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What does Prince harry mean by this in his speech at the Wellchild Awards?

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Mornusting · 07/09/2023 20:35

"As you also probably know, she would have been the first person to insist that I still come to be with you all instead of going to her."

He is referring to the Queen.

Is he saying this is why he is not at Balmoral with the rest of the RF? Is this what he means by "going to her"?

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 12:33

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:21

You can't control that, though. If folks want to criticize them, let them. What does it matter? You haven't used the word hate, but it's used on here a damn lot. Have a discussion, as you do, maybe good points are made. Maybe not. Opinions vary.

and you can't control @Roussette or anyone else sharing their opinion on what they think about it. We can say we think its hateful, we can call it bashing too if we think it is. I think some of what is here on MN is hateful, bashing and I think it's harmful to spread negativity about the same people every day, for years. That is my opinion. I happen to think it is very bad for society to have millions of people focussed so negatively on a few famous people. I think its bad for the people they discuss, I think it's bad for the people doing it too because they're being negative and critical for a large part of their day and a lot of their opinions parrot what tabloids say, and I think they're bad for society too. I also do not believe that because people choose or want jobs and careers that rely on publicity, that it then must mean we invade their private lives in ways which they haven;t consented to, or that they need to withstand lies, harassment and ridicule 'because they asked for it' by being public in their work.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:33

I'm not controlling Roussette. What a bizarre suggestion...

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:34

Also, re famous folks and criticism.... I think that genie's out of the bottle.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 12:35

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:33

I'm not controlling Roussette. What a bizarre suggestion...

and she's not controlling anyone by posting her opinions either.

themessygarden · 09/09/2023 12:35

It is truly ironic, how some posters here continue , repeatedly, to bring and highlight disgusting extreme views from the depths of SM. What kind of SM are people going on to find this kind of stuff. Why bring it into mainstream? why bring it on to a parenting forum.

Most discussions that I see here on the RF MN are about things in mainstream media, with comments / debate about real social issues of racism, elitism, colourism, narcissism, marriages, family breakdowns etc, etc. Agree or disagree whatever your stance is, but being an echo chamber for stuff that most of us on here would never in a million years come across, just to prove a point, is beyond the pale.

Most of the posters here all agree that the Markle family are horrible and toxic, most of us agree that MM was subject to racism and colorism, but the extreme disgusting views on a small corner of SM is better off left were it started, in that dark area that the average population would never know about or even would not want to hear about.

I wish MM would delete all those posts with references to extremism of any sort.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:36

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 12:35

and she's not controlling anyone by posting her opinions either.

Never said she was. Read it.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 12:37

@themessygarden once agin, those things have appeared here, more than once nobody is going anywhere to 'prove a point'

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 12:37

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:36

Never said she was. Read it.

I used the same words you had, so....

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:41

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 12:37

I used the same words you had, so....

No.
I said "you can't control that" .
That. ie, what other people choose to engage with. Or post. No one can. Just ignore it if it rattles your chain, or engage if you want to. Whatever.

themessygarden · 09/09/2023 12:51

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 12:37

@themessygarden once agin, those things have appeared here, more than once nobody is going anywhere to 'prove a point'

Exactly my point.

I am sure I am not the only one who didn't even know MM had a brother, or a brother who runs a racist youtube channel, until I read about it on here on the RF forum, and it keeps getting thrown into conversations. It would be interesting to see how many subscribers he has, I suspect not many, but I wouldn't even attempt to look. The same with some stuff that PW was supposed to have done.

Just leave that crap where it started, no need to keep repeating it, it is not worthy of being brought into a mainstream conversation, no matter how loyal you feel about one side or the other.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 12:54

I agree, @themessygarden . Leave the worst kind of SM where it is.
I had no idea about that stuff either.

ArcaneWireless · 09/09/2023 13:10

Just leave that crap where it started, no need to keep repeating it, it is not worthy of being brought into a mainstream conversation, no matter how loyal you feel about one side or the other.

I too think this hateful nonsense doesn’t deserve the sunshine.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 13:12

@themessygarden

Are you saying we should talk only about the things that you know about, approve of or that don't make you uncomfortable?

If so, sorry, that's not going to happen.

You (and I mean general you) don't get to bleat about how I bring racism into everything, then, when I show the evidence of the racism, get all squeamish and say I should not bring it up because it's not very nice!

Roussette · 09/09/2023 13:14

"Just leave that crap where it started, no need to keep repeating it, it is not worthy of being brought into a mainstream conversation, no matter how loyal you feel about one side or the other*

How can it be left when posters talk about how sorry they are for Meghan's Dad and he is part of it?

Roussette · 09/09/2023 13:17

It is a bit Hyacinth Bouquet isn't it 😂🤣
Let's keep up appearances and not discuss the nasty bits even though her Dad is part of it all

Angrycat2768 · 09/09/2023 13:20

Maireas · 09/09/2023 11:26

I think you're right, @Angrycat2768 , but by the same token, Harry and Meghan need to be seen and written about. They pay a company to manage their profile. They want to make the news and get the clicks, because what else will help them to remain high profile? Many celebrities understand that deal with the press, it's important to keep yourself relevant.

That is çertainly true, but the tabloids dont have to oblige if they hate them so much. If Meghan is calling the paps to take pictures of her shopping or whatever, who is buying them? Is she also forcing the papers to print them? They buy these pictured because it's an easy way to manufacture outrage from.a non story, therefore creating a market.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 13:24

@Roussette

Very "Keeping Up Appearances"!! It's a way of minimising what Meghan has been put through, the better to bash her with anything going, including her ghastly family.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 13:28

You're right, @Angrycat2768 - but the tabloids don't hate them, I think they love them! So many clicks! So much interest. They literally generate income. I think it would be a negative for the tabloids if they went doggo.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 13:31

For some of the posters on here Meghan could be filmed cutting puppies' throats with a blunt knife - and her supporters would find a way to deem it a kind and generous action. Or that the puppies absolutely deserved it...

I think you are confusing Meghan with members of the royal family who enjoy killing animals for sport. @BadgerB As I recall, she was bashed pretty heavily here and in the tabloid media for "not allowing" Harry to go shooting.

So no, Meghan would not be filmed cutting puppies' throats with a blunt knife, and, consequently, there would be no need for any of us to defend her over it.

Angrycat2768 · 09/09/2023 13:35

Maireas · 09/09/2023 13:28

You're right, @Angrycat2768 - but the tabloids don't hate them, I think they love them! So many clicks! So much interest. They literally generate income. I think it would be a negative for the tabloids if they went doggo.

Absolutely! They have tons of cheap, easy content, then there are all the Royal Experts who have new found careers talking about them, commenting on what they think the Royals think of them, lipreading experts, psychologists, commentators galore. They are a little cottage industry all of their own. There were times where I suspected it was all a big scam, and Meghan and Harry were still working for the Royal Family. The minute Harry and Meghan go away, the press will start on one of the Royal inner circle. Harry and Meghan are a convenient distraction for them too.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 13:35

"Just leave that crap where it started, no need to keep repeating it, it is not worthy of being brought into a mainstream conversation, no matter how loyal you feel about one side or the other”

This all started with the claim that Meghan does not have a relationship with extended family as a reason to “objectively” criticise Meghan and for not inviting them her wedding. Many people have explained why and how with examples and evidence. Now it seems that issue is showing the evidence and that people should just allow posters to post any unsubstantiated accusation happily. This is not a standard for any other thread on MN.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 13:35

You're right, @Angrycat2768 about the paps. Of course they'll print!! Bread and butter.

Angrycat2768 · 09/09/2023 13:42

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 13:31

For some of the posters on here Meghan could be filmed cutting puppies' throats with a blunt knife - and her supporters would find a way to deem it a kind and generous action. Or that the puppies absolutely deserved it...

I think you are confusing Meghan with members of the royal family who enjoy killing animals for sport. @BadgerB As I recall, she was bashed pretty heavily here and in the tabloid media for "not allowing" Harry to go shooting.

So no, Meghan would not be filmed cutting puppies' throats with a blunt knife, and, consequently, there would be no need for any of us to defend her over it.

I can't think of a single thing she has done in the past 4 years that is even that bad. Harry published his book. He was the one who was slagging off his family. He was the one who argued with his father about Meghan being at Balmoral. He wad the one who took the tabloids to court. He was the one who told Meghan that someone had concerns about Archies skin colour, but it is Meghan that gets all the vitriol. For what? For wearing a coat in the summer? For going to a Beyonce concert? For taking her children to a parade? That is the issue. She has done nothing even close to even what Harry has done ( let alone to what other members of the RF have done) yet she is the evil genius trying to destroy the Royal Family and Britain? All his actions are excused because he must be under the control of an evil witch. Just like Edward viii wasn't really a selfish, spoilt nazi sympathiser and traitor. He was just under the control of an evil American divorced woman.

themessygarden · 09/09/2023 13:54

. Many people have explained why and how with examples and evidence. Now it seems that issue is showing the evidence and that people should just allow posters to post any unsubstantiated accusation happil.

There are plenty of examples of why she has cut off her family without trawling all corners of SM to repeat some obscure extreme offensive video that most people never come across and unlikely ever will, even worse that its being 'promoted' by those who support her and feel sympathy for what she has gone through.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 14:02

Right, you would prefer that it not be mentioned, so that you can deny it. Got it.