Omid Scobie Endgame PART 5

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A continuing civilised and enjoyable discussion of all things relating to Endgame. Please keep posts on topic - I do not want to have to invoke Ross Gellar again!

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4957618-omid-scobie-endgame-part-4?page=1

I read in, I think, Revenge, that when Meghan was offered help from Sophie and others, she repeatedly turned it down with the words 'I have Harry'. As if, with Harry by her side, what other help could she possibly need?

I don't recall there being any suggestion that Catherine should've been the one to help her - after all she had more than enough on her plate at the time of Meghan's appearance in the family with two small children (George was 4, Charlotte 2) and Louis on the way.

I think legal costs.

If he doesn’t pay by 29th, the MoS will have to apply to get it enforced

No doubt they'd enjoy that
And you're right of course; summary judgement / case settled without a trial are the same, and it was my fault for clumsy phrasing

I couldn’t agree more @JSMill

Won’t he have to pay £100k as he will have to pay for his own legal fees as well?

Thanks for this thread - find it interesting.

I keep re reading the passage regarding Lieutenant Colonel Nana Kofi Twumasi-Ankrah, how could Omid not see the implications of colorism in the sore thumb comment and the “had to turn to someone who was the queens attendant”, basically because they had no one more senior, maybe just maybe protect the privacy this man deserves. It shows his poor judgement of words and has the opposite effect of what he was probably trying to achieve.

Yes and his legal fees may even be higher.

Sophie would have been an excellent choice as an advisor. She also had a tricky start in the RF.
I don’t think she wanted to learn, she wanted to change. It’s like when you get an over enthusiastic graduate in work who has never done a days work but is an expert in all things.

"had to turn to someone who was the queens attendant”, basically because they had no one more senior

How insulting to the officer in question, and shows a complete lack of understanding of the role of equerry. The man's a Lieutenant Colonel (a higher rank than H achieved, H would have been calling him Sir when he was in the Army), not some junior skivvy!

Exactly! The arrogance of the dimwitted MM is beyond belief. I believe it's known as the Dunning-Kruger syndrome...

Anyone who smugly says "I have Harry..." when graciously offered the assistance of a senior member of the royal household ... argh.

Apparently that’s a summary cost, the actual costs will be higher. Plus his own fees.

Wouldn't it be delicious if the Dutch publisher and the translators sued OS for defamation when he said they had made the error when it was clearly OS himself? Although because he has now admitted it (I think to avoid said defamation case) sadly not.

Yes. Harry made DM spend money arguing that yes, they should be allowed to defend themselves against his claim against them.

Remember: Harry is suing the DM for libel. DM are defending themselves by saying they didn’t libel him because what they said was actually the truth (in fact, what they said was that they were the only ones telling the truth and actually Harry was lying). What Harry then tried to do is say DM’s defence (that they were telling the truth) was so egregious, so flagrantly unlikely to work, so preposterously and outrageously wrong that the court shouldn’t even hear it. DM spent £50k saying, basically, wtf. THIS argument of Harry’s is what was just thrown out, with the added gratuitous kicker from the judge advising Harry he’s going to lose at the actual trial. So, why should the DM have to pay money? Of course Harry should pay their costs.

The question is whether DM is going to pursue getting those costs. I wouldn’t. It’s not like Harry isn’t good for the money, and DM will want to keep in Charles’s good books and enforcing abroad ain’t cheap etc etc etc. It’ll just sit there, probably. A nice reminder the DM can give Harry for their next round of legal battles. Because we know there will be many next rounds.

@Raincloudsonasunnyday

Your post earlier was superb. I know you’ve been told that already by others but it is well deserved. 🌱

Very informative

Your last one was grand too 🌱

Been lurking on all these threads and just wanted to say thanks for all the interesting and informative posts.

On the subject of Meghan- I caught the clip of her being interviewed on the red carpet for the Variety Awards. She was talking about being excited about upcoming projects and then said something like "My husband is excited too."

It was really weird. Nobody had mentioned Harry at all, and it was an event to promote women so it jarred a bit. Seemed like she has lost her identity outside of them as a pair. Or maybe she was just reminding everyone she is royal! It just seemed odd. A bit like when women post their husbands opinions on Mumsnet threads.

Just me being an armchair psychologist but they seem too dependent… when they can’t cling on physically they have to try and evoke the other’s presence through words lol

He will pay, the last thing they need is rhe publicity that he won’t. It will be paid and paid very quickly. The news group doesn’t need the money, they’d love it if harry refused to pay.but harry really doesn’t need the negative publicity of shirking it. He will pay and fast.

These court cases are proving a double edged sword aren't they?

M won re: the letters but was left with egg in her face re: having to admit she'd "forgotten" asking aides to pass information to Scobie aka lied.

Now H has also been told his pants are on fire by a judge re: his action.

Not a great look for either of them.

I just read on X that there has to be an assessment of costs and that this £50k is just on account until that’s done. Potentially it could be much more but I am not sure how accurate that is.

Harry’s overall costs of his ill advised summary judgment application against the Mail on Sunday will be much more than 100k. Costs awarded by the court are “taxed”. MoS won’t have recovered everything they spent defending the application. £50k is maybe 70-80% of what they actually had to spend. Harry’s own costs will be at least £80 - 100k I reckon, before having to pay MoS’s costs on top. That’s all an expensive bit of posturing.

There’s a very good reason why he should pay up (absent an agreed settlement): the MoS can go after him for non payment, and that sort of thing may be incompatible with his ongoing US visa requirements, which are already the subject of scrutiny and legal action, thanks to the idiot’s drug taking confessions.

Edited to add: for example Jamie L-P accompanied the Middleton family to William’s passing out parade

Going back to a comment way upthread, but clearly being a long-term girlfriend before getting engaged to William was an huge help to Kate. There are photos of her cheerfully chatting to Jamie P-L at polo matches as far back as 2006. And here he is helping her out at her first public appearance after the engagement announcement.

Just to be clear, the £50k was only for this one application. The action is still continuing to trial unless the matter settles. Costs of taking this up to trial will be in excess of £500k.

Oh Dear…