Page 7 | What does Prince harry mean by this in his speech at the Wellchild Awards?

Maireas · 08/09/2023 22:01

Oh my gawd, more sweating adolescents smelling of Lynx Africa and vape in an airless classroom. Joy.

Roussette · 08/09/2023 22:17

LuluBlakey1 · 08/09/2023 21:49

Can't stand him, or his wife or her double Omid Scobie. HM The Queen would have felt so let down by his disloyalty. However, polite and well-mannered she was, I bet her heart sank when she met Markle and realised what she was like. The Queen was no idiot- she'd have spotted a narcissist who was on the make from a mile off.

Would you call Kate 'Middleton' ?

I don't think so. 'Markle' is rude

Samcro · 08/09/2023 22:24

MopeAndGlory · 08/09/2023 15:02

to be honest, he should just bugger off back to usa and stay there. neither him nor his wife are welcome here.

And all saying similar: as the parent of a child who has benefitted from WellChild and seen him speak and present awards and spend time with kids at two of the awards ceremonies, yes he is welcome here.

He has been really dedicated to this charity. He really connects with the children and families, sits and plays with children with complex special needs, talks with grace and confidence with families facing the loss of a child with a terminal illness.

To me, and many families like ours, he is welcome and with good reason,

Fine you don’t like him. So ignore him. Get on with your life. I fear spite driving him away from Wellchild and Invictus.

Think this needs re posting

Samcro · 08/09/2023 22:26

LuluBlakey1 · 08/09/2023 21:49

Can't stand him, or his wife or her double Omid Scobie. HM The Queen would have felt so let down by his disloyalty. However, polite and well-mannered she was, I bet her heart sank when she met Markle and realised what she was like. The Queen was no idiot- she'd have spotted a narcissist who was on the make from a mile off.

Oh yes
meghan must have been hard for the queen.
cos her delightful son wasn’t a problem, just Meghan

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Mornusting · 08/09/2023 22:52

BreakTheChain · 08/09/2023 10:31

Taken as a snippet from the full quote it could mean a lot of things but in context of the whole quote its pretty self explanatory. Why only provide a couple of sentences?

"As you know, I was unable to attend the awards last year when my grandmother passed away,” he told those gathered for the annual event at The Hurlingham Club in south-west London on Thursday evening.
“As you also probably know, she would have been the first person to insist I still come to be with you all instead of going to her and that’s precisely why I know, exactly one year on, that she is looking down on all of us tonight, happy we’re continuing to spotlight such an incredible community"

I think that he has a bit of a liberty saying that the Queen will be happy looking down blah blah ..... Maybe he is trying to make himself feel less guilty about the pain he caused the Queen and the fact that he didn't visit her prior to her death.

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Mornusting · 08/09/2023 22:54

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/09/2023 14:26

They have severed contact with everyone including Megan’s family apart from Doria, leaving them with no extended family at all.

They have lots of extended family, Harry's mother's family are acknowledged warmly in his book, his two aunts attended Lili's christening. Charles Spencer came out forcefully defending him on Twitter a few weeks ago.

They seem close to Eugenie and Beatrice.

Meghan seems close to her niece Ashleigh.

Why should they entertain the three mad Markles who are spending hours and hours on YouTube channels that spread conspiracy theories saying the kids don't exist, that Meghan was a prostitute and Doria a convict? Why should they entertain Samantha who is suing Meghan for talking about the subjective experience of her own childhood, and Thomas Jnr who puts on blackface on YouTube and simulates Meghan and Harry having sex? Why should they entertain Thomas Snr who went on a blackmail rampage talking with Piers Morgan and Dan Wootton, two of the journalists who have tormented Meghan for years. Are you aware that Thomas Snr, Samantha and the Daily Mail were the three main sources in Tom Bower's malicious book?

When Thomas Snr received the infamous letter, from Meghan, not only did he sell it to the Mail on Sunday, he also responded by asking for a photo opportunity for the media.

On every thread on Mumsnet where family members do less than this, the advice is to go no contact. Why is it that you want Meghan to entertain people who are so actively malevolent towards her?

I genuinely don't get why there is such support for the Markles? Is it because they look like you, and Meghan doesn't?

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and of course you have to slip in the racism accusation right at the end? I could ask the opposite question ?

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Samcro · 08/09/2023 22:55

I think he knew his grandmother better than us

Coronateachingagain · 08/09/2023 22:56

Nope. It is just name dropping. My grandmother the queen. Me the prince/Duke/etc as if we cared.

The dedication to this charity, which also enables him to remind everyone who he is.

Times a'changing.
Haha.

MissElinorDashwood · 08/09/2023 23:26

Iwantcakeeveryday · 08/09/2023 14:36

@MrsMaxDeWinter thank you, I am always so curious about posters who think its somehow a bad thing they don't have anything to do with the Markles given everything we know about them, as you've just written.

I’ve never been curious. I just assumed they have the same personality and parenting styles as Thomas, Samantha and Junior and that’s why they defend them.

MissElinorDashwood · 08/09/2023 23:34

I’ve been reading through several threads over the last few weeks and I must say, some posters sound radicalised.
I honestly don’t see the point in engaging with these voices. You’re just wasting your own precious time and sanity. Let them spew their hateful bile with like minded people and leave them to it.

MissElinorDashwood · 09/09/2023 00:25

MopeAndGlory · 08/09/2023 15:02

to be honest, he should just bugger off back to usa and stay there. neither him nor his wife are welcome here.

And all saying similar: as the parent of a child who has benefitted from WellChild and seen him speak and present awards and spend time with kids at two of the awards ceremonies, yes he is welcome here.

He has been really dedicated to this charity. He really connects with the children and families, sits and plays with children with complex special needs, talks with grace and confidence with families facing the loss of a child with a terminal illness.

To me, and many families like ours, he is welcome and with good reason,

Fine you don’t like him. So ignore him. Get on with your life. I fear spite driving him away from Wellchild and Invictus.

Thank you for sharing @MopeAndGlory . Wishing you and your child much love and strength.

Unfortunately, I realised on a previous Invictus thread, that there are people who lack compassion and the ability to restrain themselves from writing further, hateful posts (filled with wild speculations) when someone shares their struggles and positive experiences with anything Harry related. They are online bullies (that’s the only way I can describe what’s happening on this thread and others) and are so devoid of empathy and kindness that they won’t even acknowledge your post and the harm that they are causing.
You won’t change hearts and minds here.

One day they will realise the irreparable damage they are doing to the Monarchy and for that I am grateful to them.

If you’d like to talk further and share your experiences with WellChild and Harry, there is another thread you can join. WellChild is charity that is close to my heart also.

TheWayofBeing · 09/09/2023 01:27

Who gives a shit? He's a human. They're humans. They're all very wealthy humans.

Who fucking cares. People are starving, homeless. Who gives a fuck about a family of colonisers who have no idea what regular British life looks like? They're more distant than a middle/working class family in Spain/ India/ the US from us.

They don't give a shit about you. Stop caring about them.

Flowerybeing · 09/09/2023 05:21

Wow! This thread is quite something. I've never really understood the passion and sense of ownership that certain people have towards the royal family. I just don't get what's inherently special about them compared to other humans. They bleed red and have the same family squabbles like each one of us.
I know people have their sides on who is the good one and bad one in that family but to be honest no one has any inkling of what really goes on behind closed doors.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 06:18

and of course you have to slip in the racism accusation right at the end? I could ask the opposite question ?

Could you answer this then @Mornusting ?

What other reason is there to support the Markles in this debacle? Are you aware that Thomas Markle doesn't see his other grandchildren, that Thomas Jnr is estranged from his own kids, and Samantha from her own kids?

Neither Thomas Jnr and Samantha talk to their own mother?

And yet there is constant bitching about how sad it is that the Markles don't see Meghan and Harry's children. There is constant whinging about how only Doria is in their lives.

So, pray tell, what is it that makes it a problem that the Markles are estranged from Meghan? What is it that makes it problematic that the kids are close to Doria, but not the Markles. What gives the Markles this entitlement to see Meghan's kids when they are estranged from their own?

If you can give me a plausible answer, I will believe that supporting the ghastly Markles is not about race.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 06:31

MopeAndGlory · 08/09/2023 15:02

to be honest, he should just bugger off back to usa and stay there. neither him nor his wife are welcome here.

And all saying similar: as the parent of a child who has benefitted from WellChild and seen him speak and present awards and spend time with kids at two of the awards ceremonies, yes he is welcome here.

He has been really dedicated to this charity. He really connects with the children and families, sits and plays with children with complex special needs, talks with grace and confidence with families facing the loss of a child with a terminal illness.

To me, and many families like ours, he is welcome and with good reason,

Fine you don’t like him. So ignore him. Get on with your life. I fear spite driving him away from Wellchild and Invictus.

Thank you for sharing. I’m so sorry that you have had to be in the situation where you would need the services of WellChild.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 06:40

What other reason is there to support the Markles in this debacle?

I wrote a similar question and long post to that poster but it was eaten by the Mumsnet gods. But seriously - the Markles’ behaviour is certainly not any thing I would want to expose my children to and posters on other threads on Mumsnet would be advised to go low to no contact with them and so it’s so inconceivable that so many people criticise them for not having a relationship. I would be interested to know why so many people want them to as well.

Roussette · 09/09/2023 06:54

Everywhere you look there is endless praise for Harry's role with Well Child. Year after year. Even GB News and the Express who endlessly criticise him, have called him inspirational in his dedication to the Charity.

Then you come on MN. And because it's Harry, some posters have to knock him and cannot give one inch and say anything positive. We see it with Well Child, we see it with Invictus. It has to be pulled down and maligned and even if the two charities love him, he should go, give up something he has never wavered from in his compassionate support.
The obsessive hate of Harry and Meghan is out of control.
@MissElinorDashwood nailed it and if these posters think they are supporting the Monarchy in doing so, they could not be further from that. With every unpleasant unwarranted attack on Harry, my support of him grows and I am grateful for the day him and Meghan got out. And my criticism of the RF increases. He is good, very good at all of this and they lost somebody very valuable

Roussette · 09/09/2023 06:57

I would be interested to know why so many people want them to as well

Because @skullbabe it is a convenient tool to knock them with. Some people deep down know the likes of Samantha and the two Thomas's are vile, but it's a way of spreading disinformation and hate about H&M

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Mornusting · 09/09/2023 08:00

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 06:18

and of course you have to slip in the racism accusation right at the end? I could ask the opposite question ?

Could you answer this then @Mornusting ?

What other reason is there to support the Markles in this debacle? Are you aware that Thomas Markle doesn't see his other grandchildren, that Thomas Jnr is estranged from his own kids, and Samantha from her own kids?

Neither Thomas Jnr and Samantha talk to their own mother?

And yet there is constant bitching about how sad it is that the Markles don't see Meghan and Harry's children. There is constant whinging about how only Doria is in their lives.

So, pray tell, what is it that makes it a problem that the Markles are estranged from Meghan? What is it that makes it problematic that the kids are close to Doria, but not the Markles. What gives the Markles this entitlement to see Meghan's kids when they are estranged from their own?

If you can give me a plausible answer, I will believe that supporting the ghastly Markles is not about race.

I have no idea why some people support the Markle family but I cannot go further on this topic as it leads into dangerous territory.

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BadgerB · 09/09/2023 08:15

Before Meghan met and married Harry I understand her "Tig" constantly mentioned her "dear Daddy" how much he had done for her, and how much she loved him.
Obviously he just wasn't fit to meet her soon-to-be inlaws.

PrincessOfTigger · 09/09/2023 08:19

BadgerB · 09/09/2023 08:15

Before Meghan met and married Harry I understand her "Tig" constantly mentioned her "dear Daddy" how much he had done for her, and how much she loved him.
Obviously he just wasn't fit to meet her soon-to-be inlaws.

I do think it’s sad that Thomas and Meghan’s relationship, which seemed close once, has broken down. But her half-siblings… I don’t think they are any loss to her lmao

Maireas · 09/09/2023 08:23

I agree, @PrincessOfTigger - it's sad that it's broken down with Thomas sr. I'm not saying Meghan is wrong, but they were obviously once very close. I've also seen those posts on The Tig. A little gushing and cloying for my taste, but they seemed to show genuine love and affection for him, especially the father's day post.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 08:26

I have no idea why some people support the Markle family but I cannot go further on this topic as it leads into dangerous territory.

And yet you were quick to try and discredit MrsMax for asking the question of someone who was bemoaning the lack of relationship specifically with the Markles. Interesting.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/09/2023 08:26

Maireas · 09/09/2023 08:23

I agree, @PrincessOfTigger - it's sad that it's broken down with Thomas sr. I'm not saying Meghan is wrong, but they were obviously once very close. I've also seen those posts on The Tig. A little gushing and cloying for my taste, but they seemed to show genuine love and affection for him, especially the father's day post.

I also agree . The half siblings are no loss however I do find it sad that she has so ruthlessly cut off her father and other relatives. Let’s not forget that her Mum was the only member of her family at her wedding .

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 08:46

I do find it sad that she has so ruthlessly cut off her father and other relatives.

Which other relatives had she cut off?