Omid Scobie's new book

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Heads up, Omid is back on the PR trail...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-author-omid-scobie-31362434

BTW, can anyone explain why he's Harper's Royal reporter when he only seems to have access to or report on Harry and Meghan? It's a bit strange.

If the RF have issues with racism @Iwantcakeeveryday , why would they want anything to with them either ?
Probably best to continue with their lovely lives in California.

well, how do we know they do? Meghan doesn't seem to....

Yes that is the mystery. Why would those pure souls want to befoul themselves by reconciling with the royal family.

Thomas is also not in this book, why is he being raised on this thread?

Because conversation has turned to the angling for a Christmas invitation, and there's a suggestion reconciliation with Thomas is one of the cards on that negotiation table, placed there by Charles. Do you understand the concept of an evolving conversation?

If H&M are right to avoid the Markles because of all their public tittle tattle (and I don't disagree with you there - I'd give the entire Markle clan a wide berth), then you need to accept that the RF is right to avoid H&M for their very public and much more damaging tittle tattle. H&M have done exactly what Samantha, ThomasJr etc have done - they've just done it with higher production values.

As to consorting with racists - well, Meghan, I'm afraid, married the only on record racist in the current RF. I'm a woman of Indian heritage, you can't tell me that the man who referred to his colleague as a P* is someone with "unconscious bias" or some such nonsense. That's overt, nasty racism of the sort I've experienced repeatedly. I doubt it was an isolated incident.

And blackmail? Well again, neither Harry nor Meghan are above that, are they? The hints of the 400 pages that couldn't be printed in Spare because they were too damaging. The hints of the Meghan biography and "her truth". The hints of the alleged racist that could not be named, but hung over everyone's heads for 2 years (and then heavily back-tracked in the Harry/Tom Bradby interview, much to everyone's astonishment). What was the entire enterprise of Spare and the Netflix doc other than some elaborate and dolled up version of a blackmail tape? Do as I say, give me the apologies and funding I want, otherwise I will tell all and not stop.

So yes, if you want to say forgiveness should not extend to Thomas Markle for his role in creating a public shit storm, then don't apply a double standard of required forgiveness to people like William, Catherine, Charles and Camilla, who have been absolutely vilified because of repeated, public, allegations made by H&M against them - and all for millions of dollars that they have pocketed at the cost of others' distress and the airing of private family business.

So you don’t believe the recent sources close to the Sussexes saying they would accept an invitation to Sandringham for Christmas?
If my in-laws were racist I wouldn’t be in the same room .

Iwantcakeeveryday · Today 09:22
A family already considered by many to have issues with racism is now making a condition that H & M reconcile with someone who regularly sits with those who have been racist to Meghan. I guess it does make sense.

But wasn't it racism from the RF which drove them out of the U.K in the first place? When all we'd heard against Thomas M was the leaking of a letter?

No, I'm convinced there must be a reason why Grandpa C is so much more important than Grandpa T. So puzzled - what could it possibly be...?

Excellent post @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar and I am sorry you have experienced racism 💐

It's all a load of nonsense isn't it? Newspaper junk.

This is just made up rubbish by tabloids to keep the clicks happening and the money rolling in. There’s been a lot of it recently and it’s repetitive. Last week it was speculation about Charles’ birthday, this week it’s speculation about Christmas.

As for Thomas Markle - we’ve discussed this until the cows came home and left again - but I’ll remind those that need reminding. He’s on YouTube and also an Australian tv news/show called ‘Spotlight’ laughing along with 2 of the people that have talked about Meghan fouly - her half sister and half brother. The things they’ve said and done! Why would Meghan expose herself and her little children to that man?

It is a pattern of some on sm & the tabloids that when Meghan and Harry are pictured out and enjoying themselves doing things, the speculations and criticism over imagined things ramps up.

married the only on record racist in the current RF

Thats not true is it. the biggest known racist who repeatedly made racist comments and never apologised, was Phillip.

Which is why I said CURRENT Royal Family.

Do you understand the concept of an evolving conversation?

Do you understand the concept of different threads for different topics? Threads are meant to stay on topic and if they don't then they can and have been removed.

oh so its all ok because he died? the head of the family was a racist. Clearly Harry has evolved and apologised more than once for the comment he made, leaving the family largely because of what his wife was facing, which includes racism. But of course you are going to focus on him despite that and completely dismiss the actual racist in the family, and of course excuse the person who was concerned about Archies skin colour. Of course you are.

If you don't like it, please report it. I don't actually see how it is off topic to be talking about avenues to conciliation between the RF and H&M and the conditions that might pertain to that, in the context of a book that has been written about the future of the RF, and presumably contains large chunks about H&M's possible roles within and without that (since they are one of the couples on its from cover).

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar

your argument is royalism in a nutshell .

Rape trafficked teenagers and hide behind the institution for protection - all fine ( Andrew is only one of many offenders among the Windsors and their hangers on)

Criticise the institution- you are the lowest of the low .
How shocking though that you would actually proffer that as an argument !

You said the quiet bit out loud !

How weak is this institution that a few home truths threaten its very existence so fundamentally?

You really do love setting up a straw man, don't you. CURRENT means CURRENT, that's why I typed CURRENT. Nothing I have typed included dead relatives, so in what way am I excusing them?

And it was HARRY who excused the alleged skin colour commentator - in his interview with Tom Bradby, saying that it was unconscious bias, not racism. HARRY doesn't think whoever this was is a racist, and neither, I presume, does his wife, or he wouldn't have said - to Tom Bradby's astonishment - that Meghan wasn't calling anyone racist during her Oprah interview. HE said the press made it up. Are you saying HARRY was lying?

Clearly Harry has evolved - to you, maybe.

I’ve just read that you called Harry the ‘biggest racist ‘ in the ‘royals’

Clear nonsense of course and iprojection - nothing less

Are you worried about who will be revealed as the latest royal racist when the book comes out ?
Harry withheld that info initially

You've nailed it there totally. When there is nothing to report about H&M the media who have made millions from them, just make it up. We'll be hearing about their non invitation to Sandringham for years to come, just blot it out.

They are living their lives elsewhere, and looking very happy despite the desperation for them to look miserable!

More straw men, all from your own imagination. I've said nothing of the sort, not even quietly.

How funny it is that all PP's gaffes that are treated as just jokes and his sense of humour, are now erased because he's dead. It was endless over decades

Where did the story about their birthday chat with Charles and the message from Archie and Lily originate from?

No, I did not call him that, I wrote: the only on record racist in the current RF.

The poster called Iwantcakeeveryday used the words "biggest racist" in referring to Prince Philip.

No, I am not worried about it in the slightest.

Harry withheld that info initially

Well first, if it's in the book, it rather proves he's speaking to Scobie. Second, he said there was no racism in his Tom Bradby interview, only unconscious bias. Third, if he has been holding it over the RF's head as some sort of gotcha for when he needs it, then that makes him sound like a bit of a blackmailer who hasn't got what he wants from his previous bleatings.

And it was HARRY who excused the alleged skin colour commentator

No he didn't, and please stop shouting and being rude to me.
Harry simply said they didn't use the word racist int he interview, then explained the difference between unconscious bias, which he admits having had, and racism and that if someone doesn't change once it has been pointed out to them, then it becomes racism. He didn't confirm or deny whether that was the case with his family member. He made the factual point that they did not use the word, racist, that they told their story and the tabloids labelled that persons 'concerns with skin colour' as racist. People like you have twisted what he said to mean what you want.

Prince Phillip is a member of the royal family, alive or dead, as the Queen is. If you meant living then you should have said that to avoid confusion over your clumsily written excuses.

he said there was no racism
No he didn't.

“There was—there was concern about his skin color,” said Harry. “Right, wouldn’t you describe that as essentially racist?” Tom asked, to which Harry said, “I wouldn’t, not having lived within that family.” The Prince then went on to outline his views on “the difference between racism and unconscious bias.”

Quote from interview ..