Omid Scobie Endgame PART 5

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A continuing civilised and enjoyable discussion of all things relating to Endgame. Please keep posts on topic - I do not want to have to invoke Ross Gellar again!

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4957618-omid-scobie-endgame-part-4?page=1

It was - at best- crass - IMO.

It was an insult, IMO. Hi-jacking something that was private and personal to the Queen, while trashing everything she had stood for throughout her life.

I agree. It's appalling and presumptuous. Can you imagine the eye-rolling between Catherine, Sophie and a few others? Anne.

That's the point, isn't it? It's a pet name, used by the late Queen's father, husband and sister. Bearing in mind how H&M behaved, it's extraordinary.

It’s a bit on the nose. If they have another daughter, perhaps something more subtle like Mummymetthequeendontchaknow Harryisdianasfavouriteson Williamdroolz Netflix Mountbatten-Windsor.

It just reinforces how little they really know.

My husband's dgm was a extraordinary lady and the whole family called her by her very unique nickname. We would have loved to have named dd after her but her real name wasn't actually very nice and I wouldn't have saddled a child with it! The idea of using her nickname instead would have been weird. A nickname like that is specific to that person. Lillibet was unique to the Queen. It's not like Betty or Liz.

Bit late to this but Fergie Sarah Duchess of York always and still does refer to HMTQ as “she” and that annoys me.

I agree it’s mildly annoying but she really did know her pretty well for decades and decades - and she does frequently at least in written SM refer to her correctly as Her Majesty.

Not that she can’t be annoying anyway, mind!

If there are any fans of The Behaviour Panel here, they have analysed OS's This Morning interview on their YT channel.

I do wonder, in light of Harry’s behaviour since he met Megan, on the real reason he had to leave the army.

he left and did some swap with the Australian army and was supposed to learn domestic stuff, support injured vets. But he just basically finished up and was supposed to be a full time working royal, but clearly wasn’t up for that.

i suspect there was a reason he had to come out. That It wasn’t his choice to do so. Behaviour, maybe drink, drugs, bad performance on the job, a danger to his colleagues or on thr field. I do think there was something they covered up there and they pulled him.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1460923/Prince-Harry-news-Royal-Family-leaving-army-role-difficulty-latest-vn

Also it was only a year after leaving rhe army he met Megan. Potentially he was already resentful and unhappy with his family at having to leave the army , he absolutely wasn’t settled with a purpose and then along came Megan, and within a year they were engaged and less than two years since their first date, fhey were married.

its also clear there was major issues before the wedding, they didn’t want to settle to royal life, were trade marking the Sussex royal brand to cash in, already spoken to Oprah about an interview.

it was all very very fast and happened at a time in Harry’s life where he was unsettled, rudderless, and likely resentful and unhappy.

I agree. It is totally crass. And a ridiculous name to saddle a child with. It was a family pet name for the Queen. But they had to grab it and make it theirs.

I had a look. I do agree with what one of them said about the cognitive dissonance/inauthenticity.
Scobie sitting there in a fake lounge room surrounded by fake Christmas tree springs and looking very much like a waxwork dummy: it is impossible to take him seriously and everything he says feels evasive and inauthentic.

There's a parallel with Meghan, who often seems to talk about how "authentic" she is, but comes across as the opposite. It's jarring.

I just watched a bit of this video, which appeared on YouTube next to the body language one. It's quite interesting to see an overview of the early part of their relationship and how things went wrong with the media, the public, and the other royals.

It mentions some of the text message exchanges and conversations between H&M and W&K which were reported in Spare (I haven't read it). Reading these, it's little wonder they fell out.

Kate sent a text to Meghan about the issue with Charlotte's dress and in response, Meghan imperiously tells Kate to take Charlotte to KP to have the dress adjusted "just like the other mothers."

She seems determined to put Kate and William in their place (she later tells William to "take his finger out of her face" when he points at her).

This is a recurrent motif. Either you believe in the hierarchy, in which case you behave respectfully to those who are above you in it - or you don't believe in it, in which case you don't present yourself using a title and you don't choose titles for your children.

It seems they want everyone to treat them as 'better' while treating their own 'betters' with contempt.

There's no particular Royal reason why he needed to leave - after all Andrew (the "spare" of the previous generation) did 22 years.

He had however come up against the point where he needed to pass Junior Division Staff College course in order to get substantive promotion. And that's not something that can be fudged (as it includes group/syndicate work, not just individual assessment).

That’s interesting, yes he couldn’t have gone further. Andrew though did 22 years as you said and he is thick as, my husband served with him. He specialised in doing fuck all. Genuinely.

Harry did seem to love it, and be upset about coming out, so seems to me he was pulled. That they couldn’t continue to let him do what he was doing and he didn’t want the alternatives, as he was completely directionless after he left, did some time in Australia, some army work domestically, then rudderless. And then a few months later, along popped Megan.

I see the fail is headlining, that Megan is inundated with offers from Hollywood and is really popular. So they are considering moving to la due to this phenomomen.

Odd that she’s doing absolutely no work if that’s the case. Just strikes me as another press leak supposed to big her up. A bit like Dior etc.

everh now and again we see this shit. Megan will be a brand ambassador, she will make millions, Megan will represent Dior, Megan this and Megan that, they just can’t seem to stop putting shite out there.

I guess it was to counteract the rumour her agency is going to drop her, so she’s come back with oh no, I’m huge, the agency cant cope with all the offers, we may even move to la. It’s just so ludicrous.

Are they going to downsize when they move to LA? How convenient.

I see the fail is headlining, that Megan is inundated with offers from Hollywood and is really popular. So they are considering moving to la due to this phenomomen.

I'm sure Oprah, Ariana Grande and co will be interested to learn that it's impossible to live in Montecito and be successful.

Maybe they could do an LA house-hunting episode with Selling Sunset - I would 100% watch that!

And the clooneys..Orlando bloom etc 😂

I don't see why 'they' wouldn't have wanted him to continue in the army. It's the tradition for the 'spare' to do just that, as Andrew and others have done. What reason would 'they' have for 'pulling' him from what, had he passed the exams, would likely have been a desk job? Don't you think that had he indeed been 'pulled' against his will, he'd have made a big thing of it in 'Spare'? He never misses an opportunity to tell the world how hard done by he is by 'them'.

An interesting video from which I have two key takeaways: 1. Michelle Obama is pure class and 2. I had completely forgotten that they dropped their intention of half in half out the day before Katherine’s birthday. At the time I had thought it unfortunate timing, with hindsight it looks deliberate and deeply unpleasant.

Hasn't it pretty much been confirmed he failed this course, so couldn't progress further? He could have stayed in the Army, but he couldn't get promoted and in effect would have needed to be progressively shunted sideways in a series of desk type jobs (he couldn't be deployed).

I can see why he didn't want to remain in the Army if that's all he had to look forward to, so he was "forced" out in a way.

I'm happy to be corrected if I've gotten that wrong.