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cocolocopocos · 07/12/2023 10:02

There are quite a few areas surrounding all this that I think would benefit from greater clarity, which can only come from the Sussex side. But if they are disinclined to make clarifications, then that's that.

Yes, 'disinclined to make clarifications' is a neat way of putting it. 😁

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mrsmingleton · 07/12/2023 11:05

Samcro · 07/12/2023 09:46

interesting that the RF have not made any statement about the racism stuff. yet H&M are berated for not speaking out.
I suppose its hard to prove that you did or didn't say it, if the only 2 people who know, would have to say"it was me"

but it's not racism is it according to Harry? Plus it is unknown as to who, why, where, what..... it doesn't make sense to reply to unsourced suggestions.

mrsmingleton · 07/12/2023 11:12

Let's be honest here - they have had a slew of bad press and they need to try to negate that. By responding to something like a wedding invitation shows that to them things like that matter ( I am still important) but they cannot comment on the press talking about a private letter of Meghan's. It is a very mixed up way of thinking. "I want to say that I was invited to a wedding next Summer " but I won't be going but "I won't comment on the fact that my private correspondence has been splashed all over". We know why though, don't we. It's pitiful and despicable.

cocolocopocos · 07/12/2023 11:28

The person in charge of their PR must be asleep at the wheel

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Rockybooboo · 07/12/2023 12:42

Mylovelygreendress · 07/12/2023 08:57

The photo of Archie was a horrible thing done by an unpleasant person . It was swiftly dealt with and I doubt if anyone found it anything other than despicable.

The Royal family did absolutely nothing about the photo of Archie. That's the King's grandchild and he didn't call it out. Coward

Roussette · 07/12/2023 13:02

Rockybooboo · 07/12/2023 12:42

The Royal family did absolutely nothing about the photo of Archie. That's the King's grandchild and he didn't call it out. Coward

This ⬆️

They denied Kate's hair extensions but did nothing about this

Mylovelygreendress · 07/12/2023 14:25

Rockybooboo · 07/12/2023 12:42

The Royal family did absolutely nothing about the photo of Archie. That's the King's grandchild and he didn't call it out. Coward

The photo was removed pronto and I think Danny Baker ( rightly) lost his job . What else did you want ?

themessygarden · 07/12/2023 14:47

I don't know what photo of Archie is referred to above.

The story of the hair extensions has been twisted somewhat, it seems the Palace were asked if it was a scar and the Palace confirmed it was.

"We sent the photos out to some of our celebrity hairstylist friends and their immediate reactions were: "Those aren't extensions."

no extensions on the right side! O'Connor and her team speculated that it looked like Middleton could have a scar

Turns out, O'Connor was right! The Mail confirmed with Clarence House, which handles press for both the Duchess and Prince William, that the mark on her head is a scar, resulting from an operation in childhood:

“A spokesman for the Duchess at St James's Palace confirmed last night that it was the result of surgery as a young child. The scar related to a childhood operation,' they said. The palace declined to discuss what kind of operation because it was, they said, a private matter."

https://www.glamour.com/story/kate-middletons-extensions-how

Kate Middleton Doesn't Have Extensions: That Mark on Her Head Is a Scar

Even Clarence House has weighed in.

https://www.glamour.com/story/kate-middletons-extensions-how

themessygarden · 07/12/2023 14:54

Oh I know what you are referring to now, it wasn't a photo of Archie, thankfully. Horrible and disgusting racism depiction. Sick bastard.

Not reacting to that kind of bile is the modus operandi of the RF though, they also have not reacted to any of the bile spewed against them by Omid.

Roussette · 07/12/2023 15:04

Not reacting to that kind of bile is the modus operandi of the RF though

Oh yes. That much is apparent. Unless it is Kate of course.

Here. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-royal-press-office

LimeCheesecake · 07/12/2023 15:26

I do feel for the groom in this - his older sisters wedding ended up being a big drama with the royal family not being able to just suck up their own petty squabbles and sit nicely not making someone else’s big day all
about them, now his wedding is potentially getting the same treatment from the younger generation.

at least it’s far enough away that hopefully the press have used up any “drama storyline” angles by then.

MrsFinkelstein · 07/12/2023 16:38

Roussette · 07/12/2023 13:02

This ⬆️

They denied Kate's hair extensions but did nothing about this

This has already been clarified - numerous times. But once again as maybe you missed it.

The Palace clarified the scar on Catherine's head was from a childhood operation as there were rumours of cancer and brain surgery.

They did the same when a clinic used her image to promote their botox products and to insinuate she was their client.

They also did the same for Meghan when a company claimed she used their diet pills.

They spoke out numerous times in support of Meghan, more than for any other Royal in fact.

Petty squabbles aired
Petty squabbles aired
Petty squabbles aired
Petty squabbles aired
MrsFinkelstein · 07/12/2023 16:52

An opinion piece is not evidence of anything.

I read the article - it makes sweeping statements but provides very little facts to back up these statements.

It seems to suggest, in fact, that the Palace not releasing a statement is tantamount to them not supporting M in favour of C. In fact, it shows the Palace haven't said anything. The Palace have never responded to tabloid clickbait - which is basically what most of these examples were.

Edit to add: what is true is that the Palace do respond to provably false pieces published in the media. They never respond to 2nd hand gossip.

H&M seem to have at least learned this is the best response since they don't complain about the almost daily stories about them in US tabloids.

themessygarden · 07/12/2023 17:10

I don't believe they specifically come out in support of Kate, they haven't responded or supported her in a huge amount of quite dire stuff that gets levelled at her, insinuations of an eating disorder, her husband married her because she fit the profile, her mother arranged her marriage, infidelity in their marriage, discussions around Prince Louis, discussions about Prince George.

She is being accused of being a racist, she has been accused of being cold and stand offish, work shy, I haven't seen any RF statements about any of those and there are probably worse things that have been said about her. In fact, I remember you quoting a horrific nickname for her that you had read somewhere, something equally as horrific as the slur against Archie.

While I personally wouldn't necessarily agree with how the Palace handle these situations by maintaining a silence , I do think they are following a template and I don't see any discrepancy in how they have handled things between Kate and Meghan.

Roussette · 07/12/2023 17:14

In fact, I remember you quoting a horrific nickname for her that you had read somewhere, something equally as horrific as the slur against Archie

Let me remind you of this. I said I had seen a horrible moniker and I wouldn't be quoting it. I then had countless posters asking what it was. Incessantly.

I said... OK.. but it is really unpleasant. I caved. Stupid me, I said what it was.

I was then reported after posters had been asking me again and again what the awful name was!

Just to clear that up for you.

Other posters came out sticking up for me.. saying... hang on a minute .. they were asking you what it was!

Roussette · 07/12/2023 17:15

p.s. Other posters who are anti H&M have quoted it time and time again. And no, I won't be saying what it is! I've learnt my lesson!

themessygarden · 07/12/2023 18:19

I understand absolutely where you are coming from,, I had never heard that until you wrote it, I know you were not using it.

I am pointing out that there are horrific things said about her too, and that is one of the worst I have heard, but no doubt there is even worse out there if I went looking for it. My point is it disproves the idea that the RF support Kate over Meghan, it really doesn't appear to be so.

The RF maintain their silence no matter what.

Roussette · 07/12/2023 18:30

I understand absolutely where you are coming from,, I had never heard that until you wrote it, I know you were not using it

Thank you for recognising it was nothing to do with me.
I was repeatedly pressurised to say what it was. Reluctantly I did. Then the same posters who kept on asking, had a go at me !
It was bizarre and unfair, but luckily a lot of posters could see that.

I do however disagree on the RF not defending Kate. They do. The article I linked shows they do. But we can agree to disagree on that.

mrsmingleton · 07/12/2023 21:10

This article is ridiculous - many of the references are to the kind of outlandish things that nutcases claim. eg aliens came to visit H and M at home.😂

parksandrecs · 07/12/2023 23:20

MrsFinkelstein · 07/12/2023 16:38

This has already been clarified - numerous times. But once again as maybe you missed it.

The Palace clarified the scar on Catherine's head was from a childhood operation as there were rumours of cancer and brain surgery.

They did the same when a clinic used her image to promote their botox products and to insinuate she was their client.

They also did the same for Meghan when a company claimed she used their diet pills.

They spoke out numerous times in support of Meghan, more than for any other Royal in fact.

To repeat.

They have responded on behalf of both. If anything, more in support of Meghan. But in general recognise that the more you respond the more you feed the fire

Roussette · 08/12/2023 05:55

To repeat.
I don't believe that to be the case.

We won't agree so no point in going further on the subject

parksandrecs · 08/12/2023 06:31

By all means hold on to your opinion, even though the evidence suggests otherwise.

Roussette · 08/12/2023 06:47

No.
We won't agree so no point in going further on the subject

andIsaid · 09/12/2023 14:06

cocolocopocos · 06/12/2023 10:02

And as someone pointed out in the other thread, just a couple of weeks ago they were angling for an invite to Balmoral or Christmas at Sandringham - so why would a wedding next year suddenly be too awkward to contemplate?

How do you know they were angling for an invite to Balmoral?

It seems a very irrrational!

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