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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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Roussette · 12/01/2024 15:20

Take what as a 'no'?

Do you expect me to know everything??

Very strange.

Samcro · 12/01/2024 16:11

wasn't VG the victim.

AliceOlive · 12/01/2024 16:42

VG was a victim and also claims to have recruited and groomed many more victims.

Roussette · 12/01/2024 17:18

AliceOlive · 12/01/2024 16:42

VG was a victim and also claims to have recruited and groomed many more victims.

As did the innocent victims in Rochdale. Maybe you are not up on sex trafficking of vulnerable girls and what happens. They are in a cycle of coercion. And the recruiting happens with many sex trafficking victims. She was used by Epstein to bring in more girls. He had a sexual abuse pyramid scheme and he would do anything to get more new young girls

You sound very much as if you are victim blaming

meercat23 · 12/01/2024 17:25

I think that some people have an idea that all trafficking is of the kind we sometimes read about where girls and women are brought into a country illegally and then held captive by force in a form of slavery, made to work for their traffickers through menial work or more often sex work.

Of course this kind of trafficking exists and is evil but there is also trafficking that snares in women and girls through manipulation rather than coercion. Encouraging them to think they are being given an opportunity and it is only when their eyes begin to open and they try to break free that the coercion comes into play.

It is still trafficking though.

Rockybooboo · 12/01/2024 18:49

AliceOlive · 12/01/2024 16:42

VG was a victim and also claims to have recruited and groomed many more victims.

She was a kid who'd been brainwashed and was probably scared of the powerful men.

AliceOlive · 12/01/2024 19:44

@Rockybooboo Many who were victims go on to victimize others. There are varying levels of culpability. We probably draw our lines in different places, which is absolutely understandable to me given that we all have different life experience.

VG didn't deserve anything that happened to her. Yet she did play a crucial role in doing major damage to many much younger girls even once she was older. I think it's for those who were harmed by her role in their victimization to decide if they forgive her for that or not. I know that I would likely not be able to do so.

She said she was donating the money she was paid. I hope she does. I think it would probably help VG herself to do so more than it helps anyone else.

upinaballoon · 12/01/2024 21:49

Did VG just walk away from that life when she wanted to? I know I once knew the name of one woman who worked in the house but she wasn't one of the 'girls'. There was a video. I think she was threatened on the phone by G. Maxwell, iirc.

Rockybooboo · 12/01/2024 22:20

Epstein was so rich and powerful. I can't imagine it would be easy to get out of his grip. Weinstein was the same.

SparklingBubbly · 13/01/2024 18:36

Apparently the poor poppet locked himself in a room

I imagine there was much rejoicing amongst his staff

Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?
Maireas · 13/01/2024 18:38

Sadly, @SparklingBubbly , he appears to have emerged from said locked room.

CathyorClaire · 13/01/2024 20:23

Apparently the poor poppet locked himself in a room

If only it was an impossible to crack escape room...

PassifloraEvangelist · 13/01/2024 21:18

Killing animals must make him feel so much better…

jeffgoldblum · 13/01/2024 23:52

Almost all the royals kill stuff !
Which ones do you mean?

SparklingBubbly · 14/01/2024 00:49

CathyorClaire · 13/01/2024 20:23

Apparently the poor poppet locked himself in a room

If only it was an impossible to crack escape room...

With a leopard!

GothConversionTherapy · 14/01/2024 05:34

With all his teddy bears to keep him company

SparklingBubbly · 14/01/2024 23:28
crushed noo GIF

When you lock yourself in your room in a huff aged 63 because some meanies released more allegations about you but your staff didn’t plump up your teddies in the right order

TallerSally · 16/01/2024 18:19

Well well, nice little trick being played on us right now.

Manufactured outrage about a relative irrelevance, the name given to a small baby, seems to have rather conveniently wiped Paedo-befriending Prince Andrew off the front pages.

Anyone who's read Spare was just waiting for this to happen - interesting that Buckingham Palace waited 2 weeks before counter-attacking with their Meghan-bashing story. Maybe they were hoping it wouldn't be too obvious.

Anyway, the latest on the "not-sweating through my daily massages with underage girls" Prince is that he regrets not denouncing the "fake photo" of him with his sleazy arms around Virginia Giuffre. Presumably he regrets it to the tune of the £10m+ he paid to settle out of court while claiming he'd never met her?

There's a ready remedy for such regret: talk to the FBI!

How easy it is to issue denials from the comfort of your taxpayer-funded 30-bedroom 340m Royal Lodge, that your brother the King is apparently too weak to dislodge you from...

But that's NOTHING in comparison to what you name a baby - clearly, that's the REAL scandal!

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Novella4 · 16/01/2024 18:59

Agreed @TallerSally - but the attempt to make the plebs look away from Andrew has also had the effect of making the queen look like a petty nightmare .

Atethehalloweenchocs · 16/01/2024 19:06

Yes, it all seems to illustrate his point (Harry's) doesnt it - find the scapegoat in each generation, and trot out a story about them to deflect. I would guess that what has brought this on is the fact that there are increasing questions about Charles and why he continues to support his brother.

TallerSally · 16/01/2024 19:34

Indeed @Novella4

the attempt to make the plebs look away from Andrew has also had the effect of making the queen look like a petty nightmare

What an astonishing own-goal!

I read somewhere that the book in question quotes the multi-billionaire Queen Elizabeth and one of the richest women on planet Earth sobbing and saying the name Lillibet was ‘all she had’. Really?????

”As angry as she’s ever been “ over a baby name. Really????

Are we to conclude that she was less angry about her Paedo-befriending regular Epstein visiting son? Or about mass extermination during WWII? Or almost anything else really! Poor woman must be turning in her grave, to be made to look so foolishly petulant.

The Palace’s rush to serve up some M&H Hatin’ red meat for the populace to feast on, while they resume Operation Rehabilitate Prince Andrew, may have led them to make a serious blunder indeed…

Some of us are not so easily fooled?

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TallerSally · 16/01/2024 19:40

I would guess that what has brought this on is the fact that there are increasing questions about Charles and why he continues to support his brother.

Agree 100%

Things were getting seriously uncomfortable for King Charles, with more and more articles questioning his judgement in essentially standing by his seedy embarrassment of a brother. Especially when contrasted with his expedient meanness towards his own son.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/its-time-the-king-distanced-himself-from-prince-andrew/

It's time the King distanced himself from Prince Andrew

King Charles deserves criticism in his role as monarch for his continued loyalty to his disgraced younger brother Prince Andrew.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/its-time-the-king-distanced-himself-from-prince-andrew/

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Livingtothefull · 16/01/2024 19:46

I wonder how the poor little girl is supposed to feel one day, reading about claims that her choice of name upset her great-grandmother.

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