What does Prince harry mean by this in his speech at the Wellchild Awards?

[Mornusting]

"As you also probably know, she would have been the first person to insist that I still come to be with you all instead of going to her."

He is referring to the Queen.

Is he saying this is why he is not at Balmoral with the rest of the RF? Is this what he means by "going to her"?

Really? so we've never had a problem with racism in the met police aside from that? They're the people who provide security to the royals. Imagine being her knowing this kind of thing was going on in the force while they supposedly are meant to protect her. Thank god they left.

They have severed contact with everyone including Megan’s family apart from Doria, leaving them with no extended family at all.

They have lots of extended family, Harry's mother's family are acknowledged warmly in his book, his two aunts attended Lili's christening. Charles Spencer came out forcefully defending him on Twitter a few weeks ago.

They seem close to Eugenie and Beatrice.

Meghan seems close to her niece Ashleigh.

Why should they entertain the three mad Markles who are spending hours and hours on YouTube channels that spread conspiracy theories saying the kids don't exist, that Meghan was a prostitute and Doria a convict? Why should they entertain Samantha who is suing Meghan for talking about the subjective experience of her own childhood, and Thomas Jnr who puts on blackface on YouTube and simulates Meghan and Harry having sex? Why should they entertain Thomas Snr who went on a blackmail rampage talking with Piers Morgan and Dan Wootton, two of the journalists who have tormented Meghan for years. Are you aware that Thomas Snr, Samantha and the Daily Mail were the three main sources in Tom Bower's malicious book?

When Thomas Snr received the infamous letter, from Meghan, not only did he sell it to the Mail on Sunday, he also responded by asking for a photo opportunity for the media.

On every thread on Mumsnet where family members do less than this, the advice is to go no contact. Why is it that you want Meghan to entertain people who are so actively malevolent towards her?

I genuinely don't get why there is such support for the Markles? Is it because they look like you, and Meghan doesn't?

I see another thread on MN having a go at Harry and Meghan.
It makes no difference that they are rarely in the press, the focus is all on them.
I guess the rest of the Royal family are too boring for you to talk about? Or too scandalous e.g. Andrew, so you avoid talking about him.

@MrsMaxDeWinter thank you, I am always so curious about posters who think its somehow a bad thing they don't have anything to do with the Markles given everything we know about them, as you've just written.

I actually don't think they will grow old together either, sadly, because theirs seems a very passionate relationship, based on not knowing each other very long, quickly having two children and enormous pressure from both sides of their family. However, that will not make them outliers in the Western world, or, indeed within the Royal Family, who, despite all their privileges find it difficult to keep marriages together, even to 'suitable' brides.
But, why should Meghan not have her children? And why should she not get maintenance from her husband to keep them in the manner they would expect? One of them is an American citizen and both of them have been brought up in California.
I don't think William and Kate will split up, no matter what, but if they did, I think the most pertinent issue would not be what some strangers on Social Media say, but what the Royal Family will do to Kate, in relation to access to her children, and the lengths they will go to to make William look like the wronged party. The Royals and the press at their behest will turn on her in an instant.

They are strangers. You have zero insight into their marriage. Many people visibly on love have long marriages.

Exactly. The woman cant even wear a coat or take her children to a July 4th celebration without endless articles about her. On any given day, despite her not being in public, about 5 articles can be written about absolutely nothing. Even if the nonsense that is written doesn't come true, its too late. The narrative is already out there. The press know exactly what they are doing in this regard.

weird posts wishing a marriage to fell.

That is true. I just think the pressure on them is enormous.

Isn't it the first anniversary of the Queens death today? How weird this board is still mostly talking about Harry and Meghan. Its almost as if the monarch is irrelevant.

‘Weird posts wishing a marriage to fail’ …yet again.

to be honest, he should just bugger off back to usa and stay there. neither him nor his wife are welcome here.

And all saying similar: as the parent of a child who has benefitted from WellChild and seen him speak and present awards and spend time with kids at two of the awards ceremonies, yes he is welcome here.

He has been really dedicated to this charity. He really connects with the children and families, sits and plays with children with complex special needs, talks with grace and confidence with families facing the loss of a child with a terminal illness.

To me, and many families like ours, he is welcome and with good reason,

Fine you don’t like him. So ignore him. Get on with your life. I fear spite driving him away from Wellchild and Invictus.

Good to hear from someone who actually knows what he does. Similar posts were present on the Invictus thread. He is being driven away from good works by people who are absolutely obsessed with him and his wife. They are easy to ignore.

@MopeAndGlory

Thank you so much for this. People forget Harry is a real person, who has made a real impact on the lives of some of the people, and especially children, that he has met.

Everything I have seen suggests that he is hundred per cent committed to WellChild, and has been for 15 years, just as he is committed to Sentebale and to Invictus, two of his life long projects.

No amount of spite or ill wishing will make him give up on what he cares about. That is why some of us admire and support him.

Maybe people should reflect on how lucky they are not to need the work of the charities he supports.

Other ‘celebs’ (including Children’s TV presenters etc) are present at these events but mostly they just pose for pics and do ‘tinkly laugh’ type engagement and back off fast. Harry sits on the floor with kids, leaves his ‘celeb’ seat to sit with families, really listens. He has done this for years, long before he met M. He attracts significant funds.

I think people’s sympathy for them went out the window with Spare - you cannot claim unfair media intrusion into your life then actually become the media and do the same to others to make a quick buck or $20million

@MopeAndGlory Thanks for sharing 💐 There are many stories from people who have met him with very good things to say about his commitment to the causes he supports.

I have seen Harry haters attack the charity Well held online because Harry does work with them.
How much sheer hate must be in your heart to do something so awful.

@LasLastchancechica there have been plenty of racist comments about meghan on MN.

thank you for sharing your story.

Just adding in a quick comment to mention that both children have both UK and US citizenship.

Children born to a UK parent who was born in the UK are (under most current conditions) automatically a UK citizen too.

One difference between Archie and Lili is that Lili is only a citizen ‘by descent’ as she was not born in the UK - which means she will not be able to pass her UK citizenship on to her own children unless she gives birth in the UK.

They are also both US citizens automatically through Meghan from birth.

To pass on US citizenship to their children they will need to live in the US for a certain number of years after the age of 14 or give birth in the US (currently anyone born in the US is automatically a citizen)

I have no idea. And they were happy enough with him as Patron when he started 15 years ago

I think some people really need to move on, obsessive hate like this is very damaging

I have never seen that, and would fully expect and hope the post would be deleted immediately, the poster banned and potentially the police to be informed. There is no place for racism on these boards or elsewhere.

He was complaining about incorrect narratives by the media and how he felt he was misrepresented in the press. He felt his book was to put the record straight. There is a difference between other people making up stories about you and you telling your own story. Harry's only mistake was thinking his family wanted to do anything differently. He lived within the Royal family for most of his life. He knows what goes on. He is allowed to talk about his own experiences.

Samcro · Today 14:44
weird posts wishing a marriage to fell.

As I made clear, I don't "wish" their marriage to fail - I just suspect it will. And it can't make the slightest difference to them what I think, or what any other poster on MN thinks.

Meghan will go on to achieve some success in Hollywood; Harry will be cast off - no brains, no talent. And, unless his family are super-forgiving, nowhere to go.