed to slag the Queen off though apparently she is infalliable, always was and always will be, probably up in Heaven being perfect and getting fawned over

Charles is trying to get him out of his massive Royal Estate and into somewhere smaller, but Andrew is digging his heels in.

As we know, King Charles had no difficulty evicting Harry & Meghan from Frogmore despite it being gifted to them by the Queen, so his alleged 'inability' to evict Andrew who has been accused of rape of an underage girl and who still has a thick cloud of suspicion of child sexual abuse hanging over him, is obviously just posturing to create the appearance of doing something about Andrew, while doing absolutely NOTHING, other than desperately try to rehability him.

It has to be said again and again that King Charles's conduct in this sordid Prince Andrew affair suggests he doesn't see anything wrong with cavorting with paedophiles like Epstein, and the long list of other paedos he has been friendly and supportive of (including the abject paedophile priest Peter Ball - see below).

As a reminder here's what Charles wrote to Peter Ball after he'd been caught:

“I wish I could do more,”
“I feel so desperately strongly about the monstrous wrongs that have been done to you and the way you have been treated. It’s appalling that the archbishop has gone back on what he told me, before Xmas, that he was hoping to restore you to some kind of ministry in the church. I suspect you are absolutely right — it is due to fear of the media.”

This continues to reflect badly on him and the entire Royal family.

King Charles had no difficulty evicting Harry & Meghan from Frogmore

Oh no? He left them homeless? That is wretched. What did they do?

Apparently only under a lot of pressure from Anne. They didn’t live there. It just sat empty.

It’s so pathetic isn’t - they could no longer live in daddy’s house because they lived in another country. It’s so grotesquely overly extravagant to have a large home to nip back into when you come back into the country once in a flood. And even more grotesque to strop about it being given to someone who will actually live in it

Cruel, cruel woman. We cannot imagine the pain of no longer having an empty place to call home. In another country. Which we despise.

It’s so grotesquely overly extravagant to have a large home to nip back into when you come back into the country once in a flood. And even more grotesque to strop about it being given to someone who will actually live in it

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Frogmore Cottage was handed to Eugenie and Jack - and aren't they living in Portugal now?

Harry & Meghan paid more than a year's worth of rent after they left, the Royal Report shows this. If it was empty, that was up to them. Oh, and £2.4M on renovations. The RF got a good deal.
Charles wanted Andrew to move into it. He's refused. It's obviously not regal enough for him, he wants to stay on his royal estate.

I think Harry and Meghan were allowing Eugenie and Jack to use it previously. No idea. All I know, is I don't care if you get "evicted" from your house after you abandoned it and the entire country in a huff.

Well... they paid for it, it's up to them isn't it?

That's all wrong about the renovations. It's been covered extensively. They paid for the special customizations and fittings that they wanted. The actual renovations were paid for out of other funds. (Which, by the way, one can't credibly simultaneously bitch about taxpayer dollars paying for things while also bitching about the H&M having to pay for the same thing.)

It wasn't even a proper eviction. Their lease was not renewed once it ended.

That is all.

The Royal Report saying they paid £2.4M is wrong then. You ought to let the Palace know, it was all over everywhere at the time.

Prince Harry and Meghan paid more than a year’s worth of rent for their stay in Frogmore Cottage, royal accounts have revealed.
Details published in the latest Sovereign Grant Report, which outlines the annual spending by the Royal Family, show that the £2.4m payment made by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in 2020 did not just reimburse the money they spent on the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage.

Yes, it's absolutely up to them who used it while it was still under lease. And it was. Therefore a bit silly to bring up Eugenie and Jack living out of the country but still being allowed to use it as if it's more "evidence" of H&M being treated differently to the others. It was H&M allowing them to use it.

They paid rent and for it to be outfitted the way they wanted it.
They did not pay for restorations.

Perhaps I am remembering incorrectly. If so, sue me.

Some people have it so hard <wipes tear>

Almost as tragic as when Harry “I’m just like you” Sussex sat in an £8m mansion and at the age of nearly 40 moaned to the world that daddy had cut him off financially <wails in despair>

I’ve no idea!

There’s a housing crisis, it’s reaching alarming levels and it really makes me seethe to think these lovely family home sit empty in case the aristocracy want to nip home for an Armani themed baby shower of a Sloane ranger friend

Of course he does, he’s an entitled cunt. Does anyone else remember an incident where he crashed his Range Rover and then left it for the little people to clean up?

Im afraid I have no sympathy for H&M and the cottage - it’s not like they’d have struggled to pay that rent! And they did do a runner. If they were normal people on a 12 month fixed term AST They’d have had to pay rent on it.

I think you are right . The amount repaid included an unspecified amount for rent so it wasn’t clear what was paid for what.
As far as I can see the issue with Andrew is the length of his lease . If it’s true that the King is going to stop paying for his security then he would be better to move to someplace which comes under automatic Royal Protection such as Frogmore Cottage.

https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/status/1631013095228297222?lang=en

Others will see this as Charles being strong and making a stand against a couple who have thrown grenade after grenade. But the claim from H&M’s ‘people’ that Frogmore is still a family home with ‘filled closets’ does not stand up to scrutiny. Here’s them packing it up.

If you do click that link, also please check out Emily Andrews pinned tweets.

So this is turning into another H&M-hating thread. Plenty of those after all.....I thought it might just be a matter of time. Anything to distract from concerns about Andrew's conduct.

The RF can be quick and brutal when they want to be. Divine right to rule, contempt for us commoners, hoping they can wait it out and turn around public opinion like they did with Camilla. It surely is not very surprising that a family who have been fawned over their entire lives may feel they have superior judgement and that the needs of people outside of their circle are not important. Charles, for all his liberal appearance and leanings, is as reactionary as they come.

It is worth noting that Andrew's daughter Eugenie supports a charity which works against - of all things - human trafficking. Although I am no supporter of the monarchy I don't doubt that what she does is sincere and I certainly don't think she should be automatically tainted by association with her father. But it does make his claims that he didn't realise that the girls he met through Epstein were victims, ring hollow; he had the means to be aware if he had cared.

The amount repaid included an unspecified amount for rent so it wasn’t clear what was paid for what.

Yep.

The £2.4m was repaid to much trumpeting in the press although a later drip feed revealed it had somehow also come to include eighteen months rent without actually increasing.

A further drip feed revealed that not only had it not increased it was also deemed to have released them of any further rental obligations saving Harold several hundred thousand ££ in the process.

Both sleights of hand deprived the Crown Estate of income and given the Sovereign Grant is guaranteed never to reduce even if CE profits fall it meant it was the taxpayer who was left out of pocket.