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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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alltootired · 10/01/2024 10:44

@Angrycat2768 Yes Prince Andrew was so obviously lying in his TV interview. It beggars belief that people still defend him after such obvious lies.

The recent documents allege that Prince Andrew took part in an orgy with children. I wonder if his lawyers were afraid that more evidence would come out about that if the case had gone to court?

Rockybooboo · 10/01/2024 12:02

Alalain · 10/01/2024 10:39

The usual propaganda ( tv news , tabloids ) doesnt reach them -hence the Twitter bots etc but they are easily spotted .

Actually, I think TV and tabloids are the lesser of two evils, TikTok, Twitter, Youtube (and god knows what else) are the ones to really be concerned about, and thats what the younger generation are using for their news and views. Just look at Andrew Tate and the amount of followers he had, young people impressed by his lifestyle and hanging off every misogynistic word.

Anyway, we have strayed totally off topic now.

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There is a wide range of content on Youtube and you get a lot of different views. Yes Andrew Tate is awful but you get some Tiktokers who speak against him. If you read the Daily Mail, you get one point of view. I think my daughter has a much better knowlege of The Royals than i did as I only saw praise of them growing uo where on Tiktok, she hears about the bad stuff as well.

User135644 · 10/01/2024 12:09

Rockybooboo · 10/01/2024 12:02

There is a wide range of content on Youtube and you get a lot of different views. Yes Andrew Tate is awful but you get some Tiktokers who speak against him. If you read the Daily Mail, you get one point of view. I think my daughter has a much better knowlege of The Royals than i did as I only saw praise of them growing uo where on Tiktok, she hears about the bad stuff as well.

Even the BBC (supposedly the bastions of neutrality) have always fawned over the royals and the establishment.

The likes of Charles and William and Kate have got in bed with the Murdochs and the Mail in order for favourable coverage and to peddle the establishment line. Harry has gone against that and felt the full force of it. You can tell the demographic of those who spit the most venom at Harry and Meghan because they still read newspapers.

AliceOlive · 10/01/2024 16:22

I think my daughter has a much better knowlege of The Royals than i did as I only saw praise of them growing uo

Did you grow up in a 1760 nunnery? They’ve been the subject of tabloid criticism for many decades now.

2dogsandabudgie · 10/01/2024 17:39

User135644 - That's not entirely true. Prince William made a claim against Rupert Murdoch's newspaper group in 2020 and received a large sum of money in an out of court settlement, so he is not afraid to speak out against the press.

Rockybooboo · 10/01/2024 18:06

AliceOlive · 10/01/2024 16:22

I think my daughter has a much better knowlege of The Royals than i did as I only saw praise of them growing uo

Did you grow up in a 1760 nunnery? They’ve been the subject of tabloid criticism for many decades now.

Well I didn't read the tabloids until I was a bit older but at school it was definitely the Royal family were wonderful during history lessons.

Rockybooboo · 10/01/2024 18:08

2dogsandabudgie · 10/01/2024 17:39

User135644 - That's not entirely true. Prince William made a claim against Rupert Murdoch's newspaper group in 2020 and received a large sum of money in an out of court settlement, so he is not afraid to speak out against the press.

He received money in private. He didn't publicly speak out against them.

AliceOlive · 10/01/2024 18:09

Are they using TikTok in school these days?

2dogsandabudgie · 10/01/2024 18:14

Rockybooboo - Where on earth did you go to school that the current Royal Family was part of your history lessons. My daughter studied The Tudors and Henry VIII but he definitely wasn't portrayed as wonderful.

Rockybooboo · 10/01/2024 18:17

2dogsandabudgie · 10/01/2024 18:14

Rockybooboo - Where on earth did you go to school that the current Royal Family was part of your history lessons. My daughter studied The Tudors and Henry VIII but he definitely wasn't portrayed as wonderful.

I went to a village school and it was the silver jubilee.

derxa · 10/01/2024 18:23

2dogsandabudgie · 10/01/2024 18:14

Rockybooboo - Where on earth did you go to school that the current Royal Family was part of your history lessons. My daughter studied The Tudors and Henry VIII but he definitely wasn't portrayed as wonderful.

I used to be a teacher and according to the curriculum the only monarchs who ever existed were Henry VIII and Victoria.

2dogsandabudgie · 10/01/2024 18:33

Rockybooboo - So it would have been primary school and the year 1977. You would have been learning about the Queen and it would have been age appropriate.

LittleTeawithmilk · 10/01/2024 23:05

I grew up in a former British colony where, in school, we were taught Royal Family members were all things good. Propaganda, essentially.

I remember having to walk for miles in the beating sun and sit on a treeless patch of dirt waiting for Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip to pass by. We were given little flags on a stick and instructed to wave enthusiastically - for the few seconds they were in our view - as they passed by in an open top car. I saw the top part of their heads. The flags were collected, and then we were all marched back to school.

The least they could have done is worn a tiara or two.

The best part of the day was being allowed to line up and drink from the one water bubbler on the way back. The day sticks in my mind because it’s the first time I ever an experienced migraine, and no wonder.

skullbabe · 10/01/2024 23:40

I think my daughter has a much better knowlege of The Royals than i did as I only saw praise of them growing up.

I think that there was criticism of the royal family when I was growing up but it was about things like spending and work ethic with a little bit of salaciousness and scandal sprinkled in. More and more young people are learning things I have only learned recently - for example the exemption of the royal household to equalities and other similar legislation, the exemption of the royal family of things like inheritance tax, the opaqueness of the difference between their private and public estates etc . Many are not impressed…..by any of them.

Rockybooboo · 10/01/2024 23:43

LittleTeawithmilk · 10/01/2024 23:05

I grew up in a former British colony where, in school, we were taught Royal Family members were all things good. Propaganda, essentially.

I remember having to walk for miles in the beating sun and sit on a treeless patch of dirt waiting for Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip to pass by. We were given little flags on a stick and instructed to wave enthusiastically - for the few seconds they were in our view - as they passed by in an open top car. I saw the top part of their heads. The flags were collected, and then we were all marched back to school.

The least they could have done is worn a tiara or two.

The best part of the day was being allowed to line up and drink from the one water bubbler on the way back. The day sticks in my mind because it’s the first time I ever an experienced migraine, and no wonder.

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Yes sounds like my school but in the UK. We all went to Windsor which wasn't far from us to queue up to watch the Royal family trot.by. It was boring.

AliceOlive · 11/01/2024 02:23

Sounds like a pretty typical school outing to me. Shit, they took my class to the capital rotunda to see Colonel Sanders body lying in state when he died. Kentucky Fried Chicken being very important historically, apparently.

AliceOlive · 11/01/2024 02:50

They should have stayed focused on spelling based on my last post. Capitol Building.

LittleTeawithmilk · 11/01/2024 07:44

Were you being propagandised to Colonel Sanders, do you think?

Because we absolutely were propagandised in regard to Queen and Britain. And that trek to see the Queen pass by was only a small part of it. We learned barely any History that did not involve Britain in one way or another. We studied British literature. Never the literature of our country.

AliceOlive · 11/01/2024 10:13

@LittleTeawithmilk

I think we probably were. 😂

Kidding aside, I don’t doubt your experience in a former colony was very different from mine (albeit also in a former colony). How recently “former” was it?

Fascinating topic actually. Curricula and its impacts decades later.

We pledged allegiance to the flag every morning. There was always a strongly pro American, “greatest country on earth” bent.

Otherwise, at that age, I can’t remember what they were teaching us. Suspect the field trip was just something to do. Or I’m completely misremembering how I ended up there in the first place.

Rockybooboo · 11/01/2024 10:58

I remember from Eire and mentioned the Royal family, they were taught a very different perspective of the Royal family.

ChanelNo19EDT · 11/01/2024 13:20

I wasn't taught anything at all about the royal family. No wait, I did do renaissance history briefly. It's not we are taught /told what to think.

StrawberriesSW1 · 12/01/2024 14:02

rwalker · 04/01/2024 15:03

problem is all the information we get is circumstantial and speculation

your own post includes “ in all likelihood and undoubtedly”
you obviously hate the RF
but after following this there’s speculation and association but we seem to be lacking facts and hard truths

Yet he paid off his accuser over £10million in spite of not knowing her and he'd never worked for a living. Tax payers money again.
Now they're using media to twist facts about Harry's award to distract the populace.

AliceOlive · 12/01/2024 14:57

I thought his Mum paid them with her private money? Did VG ever make that donation she promised?

Roussette · 12/01/2024 14:59

Did Andrew ever make that donation he promised?

AliceOlive · 12/01/2024 15:15

I’ll take that as a no

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