2 racist royals?

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So who are the 2 royals who commented on Archie's skin now that Piers Morgan has named them on live tv

Imo

bullying pure and simple from the Sussex camp.
Ever since they left
drip drip drip

Stand up and say what was actually said and stop with the insinuations.

Edit if anything was actually said as Meghan said conversations plural and Harry conversation singular

I also think a lot of this fiasco is down to Harry. It seems that Meghan was not aware of the hierarchy in the RF and that despite her acting training, polish and glamour, that she would always be second fiddle to Kate. I think she (Meghan) had this idea that she was going to sweep in and transform the RF, and when it didn't happen she felt constrained by her role and blamed Kate/William.

I also get the culture clash between California and England. You cannot throw two women from very different backgrounds together and assume they will be best buddies. Kate and Meghan clearly don't get on but that doesn't mean there is anything "wrong" with either of them, it's just a personality clash.

I don't call her KM because she isn't "KM" - I suppose I could call her CW for Catherine Wales/ Windsor, but that wouldn't be as clear.

Meghan is however, very clear as just Meghan or MM.

There were newspaper reports some time back that Kate was particularly keen on the 'recollections vary' line in the statement put out by the Palace. If true, this would fit in with the current revelations.

Well whats wrong with that? (Better than "I am a racist"..........)

for those who say that Meghan and Harry haven't claimed racism, they took a prize, quote:

"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were presented with their award by Kerry Kennedy, the daughter of Robert F. Kennedy, who thanked the busy couple for showing up and explained that they were receiving this recognition because they spoke out against racism within the royal family"

In reality it’s Harry and Meghan treating the Windsors with caution because the Windsors have shown themselves to be racist about their own grandchild and nephew by being concerned about the colour of his skin as a prince.

Racism, if they had stayed the likelihood is they would need at least the same protection as George etc they are at bigger risk because there is an extra layer George is at risk because he is heir to the throne son of the next in line and grandaddy is the king of England archie has grandad as a king daddy as an heir etc and he is mixed race so anti monarch people will target him AND racists will too so I would expect a discussion from that point of view quite early on

The kids are probably safer in America

No but they are the future and soon their opinions will be the only ones that are relevant

And you don’t think ‘Kate’ is very clear as just ‘Kate’? How many other Kates do you know in the Royal family?

And why do you assume Meghan’s surname would still be Markle? Her husband and children’s surname is Mountbatten-Windsor, she would likely use that.

Haven’t read whole thread, but why make the claim if they aren’t prepared to say who they are referring to? It’s less shocking than many stories that have been published, and if the Sussexes are witnesses and stand by the claim it’s unlikely that there would be a court case.

Absolutely. This surely in this context isn't racist?

Because a) they're usually lying b) it's a classic thing said by absolute racists to validate themselves, and c) they're saying it to speak for a minority of which they are not part.

It's like an MRA on here telling us he's not being sexist because some of his best friends are women.

Did the letter say about the Princess of wales or mention Catherine by name because at the time they were two seperate people

I think also folks have to remember the narrative changed. On the Oprah interview Meghan said it happened when she was pregnant. Harry then joins and said it happened right at the start of the relationship and directly contradicts her. The book then gives Megan’s version.

It was said to harry, not Megan, she confirmed this, so it would indicate Harry’s version is the truth, it was said at the beginning of the relationship. and as he states not with racist intent. It was Megan who said it was a safe assumption that archies skin tone may be a problem.

so the two of them disagreed, they gave different versions, but only one of them was there, harry, and his version was it was said light heartedly with no racist intent at the start of their relationship.

which also tells me, it is Megan who was briefing scobie, not harry. As it is her version that made the book.

She thought she had to do too much, and that she should be recompensed for effectively getting out of bed to greet people.

They were getting paid though, Harry was being paid £5million a year by Charles, they had a beautiful free home to go with the job, likely no outgoings as all their living expenses would have been covered. I guess she had assumed she would have access to the Royal Family billions, which the RF don't seem to like to part with.

Harry is known for being famously tight (also confirmed by Cressida) and he even publicly stated that Meghan had to pay for a new sofa and that he didn't want to use his own private wealth of tens of millions to support his own family when they decided to move abroad and felt aggrieved that his father didn't want to either.

Harry is like a lot of the Royals (none more so than the York family). Harry, and now Meghan, accept and soliciting very valuable 'gifts' from strangers for no other reason than their Royal family links. All much preferable than spending his own money and not unlike her very own toxic family, making money from publicly hurling his family under the bus.

Clearly by name, they would not be discussing a racist comment that Diana made about Archie, on account of her being dead.

Yes of course. Harry & Charles were just the victims of 'drama Queen' Meghan twisting words. It's always the woman's (more especially the black woman's) fault.

The racism & misogyny on this thread jumps out at me, I don't know about anyone else. The malice on display here is just scary.

Camilla was married to the then PoW. Would that not have made her the Princess of Wales?

(I have no idea how these titles work.)

@NonPlayerCharacter "Because a) they're usually lying b) it's a classic thing said by absolute racists to validate themselves, and c) they're saying it to speak for a minority of which they are not part.

It's like an MRA on here telling us he's not being sexist because some of his best friends are women"

Yes, this. The number of black Mumsnetters who have collections of gollywogs is truly astonishing.

technically yes on marriage, but she rejected it, and opted for the Duchess of Cornwall, she was not the princess of wales and didn’t use the title, for obvious reasons, the optics, so there is no way she’d have been referred to as such in a private letter.

It's like an MRA on here telling us he's not being sexist because some of his best friends are women.

Well not really because MRA viciously hate and resent women and are often actively working hard to hurt and undermine them. Well meaning but occasionally clumsily expressed thoughts and ideas around race by MN posters is hardly the same thing.

I have seen women on here, married to MOC who have mixed race children be told they’re racist and can’t use their close family members as excuse for their supposed racism which completely baffles me and makes me just dismiss most allegations of racism unless overt and obvious.

@Livingtothefull I think there are a few of us who are gobsmacked by the misogyny and racism on display. I only joined the thread this morning and I’m not going back however many pages, but even the little I’ve read you think “wow, which century and society are you in?”

Because for some it is easy to imagine a royal exclaiming : "Christ, I hope the child is light skinned" or "We'll be alright, he'll be fairly pale" or "Good for PR if he's fairly dark".

You’re not alone.

White people wonder why minorities don’t always want to ‘integrate’ with white people. This thread is why.