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Omid Scobie's new book

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boxedandribboned · 04/11/2023 20:38

Heads up, Omid is back on the PR trail...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-author-omid-scobie-31362434

BTW, can anyone explain why he's Harper's Royal reporter when he only seems to have access to or report on Harry and Meghan? It's a bit strange.

Harry and Meghan's biographer calls King Charles 'unpopular' in scathing jibe

Omid Scobie's new 'explosive' book Endgame will be published on November 28 - and its description on Amazon says the author investigates the current state of the British monarchy

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-author-omid-scobie-31362434

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Newkidintow · 26/11/2023 12:05

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 11:48

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar

Exactly. This quote is from one of the People Mag articles.

Prince Harry was famously close with his grandmother Queen Elizabeth.”

The only source for this idea is Harry himself.

I must say when I read Spare I got the distinct impression that Harry wasn’t as close to HM as he liked to believe. It came across to me anyway that she knew she was dealing with someone who wasn’t quite stable and treated him with kid gloves.

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 12:08

I think the best Grannies make every child feel like their favorite.

MrsFinkelstein · 26/11/2023 12:16

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 10:35

If it’s anything like most families, she was calling out of kindness to check on Harry but then had to pretend she had no information when he started asking questions. She’s likely walking a line between caring about her cousin and knowing his behaviour is not entirely normal.

This actually makes much more sense. It's just the spin (likely from Scobie) to centre H&M.

feellikeanalien · 26/11/2023 12:30

The trouble is that even if they aren't involved in this book directly, if what Scobie says has even an element of truth then it has to have come from H&M or someone close to them. Even if this is old information it was presumably passed to him so it could be repeated.

There are two possibilities I think. Either H&M are involved or Scobie has just decided that he wants to jump on the royal scandal bandwagon and make some cash.

Unfortunately for H&M it doesn't really matter which is true. If what he is saying is true (and that is another moot point) then they will be connected with this book in the eyes of many.

The comments about Kate are just downright nasty though and makes Scobie looked like a nasty little idiot.

JSMill · 26/11/2023 12:36

Either H and M have cooperated with the book or he's made an awful lot of it up. By his own admission, Prince William froze him out so there will be no cooperation from KP.

Medlady · 26/11/2023 12:56

I suspect H&M have dreaded the publication of this book as much as the RF dreaded the publication of Spare.

everything was settling down a bit, and I think they were ready for that. now it’s effectively back to daggers drawn, courtesy of OS

Maireas · 26/11/2023 13:11

What is your evidence that they have dreaded this book's publication, @Medlady ?
It would be easy enough to distance themselves. Put out a statement saying that it's not done with their connivance, perhaps?.

Bookworm1111 · 26/11/2023 13:28

@Maireas I get what @Medlady is saying. The negative stories had died down quite a bit over the summer and it looked like there might be a rapprochement between Charles and Harry. Now this book has scuppered that for the time being. Putting a statement would be a waste of time - no one believes that they haven't been working with him. So I can see that yes, they could've been dreading it coming out.

Maireas · 26/11/2023 13:34

I see what you mean, @Bookworm1111 in that respect. However, we have no idea if they were dreading it or not. Based on previous behaviour I would guess they think it's justified, but that's conjecture.
Maybe they will respond.

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 13:35

However awful he is, I’d be a bit relieved that he’s been so obvious about it all. No one can pretend that H&M didn’t cooperate, feed and encourage this nastiness at some point, even if today they are backing away.

No doubt can remain that he possesses even a modicum of objectivity.

themessygarden · 26/11/2023 13:40

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle had nothing to do with Omid Scobie's biography Endgame, Sussex insiders have indicated to MailOnline.

This was a few weeks ago. No one believed them.

I see there is a headline from the Times interview, that OS has said he did not interview MM for the book, but he does confirm they have mutual friends so that makes it easier to get information. We know that none of Harry and Meghan's friends would dare disclose anything unless it was with their absolute approval.

I think Omid had to somehow regain some credibility as he has been getting a lot of flack about it being a work of fiction. I think its clear and he has now confirmed it did come directly from the Sussexes. ,

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 13:42

themessygarden · 26/11/2023 13:40

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle had nothing to do with Omid Scobie's biography Endgame, Sussex insiders have indicated to MailOnline.

This was a few weeks ago. No one believed them.

I see there is a headline from the Times interview, that OS has said he did not interview MM for the book, but he does confirm they have mutual friends so that makes it easier to get information. We know that none of Harry and Meghan's friends would dare disclose anything unless it was with their absolute approval.

I think Omid had to somehow regain some credibility as he has been getting a lot of flack about it being a work of fiction. I think its clear and he has now confirmed it did come directly from the Sussexes. ,

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Wait! What? H&M’s friends talk to the evil Mail Online when it suits them?

Bookworm1111 · 26/11/2023 13:50

No, we don't have any idea @Maireas but I think it's worth considering how things have moved on since Finding Freedom. That book was very much written with their approval - we know that because it came out in court that they'd cooperated and supplied info. But the publication of this one? It's a different climate for them now. Their Netflix deal looks like it won't be renewed in 2025 and they've lost their Spotify one. They have been branded grifters and whiners and their actions around the Queen's death roundly criticised. Even Oprah's distanced herself. MM seems most aware of the backlash and by signing with Ari Emmanuel's agency is telling the world she's Hollywood focused again. So another book that paints them versus the Royals AGAIN is not what she needs right now.

Bookworm1111 · 26/11/2023 13:54

I see there is a headline from the Times interview, that OS has said he did not interview MM for the book, but he does confirm they have mutual friends so that makes it easier to get information. We know that none of Harry and Meghan's friends would dare disclose anything unless it was with their absolute approval.

I think Omid had to somehow regain some credibility as he has been getting a lot of flack about it being a work of fiction. I think its clear and he has now confirmed it did come directly from the Sussexes.

Yep, he's basically confirmed they have fed him info for this one too. The fact that he's broken ranks to say it is interesting. I wonder if they are actually trying to distance themselves IRL, not returning messages etc, and this was his way of reminding them that he holds the power in their dynamic. He's very shrewd – he'll have held onto every text message, every email, every doc, that's ever been passed to him by their friends or by them directly. They must know that if they try to demonise him, his next book could be about their downfall…

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/11/2023 13:56

It would be easy enough to distance themselves. Put out a statement saying that it's not done with their connivance, perhaps?

As others have suggested I expect it's too late for that. They may or may not have connived with Scobie this time, but their credibility on the subject is pretty well shot with what's already known

And that's the trouble with lying ... when and if it's decided to tell the truth you can find you've lost an audience

Maireas · 26/11/2023 13:58

Fair point, @Bookworm1111 - but you're right, the genie is out of the bottle, they've talked a lot about very private moments within the Royal Family, always to the latter's detriment.
I saw one report this morning that Harry allegedly wants to "forgive" and move on. I thought that showed an astonishing lack of self awareness, if true.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/11/2023 14:02

I think Omid had to somehow regain some credibility

I expect it's too late for that too

Let's not forget it's not just H&M who lied about coopeerating with him - didn't Scobie deny their involvement to the court himself?

Bookworm1111 · 26/11/2023 14:02

Maireas · 26/11/2023 13:58

Fair point, @Bookworm1111 - but you're right, the genie is out of the bottle, they've talked a lot about very private moments within the Royal Family, always to the latter's detriment.
I saw one report this morning that Harry allegedly wants to "forgive" and move on. I thought that showed an astonishing lack of self awareness, if true.

I practically fell off my chair laughing when I read that quote. "I'm ready to forget. Get an apology or explanation? At this point, who cares, right?"

I mean, REALLY!? You put your family through the ringer on a global scale and then you just shrug like it's no big deal anymore? The lack of self-awareness is staggering!

themessygarden · 26/11/2023 14:03

Yes, it is interesting that he has broken ranks with the party line of no collaboration. His info about the RF must have dried up though, now that they are not involved in any way with the RF, so his only info is from the Sussexes perspective.

Omid Scobie's new book
Maireas · 26/11/2023 14:04

I know, @Bookworm1111 . Harry's arrogance, entitlement and lack of self awareness is beyond belief.

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 14:05

Bookworm1111 · 26/11/2023 14:02

I practically fell off my chair laughing when I read that quote. "I'm ready to forget. Get an apology or explanation? At this point, who cares, right?"

I mean, REALLY!? You put your family through the ringer on a global scale and then you just shrug like it's no big deal anymore? The lack of self-awareness is staggering!

He really doesn’t see it, does he?

It’s like the many threads here about narcissistic family members who point fingers all around while engaging in toxic behavior.

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 14:07

I think they need to be very worried about what Omid Scobie will say next.

He’s not going to abide being cast off like all of the Trevors, the Jessicas, and certainly not like the Eton and Army pals.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 26/11/2023 14:18

Probably the most generous thing you could say is that they were clearly talking to him and sharing information up to around the time of the Queen's death (and possibly up to the catastrophic car chase bollocks, which he appeared to have the inside track on). Then they probably stopped speaking to him after that, in order to have some semblance of plausible deniability at the point of publication of the book - which was supposed to have been in August, but was delayed to allow him to include his sage and considered observations on the coronation.

The last year (and it has been only a year since the Netflix doc hit) has been absolutely bonkers, and seen them lose a lot of good will and become a laughing stock thanks to Spare, South Park, loss of their Spotify deal, candles and feathers etc. But since the summer, with WME coming on board and the relative successes of Invictus and some of their other appearances, it did seem that they were moving on from the RF and into their own niche. So the OS book, which might at the time of conception have seemed to be a good supplementary volume to their own content, is now like kryptonite for them, because it's just dredged everything back up again, and in the most petty and vindictive manner, from the most ridiculous of men who everyone knows has been their close ally and collaborator.

tattychicken · 26/11/2023 14:18

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 11:48

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar

Exactly. This quote is from one of the People Mag articles.

Prince Harry was famously close with his grandmother Queen Elizabeth.”

The only source for this idea is Harry himself.

Not so close to her that he made the effort to visit her at Balmoral that last summer, when it was clear to all it was likely to be her last.

AliceOlive · 26/11/2023 14:20

What’s the candles and feathers reference?

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