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Endgame Part 6

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 23/12/2023 13:57

A turkey, absolute balls of stuffing or a right Christmas cracker? We'll let you decide. Please keep the discussion interesting, civilised and relevant - the Holiday Armadillo is lurking!

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shockthemonkey · 21/01/2024 14:39

🙄
"I swear on my family's lives there were no names in the script I sent"
"Translation error"....

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 21/01/2024 14:42

H&M were unfortunate in that covid hit and the world went into lockdown just after they did their flounce. They weren't able to get out and about 'building their brand'. People had more serious things to think about, and by the time it was all over, they were a bit yesterday's news.

if they had known what was going to happen, perhaps they'd have delayed their exit, and been seen having Zoom meetings with nhs workers.

Their financial problems could be reduced if they lived in a less expensive house, in a less expensive part of the world. I'm sure the choice of California (and the possibility of mixing with A Listers) was down to Meghan. Harry might well have been happier living on a modest ranch in Canada.

CoffeeCantata · 21/01/2024 14:51

Honoria
Their financial problems could be reduced if they lived in a less expensive house, in a less expensive part of the world. I'm sure the choice of California (and the possibility of mixing with A Listers) was down to Meghan. Harry might well have been happier living on a modest ranch in Canada.

Definitely!

And Harry's penchant for that most expensive of all sports: polo.

I bet keeping up with the polo set in California is one of the areas where Harry is discovering just how privileged his UK life was, and how much it costs to indulge this hobby now he has to put his hand in his own pocket. Keeping up with the film stars is going to be unsustainable unless something changes.

I'm guessing that neither of them would want to start looking at areas where they could economise, though.

Gardeningtime · 21/01/2024 14:55

Can you imagine the difference if they’d used the platforms they had when they left, for good instead of the negative . Used them For a positive message, just how well they’d be perceived now?

if they went on Oprah, said we love our family, thank them for everything, we want to make a go of it on our own, make our own money, do charitable work, these are the activities we will do, these are our projects.

If Megan had did all her own podcast interviews, if they’d focused on other projects with Netflix first ,homelessness, dv, human rights injustices, child poverty, hired experts on each subject , worked with them, then did the docu series talking about their work, put a positive spin on leaving. Linked the pod casts to those Netflix projects, Went back and visited the royals , took the kids, developed a positive relationship, spent Xmas with them, birthdays, visited the queen when she was at the end. Supported Harry’s family.

Sued thr press only for mistruths the press put out, not what harry and Megan did, but quietly like Elton John, gave any profits to charity, spent a day or so a week working for archewell on charitable endeavours linked to their projects. Raised money for them.

then Put a book out talking positively of their experiences , dropped a little benign gossip in. Some funny stories, talked candidly about the exit but with a balanced view accepting their own part.

theyd have the world at their feet right . Its just really sad they picked money, fame, celebrity, negativity.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/01/2024 15:43

Gardeningtime · 21/01/2024 14:55

Can you imagine the difference if they’d used the platforms they had when they left, for good instead of the negative . Used them For a positive message, just how well they’d be perceived now?

if they went on Oprah, said we love our family, thank them for everything, we want to make a go of it on our own, make our own money, do charitable work, these are the activities we will do, these are our projects.

If Megan had did all her own podcast interviews, if they’d focused on other projects with Netflix first ,homelessness, dv, human rights injustices, child poverty, hired experts on each subject , worked with them, then did the docu series talking about their work, put a positive spin on leaving. Linked the pod casts to those Netflix projects, Went back and visited the royals , took the kids, developed a positive relationship, spent Xmas with them, birthdays, visited the queen when she was at the end. Supported Harry’s family.

Sued thr press only for mistruths the press put out, not what harry and Megan did, but quietly like Elton John, gave any profits to charity, spent a day or so a week working for archewell on charitable endeavours linked to their projects. Raised money for them.

then Put a book out talking positively of their experiences , dropped a little benign gossip in. Some funny stories, talked candidly about the exit but with a balanced view accepting their own part.

theyd have the world at their feet right . Its just really sad they picked money, fame, celebrity, negativity.

Another fab post. Maybe somewhere in a parallel universe this is happening right now…

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 21/01/2024 15:53
guys explosions GIF

Noticeable, too, that the keener supporters are now absent when Harry does something unarguably foolish - even on the "Harry withdraws lawsuit", which was genuine news rather than rehashing

I think it's quiet, because they all exploded their own heads the other day with Serena Williams' fruitage.

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MrsFinkelstein · 21/01/2024 16:04

What happened with Serena Williams?

mrsmingleton · 21/01/2024 16:23

Oprah wasn't interested in a happy family interview though - she wanted that nasty aspect. I have never liked her and think she has her own ( obvious) personal agenda.

I just read that all of her Twitter comments from the time of the Meghan and Harry broadcast have been removed. I don't have twitter X. Can anyone confirm this?

ajandjjmum · 21/01/2024 16:35

Mylovelygreendress · 21/01/2024 13:44

Is Anne not in charge of that money ? Happy to be corrected .

I think she is. I also read recently that arrangements are in hand to protect the amount due on Harry's 40th, although I have absolutely no proof of it - does make sense though.

Raincloudsonasunnyday · 21/01/2024 17:15

My view is that Meghan has been counseled (possibly by her mum - if Meghan were my DD, it’s what I’d do) that Harry is making her a laughing stock; that Harry’s family will always have his back and he and the DC will always be fine, but that the same doesn’t go for her and she needs to look out for herself; that in that marriage she is doing all the heavy lifting (such as it is) and Harry is a petulant loser who doesn’t know what work looks like; that she is looking after him; that he misses his king and country and will one day go back; that her children need the royal connection to protect their futures but she needn’t get involved and her life is in the USA etc…..and this is why we haven’t seen Meghan associated with Harry’s “professional” endeavours. She had her podcast (failure that it was) and nothing else since. She has nothing to recommend her other than her connection with Harry which is why we haven’t seen any further work output. She may well be proposing stuff, but will be stymied by a lack of talent, and an association with the RF where talent isn’t required. But if she left him, she could agree to say nothing ever about the RF in return for some cash. It’d be win win - money for her, privacy for them, she would be able to say “I can’t talk about that” and concentrate on her own work as a talk show host / red carpet walker / mover-shaker. Her children would flit back and forth. They’d never go without. She’d have max freedom if she left him and shed her ties to the RF as much as possible.

Mylovelygreendress · 21/01/2024 17:30

I don’t think it is a huge amount ( in Royal terms) - about 4/5 million . Given H and M’s hugely expensive lifestyle , that won’t last long !

upinaballoon · 21/01/2024 17:50

mrsmingleton · 21/01/2024 16:23

Oprah wasn't interested in a happy family interview though - she wanted that nasty aspect. I have never liked her and think she has her own ( obvious) personal agenda.

I just read that all of her Twitter comments from the time of the Meghan and Harry broadcast have been removed. I don't have twitter X. Can anyone confirm this?

I didn't dislike Oprah before. I didn't know everything about her but I certainly knew she had her afternoon programme on TV here and I thought she was generally a good egg. I agree with you, though, in thinking that she had her agenda in the interview, in fact I have thought that she and Meghan had the agenda and that when Harry joined in he was possibly a little bit taken aback by what they'd said and implied.

MrsFinkelstein · 21/01/2024 18:24

Maireas · 21/01/2024 16:07

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4986764-serena-williams-message
Here you go, @MrsFinkelstein . Note the deletions.

Baby Reaction GIF

Thanks.

I read it all.

My head did not explode.

Maireas · 21/01/2024 18:24

Strange, that!

ArcaneWireless · 21/01/2024 18:50

Anyone can see that there was a (quite coincidental ) mass silence about Endgame, no comments about withdrawing the lawsuit and a bit of confusion over the Legends award. However all systems go (and a gleeful go at that) about Kate’s operation.

That was a disgrace. I swerved it as I’d have gone full Deirdre.

That said, the pack can go after SF now. Quite the weekend for them…

Gardeningtime · 21/01/2024 19:33

mrsmingleton · 21/01/2024 16:23

Oprah wasn't interested in a happy family interview though - she wanted that nasty aspect. I have never liked her and think she has her own ( obvious) personal agenda.

I just read that all of her Twitter comments from the time of the Meghan and Harry broadcast have been removed. I don't have twitter X. Can anyone confirm this?

I think Oprah is a wise old bird. She gave them the platform. She didn’t lead the witness. In fact the opposite, a couple of times I saw her looking at Megan with barely concealed disdain, like she was trying to work out what she was trying to do, and if she believed her., weighing her up.

i don’t get the impression Oprah is their fan. I suspect there is no relationship there at all. She’s Just a good business woman, Oprah has no agenda on the royal family, I’d put money on that. Her agenda was to get the scoop.

dont get me wrong, she’d have known the scoop she was getting, she’d have done what was required to get that scoop. She knew how it was going to go. The first interview was always going to be a whoozy, we all knew, from the upset on the Africa tour, to their half in half out statement,to the corrections and negotiations. We all knew it was going to be explosive .

but Oprah didn’t make them do it, she didn’t even lead them, the words were all their own. Same as the Netflix docu. Netflix didn’t make them do it. They could have negotatied with Netflix on the content of other projects first.

and finally same as spare, and many of the promo interviews harry gave, all saying the same shit. None of them made Harry or Megan do it.

CathyorClaire · 21/01/2024 20:55

She’s Just a good business woman

I've always said Oprah laughed all the way to Oprah's bank with that one.

The radio silence since tells it all.

Viviennemary · 21/01/2024 22:16

I think Oprah can see through their money grabbing ways. But she's a TV presenter and it was a good scoop getting the pair on to wash their dirty linen. Still being talked about. Didn't do Oprah any harm. Can't say the same for Harry and Meghan.

1DoesNotSimplyWalkIntoMordor · 22/01/2024 10:16

Even if he was a QMP I think he would have needed to convert that within 3 years of leaving the military.

A pilots licence requires renewal I believe every 3 years.

There has been no indication (that I can find) that PH has a current pilot licence.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 22/01/2024 10:19

I'm assuming he wouldn't get one, given the confessions that he uses mushrooms and the like as a therapy.

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JSMill · 22/01/2024 10:24

Viviennemary · 21/01/2024 22:16

I think Oprah can see through their money grabbing ways. But she's a TV presenter and it was a good scoop getting the pair on to wash their dirty linen. Still being talked about. Didn't do Oprah any harm. Can't say the same for Harry and Meghan.

I remember in the interview, OW said she'd reached out to M after the engagement but the palace wouldn't allow an interview. I would have imagined that M would have been very pleased and flattered to have been approached by OW because she really is the ultimate celebrity interviewer for Americans. It would have been a sign that M had really hit the big time. She also would have been annoyed that the palace stood in her way.
I think OW has done lots of amazing things in building a huge business, giving money to charity and shining light on important issues. However I do believe there is a cold and calculating side to her. She befriended M and H and leapt at the opportunity to interview them when they were angry at the RF. I could totally believe she dropped them like bricks when they were no longer useful to her. She did use them but I don't blame her. That's the nature of her business.

1DoesNotSimplyWalkIntoMordor · 22/01/2024 10:27

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 10/01/2024 21:44

I wonder whether he'd even be licensed to fly in the US with his confessions of drug use. One more reason why a kids' charity should not be holding him up as a role model.

My previous post was in response to this.
I forgot to quote.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 22/01/2024 10:37

@1DoesNotSimplyWalkIntoMordor 🙏

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IcedPurple · 22/01/2024 11:34

But if she left him, she could agree to say nothing ever about the RF in return for some cash. It’d be win win - money for her, privacy for them,

I can't see how any senior royal would enter into what would basically be a blackmail arrangement. Besides, what more could she possibly have to say about her 2 years as a royal? We've had Oprah and several other interviews, the Netflix 'documentary', 'Spare' and obviously being Scobie's source for two books. She's surely out of material by now.

she would be able to say “I can’t talk about that” and concentrate on her own work as a talk show host / red carpet walker / mover-shaker.

But what especially qualifies her for any of that?

Take away the royal connections, and she's just another attractive middle aged woman who used to be in a popular cable TV show. There are so many of them in California. Why couldn't she have done any of this over the past 4 years, pregnancy and pandemic aside?

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