RAVEC - Prince Harry

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Can someone explain to me the procedure and how this works?

Quite frankly If my child had behaved & insulted as Harry has towards me, my mother, wife, other son and DIL hell would freeze over first before I’d spend one penny or waste a moment breath on him.

He reminds me of a family member who blames everyone else for his actions. It’s always someone else’s fault!

Dear me. Seriously? I could reply with a few choice words but … 😃 why bother?

Posters are becoming somewhat hyperbolic for no reason imho other than that they are choosing to be.

I happened to say retired Ghurkas. I could have said retired members of the SAS. I could have said
Marines. I also said “private security”. I was making the point that KC has any number of contacts within the forces that he could call upon.

I fail to see what that has to do with demographics or where “pseudo virtue signalling” comes in to it but by all means please report if you feel you must.

I think I’ve responded in a fairly measured way to everyone throughout the thread who has addressed impolite comments to me, but it would seem that you can’t express support for a republic on Mumsnet - or indeed defend H&M’s position - without attracting a whole heap of “outrage” which is disappointing, but there we have it.

Sleep well everyone and up the revolution 😉😃

Revolution?! You're the one that thinks a monarch should over rule an organisation like RAVEC! 😂

Maireas I have said repeatedly that I think it’s perfectly possible for him to do so . The King could find a way around this situation if he had the will.

And I think in a democracy the monarch shouldn't be above the law
So we'll just need to agree to disagree on that one!

That's what I don't get.
The belief that Harry should get special treatment.
Or that the King should circumvent procedures.

I could have done without the ‘oh dear’ and ‘dear me’ stuff. It comes across as impolite and patronising and you can envisage it accompanied with a head tilt.

That said, although we took the shilling and promised to serve, I daresay the feeling would be (at best) of reluctance to look after the people who have tried their best to denigrate those we served. They are oft described as a liability and a joke. And that is about as polite as it gets.

Clearly it is just my personal experience but I have not heard a different opinion from the other veterans I know. And those I know who are still serving feel similarly.

He may be the son of the King but he chose to step away from Royal life. It would be slightly different if he were to visit on Royal duties but that isn’t likely to be the case..

The loyalty lay with Queen and Country. Now King and Country. Not someone who did his damnedest to destroy that which we held dear.

Why should ex forces/retired personnel protect him if he is merely here to snidely snipe in another documentary for example?

No thank you.

Am I the only one who can’t stop singing ‘Don’t be fooled by the GLOCK that I’ve got, I’m still, I’m still Harry from the block’😂

The thing about armed security is that it poses a risk to the public. However highly trained, mistakes are possible, so I imagine that factors into the decision whether armed security is appropriate.

I will try ask my friend when I get a chance - he works for the MET as mental health support for those who attack/plot against the royal family. He's understandably close-lipped on the details, but procedure is interesting!

I don’t understand your last para! 🤷‍♀️

Similarly confused by this.

”Oh dear” is a common way of expressing surprise at what I considered to be over the top reactions! Interpret how you like!

It is fine. I did.

Well if it’s fine, why bother commenting?

Agree with this ^^ I understand the risk associated with armed security.

I am no expert but as I understand it, much of the effectiveness of personal protection, is dependent on planning, strategy, awareness of routes and potential weak spots etc as much as actual fire power? Not sure?

Any “private security” - ex military or not - would be at a distinct disadvantage in this country with regards to actual firepower.

“Because all there past arguments about colonialism, post colonialism, unconscious bias and institutional racism now just look like insincere point scoring. Which is what was evident to most of us anyway.”

This is definitely not evident to me. This poster does not speak for me.

Well, from my friend's perspective, it's all about analysing the likelihood and likely MO. And likely competence. (When it comes to preventative work).

Thank you to @ArcaneWireless and others on here, who have served, continue to serve or have loved ones in the forces. Most of us just take this for granted. That anyone of you would be deployed to protect a man, not because it is deemed necessary, but because he is a Royal Prince, is extraordinary.
I have absolutely no idea about security and protection, so I defer to those who do. Namely RAVEC. I'm glad they can't be bought, and don't automatically defer to Harry because of his title and status.

I happened to say retired Ghurkas. I could have said retired members of the SAS. I could have said

Perhaps you should have done then. Because at least that's part of the military where you will find personnel with training in close protection (those with current skills are likely to be working in PMCs in this role already)

Military background here, and as I posted earlier and still think, your choice of Gurkhas as an example is indeed odd because they are so very unlikely to have had any relevant training.

Yes, it’s just silly isn’t it. Harry has been overtly racist, misogynistic, disrespected the dignity and privacy of others who aren’t in a position to clap back - and was heavily embroiled in a bullying scandal .............l

Who wouldn't want to be hanging off the arm of that man?
He really is quite a dick the catch, a real Prince Charming!

Well in that case how about we settle on a couple of handy ex gamekeepers carrying cudgels?

(That was a lame attempt to be humorous btw in case, as usual, posters are unable to recognise it as such.)

The point is, it doesn’t really matter who as long as they are competent. The RF have the means and resources to put an arrangement in place if they so wish.

And it’s obvious they don’t wish to do this. Despite Jeremy Clarkson - friend of Camilla - having shared his vile diatribe about what he would like to do to Meghan in a popular tabloid newspaper. And despite Piers Morgan, another contact of Camilla’s , having worked up his viewers in to a frenzy of hate about her.

Shame on them!