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Vespanest · 08/12/2023 17:09

Below is curtesy of Google translate and Twitter some of the slight differences in the book from Rick Evers.

“In the new version, Scobie is no longer almost hit by Prince William, but almost ran into one himself. 'Maybe on purpose' became 'a bit surprised'. William's 'cold' look has now become a 'neutral' one.”

“Prince William no longer has the image of 'lazy Wills', but 'his work-shy image'. Meghan no longer had 'mental problems' but simply 'tough'. Prince William's 'rumor of adultery' is still just 'the rumours'.”

BoohooWoohoo · 08/12/2023 17:14

AliceOlive · 08/12/2023 16:27

We can pretty well be sure it was Meghan or a friend.

Who else had their friends go on TV and say that Meghan has receipts ?

Serenster · 08/12/2023 17:19

That’s a fascinating insight into the changes the lawyers made to the book draft, @Vespanest !

cocolocopocos · 08/12/2023 17:24

Getthethrowonthesofa · 08/12/2023 14:42

And when she met harry he was very popular with the British public. He was seen as attractive, lovable, highly eligible. When she got with him he was a complete catch. So yes, she would have believed him. Thought he was a big deal. And he was to be fair.

but she must have seen the resentment to his brother, long before they married, he tried very hard to deliver though on his promises, as he wanted that too, to be bigger than Kate and William, and believed he could make it happen.

but back then, what only 5 or 6 years ago, harry was the handsome, loveable, cheeky chappy, the military hero, who the public looked very on fondly.

today he is seen as spiteful, vindictive, selfish, arrogant, entitled, dishonest , and let’s face it, a bit thick.

That joke about Meghan being the only girl to have kissed a prince and turned him into a frog seems so apt!

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 08/12/2023 17:27

One of my favourite YouTubers, The Vintage Read, says that Scobie names all sorts of sources - including sources close to Harry and family sources - but there is a conspicuous absence of "sources close to Meghan", which is surprising, since he said in one of his interviews that many of Meghan's friends don't want to speak to him anymore.

Regarding the Dutch translation, he's patiently lied about writing down the names of Charles and Catherine. He is still trying to blame someone else for these names going to print. I assume that someone else is his agent. Whether his agent did something wrong is a matter for the contractual relationship and factual timeline that pertains to their relationship. As far as third parties are concerned, agents act on behalf of the principal, and are deemed to be acting under the principal's instructions. The buck still stops with Scobie.

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Vespanest · 08/12/2023 17:29

Another lovely Google translated tweet from Rick Evers

Omid Scobie looks back on the past 1.5 weeks. Dutch publisher distances itself from this. “Scobie's representation in his column about the Dutch editorial process of Eindspraak is factually incorrect and we do not recognize ourselves in his explanation”

BoohooWoohoo · 08/12/2023 17:31

As far as third parties are concerned, agents act on behalf of the principal, and are deemed to be acting under the principal's instructions. The buck still stops with Scobie.

I was shocked over Rebecca Vardy’s agent’s behaviour over the Wagatha Christie case. It was smart to get a medical note to get out of testifying.

Maireas · 08/12/2023 17:38

Uh oh - Jessica Mulroney, former bff of Meghan has posted on her insta a cryptic message about those who believe lies...

cocolocopocos · 08/12/2023 17:47

What did Jessica say?

Maireas · 08/12/2023 17:49

It seemed to be a cryptic message about people who tell and believe lies. No names.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 08/12/2023 17:49

Problem is those you climb over during the assent patiently wait for your descent.

Maireas · 08/12/2023 17:50

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 08/12/2023 17:49

Problem is those you climb over during the assent patiently wait for your descent.

Indeed. What's the expression about being nice to people when you're on the way up?

ArcaneWireless · 08/12/2023 18:10

GreatCaribouMigration · 08/12/2023 15:17

It shows he really is a liar though. In his interview on This Morning he said that he had never written a version of the book with the names in it.

Now he is saying that he had wrote an earlier, uncleared version with the names in it.

So which statement is the truth?

He only admits to stuff when he is forced to admit to it because there is overwhelming evidence against him.

Aye.

Someone has been speaking shite and got caught with a clarty mouth.

A wigginsworthy back-pedal.

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 08/12/2023 18:17

I enjoyed the wedding too. Lovely weather, lovely setting, happy cheering crowds, attractive happy couple, lots of frocks to look at.

Having the guests walking down to the chapel added a nice note of informality - and provided an oportunity to have a good look at what everyone was wearing.

Now, I wonder how often they look at their wedding album. How many of the people who were there are they still on speaking terms with?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 08/12/2023 19:00

I went looking for Endgame in the shops today. Found a single copy in Waterstones, and had a surreptitious read, to decide whether I was being too judgmental. I read the first couple of pages of the chapter about Catherine.

It starts with a quotation about stones being content and boring and water being fabulously curious and exciting (paraphrasing). I mean, who could be the stone and who could be the water?

Next is another Year 6 adjectives and prepositions exercise, this time about summer and Indian Summer and September being just like Summer and summat else about heat and Summer and September.

He then goes on to talk about Kate's stone garden at RHS Wisley in, I think, 2019. So there we go, answered that stones and water conundrum. It describes Catherine doing a TV appearance with Mary Berry where she shows Mary her garden creation (which I remember watching at the time, and thinking Catherine came across as disarmingly normal, natural and sweet-natured).

Then we have the passage about Catherine's nerves over her Blue Peter appearance. The snide summary being, it was rather surprising that she was still nervous even after 8 years on the job, but she managed it, better late than never.

That was enough reading to know that I'm probably not being judgmental, and this book is aimed at those who would wrestle the microphone from the cold, dead paws of Shep The Dog for their 15 minutes of fame.

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pilates · 08/12/2023 19:05

Harry, Meghan & Omid remind me of the boy that cried wolf. You just cannot believe anything that comes out of their mouth.

Harry used to be my favourite. I agree with pp I think he was heavily protected by the RF and unfortunately he is a deeply unpleasant person.

thebellagio · 08/12/2023 19:10

Well I can’t say I’m surprised that scobie is now having to admit that he did write the names. I suspect a fairly heavily worded legal threat from the translators secured that admission….

someone mentioned earlier about Williams surprise meeting with the lady doing the walk in honour of her daughter, it was such a lovely emotional moment, I think he genuinely surprised her. You’re right, he does seem to have that ability to connect with the public, as does Kate. They understand the task and the job that they have to do.

and as someone else mentioned, K&W’s marriage is a success because of her normal upbringing, the fact that she’s confident in her own skin, and the fact that she’s solid and secure, and has given that innate family loyalty and closeness to William. You can genuinely see they adore each other.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/12/2023 19:13

Then we have the passage about Catherine's nerves over her Blue Peter appearance. The snide summary being, it was rather surprising that she was still nervous even after 8 years on the job, but she managed it, better late than never

A lot of very experienced and well known actors get stage fright, so not the snide dig he thinks he's making

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/apr/20/theatre3

StormzyinaTCup · 08/12/2023 19:23

That was enough reading to know that I'm probably not being judgmental, and this book is aimed at those who would wrestle the microphone from the cold, dead paws of Shep The Dog for their 15 minutes of fame.

😂

EdithWeston · 08/12/2023 19:24

BoohooWoohoo · 08/12/2023 16:24

I think the public was given a very carefully curated version of Harry by the RF for years, and now we're seeing the entitled and petulant prat that he really is....

Agree.It’s been a massive shock to everyone to find out what he’s really like.

I think there's something in that

Since he stepped back, I don't think any Palace has been briefing against him. I think they simply stopped curating his public image. And he (perhaps) didn't appreciate what the did until they were no longer doing it.

Maireas · 08/12/2023 19:26

EdithWeston · 08/12/2023 19:24

I think there's something in that

Since he stepped back, I don't think any Palace has been briefing against him. I think they simply stopped curating his public image. And he (perhaps) didn't appreciate what the did until they were no longer doing it.

Oh I'm certain he didn't. He doesn't seem to appreciate anything in his life.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 08/12/2023 19:26

Absolutely @MrsDanversGlidesAgain a point I was thinking about too. I've read about many gifted and celebrated actors getting stage fight, to the point of being physically sick. Probably symptomatic in those who act from their hearts, not their heads.

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cauliflowerwaterfall · 08/12/2023 19:31

EdithWeston · 08/12/2023 19:24

I think there's something in that

Since he stepped back, I don't think any Palace has been briefing against him. I think they simply stopped curating his public image. And he (perhaps) didn't appreciate what the did until they were no longer doing it.

I don’t believe Prince Harry has ever really believed his family have been deliberately leaking stories. Of course they haven’t. They’re not stupid and it clearly wouldn’t work. I think Harry himself has been leaking stories on them for years and finally wanted to make big money doing it in public but knew how that would look.

It’s mirror propaganda, accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty.

parksandrecs · 08/12/2023 19:42

I agree, up to a point, and disagree, up to a point!

I don't think Harry believed his family were leaking stories until there were negative stories about Meghan. He clearly thinks she is amazing, and has said so, and good for him for loving his wife.

However, I think that has blinded him to her faults (we all have them) plus the culture clash she faced in the UK.

So then from his perspective any negative stories about this almost-perfect person needed a reason (other than culture clash, normal human failings, and general doesn't-click-with-me stand-offish-ness).

So then he has to look for a reason for the negative stories. Racism is one, leaking is another.

Whereas it is simply because Meghan is perfect for him (as he says) but not perfect for everyone, just because she is a human being with virtues and faults, like all of us. And it is unrealistic for any of us to expect that everyone else will like us, let alone adore us.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/12/2023 19:43

pilates · 08/12/2023 19:05

Harry, Meghan & Omid remind me of the boy that cried wolf. You just cannot believe anything that comes out of their mouth.

Harry used to be my favourite. I agree with pp I think he was heavily protected by the RF and unfortunately he is a deeply unpleasant person.

Well put pilates, though in fairness they're all protected by the image the palace spinners curate and we may not enjoy seeing what the rest are like without it

However we're not likely to since I can't see too many of the others doing a Harry

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