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Omid Scobie's new book

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boxedandribboned · 04/11/2023 20:38

Heads up, Omid is back on the PR trail...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-author-omid-scobie-31362434

BTW, can anyone explain why he's Harper's Royal reporter when he only seems to have access to or report on Harry and Meghan? It's a bit strange.

Harry and Meghan's biographer calls King Charles 'unpopular' in scathing jibe

Omid Scobie's new 'explosive' book Endgame will be published on November 28 - and its description on Amazon says the author investigates the current state of the British monarchy

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-author-omid-scobie-31362434

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Maireas · 25/11/2023 08:43

What dreadful behaviour. I see that the Scobie book fans those flames.

Serenster · 25/11/2023 08:44

The prologue of Endgame has been released, and in it Omid Scobie writes that on the afternoon of QEII’s death he received a text from “someone very close to the Family” saying “Please don’t say anything yet but I think it’s happened”.

Who could that be, we all wonder?

themessygarden · 25/11/2023 08:46

Oh for gods sake, now Meghan has apparently alleged there were TWO racists in the family, so it went from one racist, to zero racist, now it's two racists.

Is Omid going to give the down-low on who they are or is it back to getting the speculation into full swing again.

Maireas · 25/11/2023 08:46

What a mystery. The same person who was in the car when they went to see the flowers and witnessed Kate being cool with Meghan?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/11/2023 08:47

Lest we forget: Meghan told Oprah that conversations were had over Archie’s skin colour and this was somehow connected to him not being given a title and security. In the same interview, Harry contradicted this, saying he had the conversation with someone before they were even married (so before Archie existed). Because Oprah is a hack, she didn’t pick up on this inconsistency. Harry said he did not make the person and never would. This was (rightly, logically) picked up by the media as an accusation of racism - which hung over the RF unchallenged by Harry for over 2 years until his post Spare interview with Tom Bradby. Both his granparents died during those 2 years with that stain hanging over the family. In that time, they pick up an award from the Robert F Kennedy Jr Foundation for challenging RACISM in the Royal Family.

There has never been a clear account or evidence that anyone in the RF said anything racist directly to Meghan or directly aimed at Archie. Meghan’s account is “conversations were had”. If Oprah was a better interviewer and hadn’t spent the moments after Meg’s words gaping like a fish, there may have been some clarity.

2 years later, Harry then backtracks in the Bradby interview and says the remarks (which nobody but he knows are true, because even M is getting this second hand) were “unconscious bias”. Which is a very different kettle of fish. Tom Bradby and the rest of us are all now gaping like fish. M’s accusation: Archie’s title, security, tied to his skin colour - unconscious bias in that context doesn’t even make sense.

Harry waffles on about unconscious bias turning into racism if it is not stopped. The RF need to do more to stop it.

The Ngozi Fulani incident: NF makes an accusation of racism. She was the one on the receiving end and she perceived it as such. William takes swift and pretty brutal action against Lady Susan Hussey and sacks her. Harry pipes up saying Lady Hussey is lovely and would never do anything racist.

Harry: I will never tell anyone who made the remarks.

Omid Scobie: I know who it is. And there’s a second member of the royal household too. And we are back to racism.

ElevenSeven · 25/11/2023 08:49

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/11/2023 08:47

Lest we forget: Meghan told Oprah that conversations were had over Archie’s skin colour and this was somehow connected to him not being given a title and security. In the same interview, Harry contradicted this, saying he had the conversation with someone before they were even married (so before Archie existed). Because Oprah is a hack, she didn’t pick up on this inconsistency. Harry said he did not make the person and never would. This was (rightly, logically) picked up by the media as an accusation of racism - which hung over the RF unchallenged by Harry for over 2 years until his post Spare interview with Tom Bradby. Both his granparents died during those 2 years with that stain hanging over the family. In that time, they pick up an award from the Robert F Kennedy Jr Foundation for challenging RACISM in the Royal Family.

There has never been a clear account or evidence that anyone in the RF said anything racist directly to Meghan or directly aimed at Archie. Meghan’s account is “conversations were had”. If Oprah was a better interviewer and hadn’t spent the moments after Meg’s words gaping like a fish, there may have been some clarity.

2 years later, Harry then backtracks in the Bradby interview and says the remarks (which nobody but he knows are true, because even M is getting this second hand) were “unconscious bias”. Which is a very different kettle of fish. Tom Bradby and the rest of us are all now gaping like fish. M’s accusation: Archie’s title, security, tied to his skin colour - unconscious bias in that context doesn’t even make sense.

Harry waffles on about unconscious bias turning into racism if it is not stopped. The RF need to do more to stop it.

The Ngozi Fulani incident: NF makes an accusation of racism. She was the one on the receiving end and she perceived it as such. William takes swift and pretty brutal action against Lady Susan Hussey and sacks her. Harry pipes up saying Lady Hussey is lovely and would never do anything racist.

Harry: I will never tell anyone who made the remarks.

Omid Scobie: I know who it is. And there’s a second member of the royal household too. And we are back to racism.

The good thing is that absolutely no one is listening to them now. They are a laughing stock.

As is Scobie. He’s moaning in interviews today that hes been blocked by royals from coming to events so he couldn’t ’do his job’. What a moron.

mrsmingleton · 25/11/2023 08:56

This is the thing - no one really cares anymore. OS is hoping to sell his book and has asked people to read it as opposed to just reading the snippets in the newspapers. It's more of the same old with a few new insinuations eg what Harry said to his father re Frogmore Cottage " don't you want to see your Grandchildren" - that is either made up or fed from Harry. Now if I were Harry and hadn't said that I would be pissed off.

Maireas · 25/11/2023 09:13

Indeed, @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar . Plus, neither Meghan nor Harry can therefore explain how the children are legally and officially Prince and Princess, in spite of the alleged "concerns" about skin colour preventing the acquisition of titles.

Makemydaypunk · 25/11/2023 10:31

All this book will do is garner even more sympathy for the royals, it’s all getting a bit desperate and pathetic now rather than shocking, this book won’t be as dramatic and devastating as Omid and expects, it will just make most people roll their eyes and be yesterday’s news very quickly, if Spare didn’t bring the end of the royal family then this has no hope, bargain bin is that way ➡️

Samcro · 25/11/2023 10:51

i have to lol at the people pretending the rf is not racist.
PP, PH the lady in waiting, to name 3, thats just the ones we know about.
racism is not always shouted. it can be subtle (yep looking at you sil of mine)

sashagabadon · 25/11/2023 11:12

Serenster · 25/11/2023 08:44

The prologue of Endgame has been released, and in it Omid Scobie writes that on the afternoon of QEII’s death he received a text from “someone very close to the Family” saying “Please don’t say anything yet but I think it’s happened”.

Who could that be, we all wonder?

William?

only joking of course, clearly Harry. I’d be pissed off with OS revealing that little titbit if I was Harry as it makes me sound cold and uncaring. I wonder if Harry and OS have fallen out?

Serenster · 25/11/2023 11:16

only joking of course, clearly Harry.

Actually I genuinely don’t think it’s Harry, as we know from Spare that Harry didn’t find out that his grandmother had died until his plane landed at Aberdeen, which was after the formal announcement on the BBC at 6.30pm.

Given Omid also tells us in this book that there were discussions going on with “Harry’s team” and the Palace about whether the official announcement could be delayed until after Harry was told, it seems clear to me that the most likely person to be texting Omid saying “I think it’s happened” before the official announcement was Meghan. Likely while Harry was still in the air.

Serenster · 25/11/2023 11:20

(Omid of course doesn’t reveal any further text exchanges with this person “very close to the Royal family”! I think it’s pretty likely that there would have been some a bit later confirming that QEII had indeed died)

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/11/2023 11:37

Lest we forget: Meghan told Oprah that conversations were had over Archie’s skin colour and this was somehow connected to him not being given a title and security ... This was (rightly, logically) picked up by the media as an accusation of racism

This time it wasn't just the media's fault though; on the basis of Meghan's own words the gleeful shrieks about "proof of racism" all over SM were deafening

FWIW I've no doubt there are some in the RF who have issues around POC, but given the inconvenience of Harry's rowing-back it's perhaps a lesson in not automatically believing everything that's said - especially if it comes from people already proved to lie

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/11/2023 11:41

(Scobie's) moaning in interviews today that hes been blocked by royals from coming to events so he couldn’t ’do his job’

Was he ever actually at any in the first place, rather than hanging around outside hoping for a few words from attendees and then making things up to fill the gaps?

I know the RF keep some very dubious company, but can't imagine he'd be the first choice for an invitation

sashagabadon · 25/11/2023 12:02

Serenster · 25/11/2023 11:16

only joking of course, clearly Harry.

Actually I genuinely don’t think it’s Harry, as we know from Spare that Harry didn’t find out that his grandmother had died until his plane landed at Aberdeen, which was after the formal announcement on the BBC at 6.30pm.

Given Omid also tells us in this book that there were discussions going on with “Harry’s team” and the Palace about whether the official announcement could be delayed until after Harry was told, it seems clear to me that the most likely person to be texting Omid saying “I think it’s happened” before the official announcement was Meghan. Likely while Harry was still in the air.

Actually I think you’re absolutely right and it must have been Meghan. And if you are what a gross betrayal of Harry confidences.
It never crossed my mind that a wife would betray a husband like that so I assumed Harry.

meercat23 · 25/11/2023 12:18

sashagabadon · 25/11/2023 12:02

Actually I think you’re absolutely right and it must have been Meghan. And if you are what a gross betrayal of Harry confidences.
It never crossed my mind that a wife would betray a husband like that so I assumed Harry.

Actually I can think of other candidates who seem to like various sections of the media. I won't name any as there is no evidence but I would be surprised if at least some of the others who like the media spotlight do not pass on bits. This particular incident, if true, is rather horrible whoever did it.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/11/2023 12:28

Samcro · 25/11/2023 10:51

i have to lol at the people pretending the rf is not racist.
PP, PH the lady in waiting, to name 3, thats just the ones we know about.
racism is not always shouted. it can be subtle (yep looking at you sil of mine)

Not sure that’s what most people are saying . The question is more about who told OS stuff such as C and M allegedly not speaking during a car journey ? That Harry allegedly asked his father if he didn’t want to see his grandchildren when told to vacate Frogmore House ?
And all the other very specific stuff .
Any ideas ?

GrouchyKiwi · 25/11/2023 13:15

It's all very tawdry and desperate from Scobie, trying to stay relevant, like Paul Burrell and those others who have written similar books.

I'd be so frustrated if I were M&H (assuming they had little to do with this, which I do; I think it's clear he's used old conversations from when things were pretty difficult). Everything had quietened down nicely, and they've been getting some good coverage for the causes they support.

Maireas · 25/11/2023 13:21

Where's it all come from, @GrouchyKiwi , all this information for the book? If M&H aren't happy or want to distance themselves they can always take legal action against Scobie. They're not shy about doing that.

GrouchyKiwi · 25/11/2023 13:30

I think it's come from stuff they've told him some time ago, Maireas. I guess we'll see how things go, but it seems to me that they're moving on somewhat. I could be wrong.

Maireas · 25/11/2023 13:46

Oh, I see. You think that they gave him the information at the time, but as time has gone on, they regret it? Interesting. Unfortunately, once you start with that kind of stuff, you can't go back.

GrouchyKiwi · 25/11/2023 14:03

Absolutely. It probably feels great to give "your truth" but once you've done that you can't control what happens.

Which is a lesson it seems William learned from his parents' mistakes (well, I guess he's still got plenty of time to mess that up!), but Harry didn't.

Maireas · 25/11/2023 14:05

Too true. They'll never put that genie back in the bottle. Like Harry's backtracking on the royals being racist - claiming that's not what they implied, but what the British press said. Risible.

pilates · 25/11/2023 14:28

If the information for OS’s book hasn’t come from H&M I’m sure we can expect a public denial.

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