2 racist royals?

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So who are the 2 royals who commented on Archie's skin now that Piers Morgan has named them on live tv

I don’t understand the concern about defamation - how could Harry’s book have been published if it is so difficult to say anything offensive about the Royal family?

How does most tabloid reporting on the royal family exist?

It sounds as though it’s all a publicity stunt to create drama around a reveal, because he has run out of subject matter.

I've a mixed race grandchild, we all spoke about what colour he'd be! Nothing racist at all, just a curiosity. Peeps are far too sensitive these days.

It's just my husband has blond hair and ginger beard, which looks weird. All his relatives make jokes about it and praise me for kids not being ginger (I have dark skin and black hair).

I see your preoccupation with Harry and no attention to racism in the RF; I see an attempt to minimise racism at Highgrove.

I must say, I am baffled when people defend Harry, given what he has said and done.

I disagree that you can infer racism on the part of Charles (you named him, not Highgrove) from a woman going to tribunal over a remark not made by him several years earlier, a tribunal which she lost. I think it's wrong to do that. Charles may well be racist. If you have evidence of that, by all means share it, but you look a bit desperate coming out with the tribunal story, and run the risk of people thinking, if that's all there is, there's nothing actually there.

I am also a bit bemused that with all the outright racism directed at Meghan on this thread, you have chosen to make a remark like that to me, merely for pointing out the facts. I have indeed drawn attention to racism in the royal family, both on the part of Harry, and also the experience that Meghan described on Oprah.

Wow you’re rude! How ignorant!

My niece and nephew are mixed race. Niece looks like bil, whilst nephew looks like a short Viking! It was actually dsis’s mil and sils who were the racist ones, commenting disparagingly about nephew’s pallidness, and even whispering to bil that he might not be his son .

I can’t imagine making any comment at all about anyone - born or not yet born. I also can’t imagine the royals named being the racist ones. That’s the trouble when you throw an accusation - it can’t be unsaid even if it’s an utter lie.

Interesting how some people are so keen to believe Omid Scobie on this subject, whilst yesterday the book was just “tittle tattle” when they thought it might be damaging to H&M.

*All I can say is that if I was running a globally recognised “firm” I’d make damn sure that a disgruntled partner was dealt with in house so they wouldn’t defect and brief against the firm.

It’s just piss poor management.*

The firm may well have tried to do this but when the Sussexes price to not brief against them was to be half in / half out and monetise the monarchy they had no option but to cut them loose.

What is happening now to the royals was probably the least worst option. The alternative was for the public to see H and M making money off their royal connection and the royals 'allowing' it and the public then questioning why there is a monarchy if royals are just celebrities.

Being a redhead seems to be the last characteristic that you can denigrate without fear of being called out.

Whatever the size, colour, race, age, disability, sexuality of someone we are all supposed to not discriminate but 'gingers' are still fair game for some unknown reason.

@Hughs The women in the court case said clearly that Charles staff made lots of black jokes. She talked about a general culture as well as a terribly racist example of what Fawcett said.

@Tulipsroses you are being at least incredibly ignorant, and I find your comments very offensive. And anyone making jokes or praising you for not having ginger kids is unacceptable.

@Choux
That the point my husband always makes. Although he is partially ginger he thinks that there are not enough gingers on tv. Apart from Santander advert no other appearance of gingers)))

Omid is using unconscious bias and phrases like conversations about skin colour rather than racism.

Omid says that King Charles wrote to Meghan about the issue and mentions Kate in this letter. No suggestion that Kate wrote any letters to Meghan.

It says that they had been a part of a conversation about skin colour. That could also mean that they were present in a group and smiling while the people next to them were discussing it. Not that they themselves had said it. Otherwise it would have said "the king said".

That interview on This Morning wasn't very robust - they didn't push him to say who his sources were. And when Scobie says he never submitted a version of the book which named anyone, he wasn't pressed on how that version made it into print - translators don't make up paragraphs, they literally say what is there!
He comes across well in interviews, is articulate, appears sincere but presentation doesn't prove truthfulness.

I think the time has come for everyone to shit or get off the pot. Harry, Megan and Omid Scobie need to be completely upfront and say what happened and when and then the RF should get their right of reply. All this allusion and spin is going none of them any good!

Except... the comment on the baby's skin was " ...and what THAT woukd mean.." So, it's not just the usual commenting on what the baby would look like (which I don't actually get because I didn't wonder about thos about my child who is mixed race - but I also get we all react differently) among loving family members. It was wondering about the 'consequences' so to speak, of a child looking distinctly black or different from the rest of the royal family.

The Dutch translators have said they translated what was there - no making up bits (as if).

Hit the nail on the head.

@Choux I agree with in that thinking you could do royal duties when suiting you and then making your own money ( which would given their skills be presumably off the back of that ) would have been so much worse. It's bad enough now they are using their titles etc but I think this is the least worst option. I think the late Queen was right - with you're in or you're out. & as others have said eg Sophie learned that to her cost .

Apparently you can, because you just did. But why the fuck did you say something so rude, nasty and ignorant?

It’s got him slightly more publicity for the book.

I think he is taking his cues from the newsreader/ Sun story, which had an extra week in the papers because of the speculation before the name was inevitably revealed.

This happened when Harry was much younger than he is now. And it is William who encouraged Harry to wear the uniform. But of course, that was not reported. Obviously, both Harry and William wouldn't think it would be a good idea to dress up as a nazi now. So your point is redundant.

Meghan was not involved in any conversation where the colour of the baby's skin was mentioned.

It was her choice to use the word "concerns" - we have no idea of the tone of that converstaion.

She made the choice to use that word during an interview in which she made over a dozen statements which are verifiably untrue.

She was called out for telling lies in court.

Are you sure you're not in need of help? You sound kre- kre 🥶

Where is your proof that William encouraged him?

And please don't say you're basing this on one of Shola Mos Shitface's tweets.