Omid Scobie Endgame PART 3

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La Pom Pom Girl is doing the Double Dutch. But who is turning the skipping ropes? Part three/trois/drie of the continuing discussion of Endgame by Omid Scobie. Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4951834-omid-scobies-new-book-part-2

Even in the Zoe Williams article she says that OS is likely to have got all their info directly from H&M.

When posting I think that H&M probably like the fact that their initials are HM, his/her majesty- but I always read it as the clothing store, so even initials don't get the top job.

Yeah, I can't see her living out in the English countryside - her wellies would get VERY muddy for a start

To be fair, it doesn't look like Omid Scobie either! But then Omid Scobie doesn't look like Omid Scobie any more - he looks like a weird waxwork.

Going back to the book - it looks like the naming was in the first draft - at this point OS was happy to put names to his allegation- it is unlikely his source -( Meghan or “friend”) was unaware of this

At some point names are removed
either legal or did the source ask for their removal ?
It seems a co incidence at this point that M and H were looking for a reconciliation

They can’t row back or make a statement because they are the source

so now they have adopted the never complain never explain - at last

if her walk about pictures were genuine and not a set up there would be people videoing and shouting questions about the royal racist ( like C and W had )

They can’t row back or make a statement because they are the source

I agree, this is the only reasonable explanation for why they've said nothing. A major gripe they had about life in the RF was that they couldn't defend themselves against incorrect stories in the press, but now .... crickets!

if her walk about pictures were genuine and not a set up there would be people videoing and shouting questions about the royal racist ( like C and W had )

I suspect her fancy PR firm have told her she needs to be photographed 'out and about', giving the message that it's 'business as usual'. It will blow over, because things always do, but in the meantime they need to present the idea that they aren't hiding from the press.

She was of course reviled as the most-hated, unsuitable, ruining reputation of monarchy etc in the days when she and Edward were "half in half out" and the fake sheikh scandal.

It's taken a good couple of decades of quietly and efficiently performing duties (typically the duller ones, definitely the unsung ones) to regain their reputations.

It's a real shame that Sophie's work on VAWG and rape as a tool of war does not get much, if any, coverage.

Without meaning to sound mean, that may be why Sophie was a good choice. Because if there were conversation (which surely S would ruthlessly keep to small talk) even if spun to the maximum, would probably not make a interview or book-worthy vignette.

Because - as I said in previous post - Sophie's work for some of her most important causes rarely gets coverage. We're more likely to see coverage of her with the military (where she is popular now) than we are to read about her speeches against FMG. So I'd be mildly surprised if the wider US audience even had a clue how she fitted in, and probably wouldn't care much what she did/didn't say on a car ride.

(As an aside - an entirely speculative one - I think it's quite likely that Meghan did not realise the existing broad reach of issues the RF was already active on, and may have thought there were gaps on important themes, such as VAWG, FGM and rape as a tool of war, which were ripe to be filled. But would have been steered away from, because of existing activity, which might not make the headlines here but was gaining traction internationally)

'I had never submitted a book that had their names in it' has to be a new high in hair-splitting protestation. It rivals Bill Clinton's 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman.'

Yeah, definitely. Submitted to who?

Submitted as your first draft, or submitted as your final print-ready manuscript?

That's two very different things.

Id be pissed off if I was a member of his family

Thanks for jinxing me by swearing on my life !

Yup. It's a shame no-one pinned him down during the interviews as to whether he had ever written, worked on, or received a draft (or 'earlier version') with those names in. And if so, who was responsible for typing or writing them down?

Talk about not taking ownership ...

I can't get to read the comments on the DM because of the ad pop up. It's constant.
I click on an article, an ad pops up and every time I click on the X to remove the ad, the ad keeps coming back.
In the end I give up and leave the DM app.

W & K are coming out of this with more support than ever. The liars and grifters try to make a quick buck by making things up.

Install an ad blocker. It's saved my sanity for years.

Thank you. I will do.

In his interview with Dutch TV when the story first broke, Scobie says, "For me, I edited and wrote the English version. There's never been a version that I've produced that has names in it."

So possibly there's a version someone else has produced that has names in it. If the source material - possibly notes from a source, original draft extracts taken out of someone else's book etc.

His agent is United Talent Agency. I wonder whether any of the Sussex friendship/inner circle have the same agent.

They were also offered an "apartment" at Kensington Palace - 21 rooms, to be renovated for them. That was turned down as they wanted to be away from London and chose Frogmore

Emphasis on 'that I'VE produced'. As you say, it's getting pretty obvious that more than one hand has been involved.

Are you sure? I thought that turned out to be a rumour. Living next door to W&K would never have worked.

I read that it was Windsor Castle they wanted rooms in? Then HMQ gave them Frogmore instead

If Omid is the 'producer' of the book, does that mean there could have been 'footage' left on the cutting room floor - but somehow an uncut version got out there, unbeknownst to him?

I’d think it would be powerful for Charles as the King to continue with the recollection may vary but to sue on the grounds of national security. He’s head of state and according to Scobie can’t keep sensitive private material safe. Even if the letters didn’t exist the message is sill out there.

The timings of the renovations fit - it was in scaffolding for several months in early 2018, and it was widely reported that's where they would be going. So the works must have been planned and agreed several months before that, at which point it might have seemed a good idea.

But I don't think it was ever confirmed. Just the obvious inference at the time.

The structural work was carried out (would have been needed anyhow). Not sure who moved there - it's a very high status slice of a London palace

I thought they were offered Apartment 1 in KP (which is big, but not as grand as 1A, W&K's apartment), but they wanted to get away from W&K so they went to Windsor instead. And I thought they asked the Queen if they could move their office to Windsor Castle and she said No, so they ended up moving it to Buckingham Palace (but I might be wrong).

Apartment 1 is described as 21 rooms
Apartment 1A as over 20 rooms

Who knows how "grand" it would be post-renovation

I thought (at the time) the idea was for them to have very similar London accommodation.

I imagine neither couple would have wanted to live so close to the other at Kensington Palace. Awkward