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Endgame Part 6

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 23/12/2023 13:57

A turkey, absolute balls of stuffing or a right Christmas cracker? We'll let you decide. Please keep the discussion interesting, civilised and relevant - the Holiday Armadillo is lurking!

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Serenster · 19/01/2024 18:22

DelilahJane · 19/01/2024 18:01

It would be very interesting to know what documents the Mail asked for and which ones the court agreed would need to be supplied.

At this stage, it would have been standard disclosure (which applies to all parties in all litigation). Each side has to disclose to the other:

  • the documents on which it relies,
  • those that adversely affect its case or the other party's case, and
  • those that support the other party's case.

Parties that settle just before the disclosure deadline often do so because disclosure will reveal they really have nothing they can rely on, often combined with there being undermining documents that they really don’t want to disclose.

Mylovelygreendress · 19/01/2024 18:42

Would someone please remind me how many cases are still outstanding ?

wordler · 19/01/2024 19:18

wildernesssw · 19/01/2024 14:09

I agree @DuchessOfPort .

It is glaring that Harry can't find anything positive to say about his incredibly privileged life to balance against the parts he found (understandably) intrusive.

Would he have been accepted into Sandhurst (and an elite regiment at that!) if he wasn't the Queen's grandson? How many people are in a position to develop a taste for polo? Or go on long visits to Africa (country always unspecified, which is one of my pet annoyances, as if the whole of Africa is still the playground of wealthy Europeans!)?

Sadly, thousands of children around the world have to deal with the death of a parent (one of DD's friends parents has just died from cancer 😥). All too many have to deal with the financial impact on top of the emotional impact, as they are living in, or on the brink, of real poverty.

Very few have access to any help in dealing with that - but we know Harry has access to therapy, because he has said so himself.

I think having too much money is a curse (although preferable to having nothing) - having to make a living, having to deal with reality, having to get up in the morning when you would rather hide under the duvet, is in many cases helpful. It gives a routine, structure, makes you interact with other people and get out of your comfort zone a little. Avoiding discomfort doesn't help in the long run.

I say that as someone with personal experience. I am not saying 'just get over it'. But that learning to live with trauma is about creating a daily routine that gets you through the crises, bit by bit. There is no magical answer, but there is a lot you can do to help yourself. And I am glad I had enough money for emergencies, but not so much I could insulate myself from the helpful (but uncomfortable) aspects of daily life.

I really needed to hear this today -

“learning to live with trauma is about creating a daily routine that gets you through the crises, bit by bit”

Thanks @wildernesssw

In the middle of a personal crisis that for the first time in my life I actually feel like I can’t function but that phrase really suddenly helped.

ArcaneWireless · 19/01/2024 19:21

DuchessOfPort · 19/01/2024 16:19

I can never see any evidence of Harry taking anyone’s advice ever.

Don’t rush into marriage, don’t release big and absolutely absurd statements to blindside the Queen, don’t sue the Mail for a fair comment, don’t talk to Omid Scobie any more, don’t write a tell all book gossiping about your family’s private details, don’t have key parts of your life filmed as though you always intended to have it made into a documentary, don’t release a bonkers statement about the world’s slowest “car chase” in NYC to try to draw some fantasy parallel with your dead mother, don’t moan you have no money publically when you’re a multimillionaire many times over, don’t tell everyone you asked QE2 if you could use her pet name as your daughter’s first name when you didn’t, etc etc.

Bet you he’s been told not to do every one of those things by either family, or anyone he pays to manage his image.

Brava 👏🏽

wildernesssw · 19/01/2024 19:43

@wordler if that helped then I am glad. PM if I can provide support

QueenOfHertz · 20/01/2024 08:58

Pot kettle black.

ThePoshUns · 20/01/2024 09:08

Did he accuse Travolta of 'dining out' every day for dancing with his Mum?
Does he have any idea of what Travolta has achieved over his career through hard work as opposed to being born with a silver spoon in his mouth? Arrogant twat.

ThePoshUns · 20/01/2024 09:09

*dining out every day

QueenOfHertz · 20/01/2024 09:21

He did indeed. And then waved him off dismissively.

He’s more of a twat than Prince Andrew. I’m waiting for the time that history repeats itself and Prince Harry is wandering through the Buckingham palace gardens and is wrestled to the ground by security guards.

“Don’t you know who I am?”
”No.”
”I am the Monarch’s second son.”

ThePoshUns · 20/01/2024 09:21

Who does he think he is?!

QueenOfHertz · 20/01/2024 09:24

The Monarch’s second son and 5th in line to the throne.

JSMill · 20/01/2024 09:25

ThePoshUns · 20/01/2024 09:08

Did he accuse Travolta of 'dining out' every day for dancing with his Mum?
Does he have any idea of what Travolta has achieved over his career through hard work as opposed to being born with a silver spoon in his mouth? Arrogant twat.

I can't believe he said that! How rude!

Mylovelygreendress · 20/01/2024 09:26

ThePoshUns · 20/01/2024 09:08

Did he accuse Travolta of 'dining out' every day for dancing with his Mum?
Does he have any idea of what Travolta has achieved over his career through hard work as opposed to being born with a silver spoon in his mouth? Arrogant twat.

< cringe>

wildernesssw · 20/01/2024 09:26

Yes, I listened to that a couple of times trying to work out if it was a joke that misfired. But there does seem to be an edge of anger in his voice.

Maireas · 20/01/2024 09:28

Oh come on, it must be difficult when you're nearly 40 and your Pa cuts you off from £millions and you don't want to use Mummy's £millions, so you have to cash in by selling family privacy, secrets and share disproven stories. Have a heart.

wildernesssw · 20/01/2024 09:31

Let's face it, Travolta has nothing else to sell except that dance, but Harry is protecting her memory when he talks about her.

MrsFinkelstein · 20/01/2024 09:33

wordler · 19/01/2024 19:18

I really needed to hear this today -

“learning to live with trauma is about creating a daily routine that gets you through the crises, bit by bit”

Thanks @wildernesssw

In the middle of a personal crisis that for the first time in my life I actually feel like I can’t function but that phrase really suddenly helped.

I would agree with this. I have similar experience of this (not personally, but with a much loved, very close family member). The counsellor said their job was not to "cure" the trauma/anxieties we felt in life, but to rebuild our confidence & inner strength, so that when we felt anxious/faced trauma we were able to cope with it without it breaking us. Part of that was rebuilding our daily lives so we had stability.

whattheactualfrog · 20/01/2024 09:33

Meghan didn’t go because one of the kids was sick… sick of daddy’s drama probably 😂

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Gardeningtime · 20/01/2024 09:34

Surprised and a bit amused he actually turned up to get it. And that they pretended they had a sick kid so Megan had to stay home.😂

whattheactualfrog · 20/01/2024 09:38

I wonder if Archie was doing the thing I used to do to get out of school, leaning his forehead against a radiator for 60 seconds then going muuuuuuuum 😂

wildernesssw · 20/01/2024 09:39

I remember many years ago reading an article about how people have rebuilt their lives after a horrendous event. One was a man who had been on the Marchioness (Marchioness disaster - Wikipedia) and survived. He had pursuaded his girlfriend to go with him, when she wanted to go home instead. He survived, she drowned - the guilt he felt was enormous.

He said the best advice he was given was from a specialist trauma counsellor - do not think about 'getting back to normal'. Normal has changed, and you need to find a new normal, that includes what you have been through, without it taking over every aspect of your life.

Marchioness disaster - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchioness_disaster

QueenOfHertz · 20/01/2024 09:42

Who was that @wildernesssw ? I also know someone whose girlfriend died that night and he was traumatised for years.

mrsmingleton · 20/01/2024 09:42

It's Harry's cheeky Chappy style humour isn't it? 🙄

Possibly Meghan didn't want to have to compete with Lauren Sanchez in the fashion stakes.

wildernesssw · 20/01/2024 09:47

QueenOfHertz · 20/01/2024 09:42

Who was that @wildernesssw ? I also know someone whose girlfriend died that night and he was traumatised for years.

I can't remember. It was an article in a mag like Marie Claire? Cosmo? and was about 3 decades ago! But that has stuck with me

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