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drowninginjelly · 2023-11-29T22:03:07+00:00

So who are the 2 royals who commented on Archie's skin now that Piers Morgan has named them on live tv

Bales23 · 30/11/2023 12:12

CurlewKate · 30/11/2023 06:58

@HowAmYa "M and H fucked off to America because M is too sensitive to be part of British culture."
Ah yes. British culture. "Lighten up, love. It's only banter. Can't you take a joke?"

Sad example of an adult failing to coherently make a point without using profanity.

Bales23 · 30/11/2023 12:15

8misskitty8 · 30/11/2023 07:24

They’ll not be getting the Christmas invite they have been angling for now !

Oh yes, they stepped down, moved country BECAUSE they wanted a Xmas invite. C'mon, even you can reason better than this?

Myfabby · 30/11/2023 12:15

Freakinfraser · 30/11/2023 12:08

I actually agree with you. I would be very surprised indeed if Charles when harry started dating Megan asked what colour any babies skin would be and harry said it was at the start of the relationship it was said.

And honestly Kate is a bit Stepford wife , let’s be honest, I’d be very surprised if she was ever close enough to Megan that when she was pregnant with Archie to even voice that question.

i don’t get the impression they were ever close enough for that. Hence why it’s all so vague about Kate. As said earlier, I think she just got dragged in to try and tarnish her.

there does seem to be a serious dislike of Kate though from harry and Megan and a desire to tarnish her. Which is odd as she did obviously get on well with harry prior. But it is dislike of both of them. Is Kate simply collateral damage?

it’s easy to assume it’s jealousy on Megan’s and Harry’s part. Kate’s married the top brother, has a loving family, is now popular with the British public, is going to be queen, her son will be king, harry did used to like her, a lot, and she seldom puts a foot wrong publicly, and Megan and harry were going to have to play second fiddle to her in the royal stakes. Megan will always have married the spare , never to be queen, and her kids would ne also less senior. And harry will always be the spare, and is clearly deeply pathologically jealous of his brother.

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Wow, how do you manage your day job as your nose is stuck up so far up Waity's bony ass!

The sycophancy is so off the charts nauseating

Bales23 · 30/11/2023 12:16

CharityShopChic · 30/11/2023 07:50

Has any pregnant women NOT had this sort of conversation with relatives?

It's one of the most common things to speculate other than if it's going to be a boy or girl. Will he/she look like Daddy? Wonder if he/she will have granny's wonky nose? Wonder if she/he will have red hair, curly hair, big feet, long fingers?

There is clearly no love lost between Harry/Meghan and Kate/William and that's a shame as for a while, Harry, William and Kate were a strong three doing charity work and shared events. There is no coming back from all this now, if I were Kate I couldn't even bear to be in the same room as that pair.

I was pregnant AND didn't have this conversation. Not everyone thinks the same - clearly.

Verv · 30/11/2023 12:16

I suspect the lovely one-trick Meagain is having little Omid rekindle the flames for her.
Must be quiet in Hollywood.

Myfabby · 30/11/2023 12:18

Sayitaintso33 · 30/11/2023 11:23

The brief was explicit: 'appoint a black or asian candidate'. There was nothing to misunderstand.

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right. we believe you.

delulu

MumoftwoGirls11 · 30/11/2023 12:23

Karmakamelion · 29/11/2023 22:48

Trust me if a woman of colour perceives something as racist it generally is. I find it hilarious (!) when a white person tries to tell me what is and isn't racist.
Racists don't all walk around with white pointy hats and burning crosses you know

+1 to this. The very same sentence with a different intonation can have very different emotions behind it. Unless you have faced the racism it's hard to understand. I'm inclined to believe that the intonation behind what was said by Kate was what led Meghan to feel that it was racist. Whilst she is young, Kate has led a privileged and sheltered life, so I am more inclined to believe that she is indeed racist and perhaps refuses to accept that she is. Needs education, as Harry said.

Most of the people piling on the hate for Meghan cannot understand what she has experienced even a bit. I have a lot of respect for her, how she's refused to shrink when stepped on by a stuffy, racist establishment, with an adversary as strong as the Daily Mail and the other tabloids. I watched the same things (e.g. touching baby bump) being painted as positive when Kate did it and being painted as negative when Meghan did it. The silence and inaction from the Royal Family when they were vilifying Meghan was deafening.

A lot of the lies the tabloids have spun have now become widely-known "truths" it's so sad.

Ilovecleaning · 30/11/2023 12:24

Myfabby · 30/11/2023 12:18

right. we believe you.

delulu

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interview panels DO get these briefs!

Outnumbered1010 · 30/11/2023 12:28

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howrudeforme · 30/11/2023 12:30

The royals are so very far removed from British norms I can imagine them lots of thing in private not understanding how things can be taken badly. We will probably never know the context in which it was said.

im mixed and mum (Asian) and dad (white) and all their family were curious to see how I turned out. Same when I married a person from yet a different part of the world, family pondered what ds would look like. Once born becomes very uninteresting.

Blueroses99 · 30/11/2023 12:30

MumoftwoGirls11 · 30/11/2023 12:23

+1 to this. The very same sentence with a different intonation can have very different emotions behind it. Unless you have faced the racism it's hard to understand. I'm inclined to believe that the intonation behind what was said by Kate was what led Meghan to feel that it was racist. Whilst she is young, Kate has led a privileged and sheltered life, so I am more inclined to believe that she is indeed racist and perhaps refuses to accept that she is. Needs education, as Harry said.

Most of the people piling on the hate for Meghan cannot understand what she has experienced even a bit. I have a lot of respect for her, how she's refused to shrink when stepped on by a stuffy, racist establishment, with an adversary as strong as the Daily Mail and the other tabloids. I watched the same things (e.g. touching baby bump) being painted as positive when Kate did it and being painted as negative when Meghan did it. The silence and inaction from the Royal Family when they were vilifying Meghan was deafening.

A lot of the lies the tabloids have spun have now become widely-known "truths" it's so sad.

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Meghan said she wasn’t there when the conversation happened so it’s a second hand account from Harry. I find it difficult to believe that it’s possible to pick up on intonation or emotion accurately.

We have no idea that Kate said anything to Meghan yet you state it as fact.

OhNoOhNo · 30/11/2023 12:32

Myfabby · 30/11/2023 12:18

right. we believe you.

delulu

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Love that ‘delulu’ 🤣

I’m a BAME woman with a corporate career, I have to be twice as smart, twice as hardworking, twice as available as my white colleagues to succeed.

No one hands you a job on a platter.

ManchesterLu · 30/11/2023 12:33

albapunk · 29/11/2023 22:13

I wish we had context for the actual discussion that happened.

My cousin has mixed race children. It was a running thing in the family (on all sides) as to what the children would look like when they were born and who's skin tone and features they would inherit. They were first grandkids for the dads family, who are not Caucasian. There was absolutely nothing racist about these chats or comments.

I agree with this. I've had similar discussions with friends about what their baby might look like, whose skin tone it might have. It's not racist, it's just interesting when two races have a baby to see which race the baby looks most like.

Sayitaintso33 · 30/11/2023 12:34

Myfabby · 30/11/2023 12:18

right. we believe you.

delulu

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It was the late 1990s, we were a small, all white company and we needed to diversify for the good of our public image and to attract public funding which was beginning to react against predominantly white, male, private educated firms. Some of the panel were cynical, others believed in affirmative action/positive discrimination. It wasn't a bad time to be the only female manager either.
You could argue that in fact we appointed the best candidate, because only a non-white employee could bring us what we needed.
As I said in an earlier post it could be tokenism or you might see it as part of the long, painful journey towards equality. And no I am not saying we have completed that journey. There is still a very long way to go.

boscabosco · 30/11/2023 12:34

OnWhatGrounds · 29/11/2023 22:30

Imagine in reality, Meghan being jealous of Kate. With what motive and why? Doesn't add up and just another ploy to demonize and divide. They are both gorgeous women with a lot of power and influence.

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Because Megan Markle is so insecure. Jealousy does not have a motive, it just is and it is the reason behind all the nasty behaviour towards Kate.

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Lockupyourbiscuits · 30/11/2023 12:38

What is true is Kate was not born into Royalty and is known to be a bit shy
She was bullied as a child and had to move schools and now she is being bullied on an industrial scale with no evidence of wrongdoing
Just because she isn’t complaining it doesn’t mean this isn’t affecting her and her children deeply

This all should stop
The family need to sort it out privately
Meghan has been on the end of treatment too
Meghan and Harry will never resolve anything if everything is shared publicly
There are hurt feelings all around

I can’t think any of them are truly happy with this

MumoftwoGirls11 · 30/11/2023 12:38

Blueroses99 · 30/11/2023 12:30

Meghan said she wasn’t there when the conversation happened so it’s a second hand account from Harry. I find it difficult to believe that it’s possible to pick up on intonation or emotion accurately.

We have no idea that Kate said anything to Meghan yet you state it as fact.

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I never said Kate said anything to Meghan. Read again.

You might find it difficult to pick up racism from intonation, but many, many others don't.

Ramalangadingdong · 30/11/2023 12:43

CwmYoy · 30/11/2023 11:59

God help us all when the divorce comes.

Yes you lot will be mortified for Kate - sorry - Catherine of Arrogant.

Blueroses99 · 30/11/2023 12:45

MumoftwoGirls11 · 30/11/2023 12:38

I never said Kate said anything to Meghan. Read again.

You might find it difficult to pick up racism from intonation, but many, many others don't.

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My point was that the information was second hand as Meghan said she wasn’t there when it was said. She didn’t hear the intonation. How reliable can that be?

I can pick up on racism from intonation just fine, but I would never claim to be sure if it was based on someone relaying it back to me.

mantyzer · 30/11/2023 12:46

If Meghan Markle is acceptable, then Kate Middleton is?

Hughs · 30/11/2023 12:46

CurlewKate · 30/11/2023 11:56

@Lockupyourbiscuits "please can you also share your views on Harry’s racial slurs
Do you feel they were racist?

Yes of course they were. He had no experience other than the royal family, public school and the army. None of them known for their progressive ethos. He learned. Which is more than can be said for many other people.

Omg yes, poor Harry who had no idea it was racist to call someone the p word, how could he possibly know, he was only in his twenties? It wasn't Harry's fault. And how could he know it was offensive to dress up as a Nazi for fun? It wasn't his fault, they made him do it.

Not sure how to get around him dismissing his wife's account of racism as unconscious bias, or sticking up for Lady Hussey because "she didn't mean it". Not sure whose fault that it is, but definitely not Harry's.

ScremeEggs · 30/11/2023 12:47

Because Megan Markle is so insecure. Jealousy does not have a motive, it just is and it is the reason behind all the nasty behaviour towards Kate.

😂
You don't know her. You only know the picture painted in your head by the narrative and tone the press has spun.
Honestly, some of these posts are utterly batshit.

Sparthan · 30/11/2023 12:51

Choux · 29/11/2023 22:36

Imagine in reality, Meghan being jealous of Kate. With what motive and why? Doesn't add up and just another ploy to demonize and divide. They are both gorgeous women with a lot of power and influence.

But the thing with hereditary monarchy is that one son's star ascends and the wife becomes Princess of Wales and then Queen. And the second son's star slowly fades in brightness and the wife remains a Duchess and is eventually eclipsed by the first son's children as they become the next heir and spares.

But am sure Meghan isn't bothered by that because as she said 'service is universal'.

This. It must have driven Meg insane to have to curtsey to Kate and constantly play second fiddle. And when Kate’s son becomes King and her grandchild too… while Meg’s son is only a Prince and her grandchild will have no title at all… she will have been seething.

They’ve done it now though. Accused the King of England of racism! They are going to get well and truly squashed.

CurlewKate · 30/11/2023 12:51

@Hughs not at all excusing Harry. But he at least showed some growth.