2 racist royals?

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So who are the 2 royals who commented on Archie's skin now that Piers Morgan has named them on live tv

How is Meghan a bad dresser? Which clothes didn't fit?

It was the way MM came out with it on their fortune earning Oprah interview which devalues the accusation for me. It came across as an oh my god you won't believe what they said, two women of colour making their money out of the media.
Why did they not use their position of power to there and then state the accusations, state what was said and by who. Instead it's a muddy slur not really a stand against racism.
I felt Oprah was out of order by leaving it in the air like that.
I'm not a fan of KC but he has made a massive effort to embrace multiculturalism for decades
Whatever he has said The Sussexes should have addressed it in a correct manor where their grievance could be heard and listened to not oh my god whisperings.

I was simply countering the allegation that no white person had ever not been given a job because of the colour of their skin.

But think about the nonsense you have just written. In your appointment system, you don't attempt to discover the best candidate, you simply appoint the minority candidate from a pool of qualified people.

I'm not against that but don't try and pretend it does not lead to weaker minority candidates sometimes being appointed.

King Charles works really hard for the Princes Trust helping minorities.
He seems really decent and apologetic about the racist royal family history- such as colonialism.

Kate- probably racist I suspect.

Fair play to Piers Morgan for revealing the names. My opinion of team Sussex and the RF have not changed because of the revelation.

@NonPlayerCharacter
"How is Meghan a bad dresser? Which clothes didn't fit?"
Personally, I think her best dress was the blue thing she wore at some award (cant remember what she was being awarded for).
Her wedding dress did not fit, and she ought to have had someone style her hair for the day, as it was falling about.
She wears too many off the shoulder dresses when it is inappropriate (in some circles, off the shoulder should not be worn prior to 5.00 pm, as it is considered cocktail dress). Talking to the families of dead children with an off the shoulder suit, was inappropriate, so to me (apart from things often being creased), her dress is often not appropriate for the occassion.
I think the worse dress was the awful red thing she wore to some military thing.

She certainly could look fabulous, but usually she doesn't, I'm afraid.

@Sayitaintso33 "As far back as the 90s I sat on interview panels where we were instructed to appoint a black candidate. Whether or not it was tokenism, there were superior white candidates who missed out."

The kindest response to this is to say you misunderstood the brief. Also. Nobody banned Christmas.

I think we are at the stage it unfortunately needs clearing up now

Actually we've been at that point for a long time now, but the accusers ain't saying what the content of the conversation was and nobody else knows

Seems a bit silly really; since the identities of the alleged racists have now been revealed, why not simply tell us what they claim was said - but perhaps it's more fun to watch the speculation swirl?

MM was looking for racism where none existed.

She ought to look at her own behaviour, not the colour of her skin, if she wants to understand why people have eventually lowered their opinion of her.

I predict the marriage won't last and eventually H will come home with his tail between his legs.

Perhaps all the comments can be aired
I do find it strange that without any context two people are being casually labelled as Royal Racists

So Harry , who we know called people racial insults , told a black man he didn’t sound black
said about his South African girlfriend -don’t worry she’s not black ( see Guardian for exact wording- I actually think this is the worst ) - he’s just tickety boo 👍👍

Are we in some sort of parallel universe because this doesn't make any sense to me

If Omid wanted to highlight racism in the Royal Family he should have started with Harry’s history of racist outbursts - which incidentally he has never properly apologised for - because he actually thinks marrying Meghan has absolved him of any responsibility- how is that right !!

In your opinion.

I love some of her outfits. Not keen on a few, but that applies to anyone in the public eye.

Are people really that interested in what colour their friends kids will be? I can't say I've ever wondered or asked or excitedly discussed! Same for : hair , noses, eyes - am I missing something? I get parents doing it

Yes, and no. Bit like the interest in weight and length - we used to run a book at one workplace I was at. People often still announce weight and length because others are interested. It’s interesting to wonder about the unknown, nothing sinister.

We have friends with one being a pale, white red-head and the other African American (from USA). With their firstborn they would both go on endlessly wondering what they would look like in regards to skin tone, hair colour and texture, eye colour and ask ‘what do you think’? Not because they considered any aspect good or bad, just a curiosity on what genes would throw out, and the expectation was that their friends were just as interested, not that we were a bunch of racists.

I couldn't give a flying fuck what she wears.

It's what comes out of her mouth (usually to her 'supporters') that is the real issue.

This couple's behaviour stinks.

@CocoChanellee "She ought to look at her own behaviour, not the colour of her skin, if she wants to understand why people have eventually lowered their opinion of her."

Right. What did she actually do wrong?

It’s Harry and Harold. His comments to Pakistanis, his comment about his white South African gf, his comment about Stephen K Amos, his comment about his wife’s strong genes, etc

Yes - In my opinion.

Which other opinion could I give?

I agree with a poster above that she wore a blue dress on time that looked fabulous - at best her other outfits have been iffy, (IMO) and some of them downright awful (that gold thing she wore in the "High speed car chase" for instance . . .)

I'm honestly amazed that people are so quick to jump conclusions on either side tbh. Without knowing what was actually said and in what context, I wouldn't want to leap to the conclusion that Charles or Kate made racist comments. But equally, without knowing what was actually said and in what context, I wouldn't want to assume that Meghan has simply imagined stuff that isn't there.

Unless we were actually present for those conversations, we don't actually know. And yes, we might all have some opinions on what is or isn't likely, based on our wider impressions of the people involved, but they are just opinions.

I have mixed race children ( me being the black person) and honestly it is very irritating when the skin colour/hair texture surfaces. My DH’s brother’s have had children with white women and the question as to their hair colour, eyes etc never seems to surface to that degree of dissection. As if my unborn child is a lab experiment. It really gets to me and i guess unless aimed at you you’d think it trivial but if you are questioned almost 80% of the time ( even by people who barely know you) it takes the biscuit.

I've not rtft as it's gotten so long...!

Context is what is needed, IF it actually happened at all.
IF it happened, MM or PH must have been involved or in the room at the very least. Otherwise they wouldn't know about this if it had been a private conversation.

A chat about, "Oh imagine the baby, with dark skin and red hair!" is very very different from the implication she has made.

And I cannot believe that these things had not already been discussed before they were even engaged - there would have been no need or interest to discuss it after she was already pregnant.

Probably racist I suspect

It is incredibly damaging to say things like this with nothing to back it up, mud sticks. What has Kate said or done herself that makes you think this?

The brief was explicit: 'appoint a black or asian candidate'. There was nothing to misunderstand.

Have you missed it ?

Gave interviews where the truth was less than the truth.
Said she wasn't given support by the Palace when clearly she was (but she refused some of it.)
Maligned the other Royals who she knows won't go tit for tat to put their side.
Allowed Omid S to write a book full of venom which may or not have any truth.

And by 'allowed' I mean she hasn't come out to say it's untrue, so that suggests she supports his writing.

Thrown a tantrum as the late Queen wouldn't allow her to have a certain tiara for her wedding.

Pretended that Justin Welby had already married them.

Ad nauseum.

@Nushyboots Exactly! Despite what people say on this thread this does not happen with two white parents having a baby.

Ofcourse the royal family are racists. It's just part of the whole superiority complex. That's why they are in those positions.

They probably look down on us all tbf.